ASAT Posted October 12, 2016 #1 Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) So, I am posting this log as a result of seeing the build log of DocBlake's Fair American in which he posted a reference showing this kit in full rig done by Mike Lonnecker - http://www.thenrg.org/resources/59-3%20NRJ%20%20Building%20Fair%20American%201789.pdf My build was about 90% complete until I saw his model and now I want to fully rig mine as well. So I guess I am back to around 60 - 70% complete. I have really enjoyed building this kit, it was my first POF attempt and I not only had fun but I learned a lot about POF building and am pretty confident that I could apply the same techniques to another subject and be successful. After deciding to rig her I needed to find some resources so I tried asking in the plans section for a set of the Model Shipways plans as they include the masting and rigging in1/48 but I didn't get any response but I have since located a set of plans and am eagerly awaiting their arrival. Until then I still have to do some railings and install the head rails and pin racks, channels, deck furniture and complete the stern. Here are some pics of her current state of construction, pretty much out of the box except for the aft cabin deck detail that I did to try my hand at doing inlay work. Edited October 14, 2016 by ASAT Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/
Robin Lous Posted October 12, 2016 #2 Posted October 12, 2016 Looks amazing! Beautiful! Robin mrshanks 1 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
rafine Posted October 13, 2016 #3 Posted October 13, 2016 Looking very good Lou. I look forward to seeing your remaining work on the hull and the masting and rigging. Bob mrshanks 1 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
mrshanks Posted October 13, 2016 #4 Posted October 13, 2016 Fantastic Lou. I built the first LSS: AVS Patrick Henry (Dave's is the second and only other that I am aware of). I can't wait to see your Fair American in full rig!! Count me in to follow along on this voyage!! Quote Mike Shanks
donrobinson Posted October 13, 2016 #5 Posted October 13, 2016 Looking forward to watching this beauty grow further mrshanks 1 Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus
dvm27 Posted October 13, 2016 #6 Posted October 13, 2016 Beautiful job, Lou. The marquetry is exceptional. The continuation of the deck planking aft up the face of the quarterdeck partition looks a bit unusual to me. Were you going to place a strip of molding at the transition? In addition to Doc Blake's exceptional model, perhaps this one from the American Marine Model Gallery will further inspire and provide a few rigging hints: http://www.shipmodel.com/files/fair-american-full-hull-webfair-american003.jpg mrshanks and Ryland Craze 2 Quote GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752
ASAT Posted October 13, 2016 Author #7 Posted October 13, 2016 Robin, Mike and Don,Thanks for the kind words and likes - Mike, do you have a log or pics of your AVS? Special thanks to you Bob, your MS Fair American was a big part of the inspiration to fully rig mine, when I was researching MSW examples of completed models. Compliments from the likes of you and Greg inspire confidence, I know you guys have a discerning eye and an abundance of talent! Greg, that continuation puzzled me as well, I know there should be a panel bulkhead there and I was going to attempt a frame outline of sorts but that panel is also the aft mount for the ships wheel so it might need to be flush. Since the rest of that bulkhead will be missing to leave that area open to the cabin area I think mr. Hunt just simplified the mounting area. It is mostly hidden after the wheel is installed but I am open to any suggestions for improvement. Thanks for that link to that beautiful FA! There are more than a few rigging hints, I like the ships boat and I have not decided whether or not to do the quarterdeck railing more realistically, the LSS version is just a straight top rail, no curved framing or gunport? framing..... Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/
mrshanks Posted October 13, 2016 #8 Posted October 13, 2016 Hi Lou. I did my AVS build log over at the LSS forum. But I did post the completed pictures here: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/gallery/album/1235-132-lauck-street-shipyard-avs-by-mike-shanks/ I built mine exactly like Bob's prototype. Dave did a fantastic job with wood substitution and additional details on his. Enjoy! Quote Mike Shanks
ASAT Posted October 13, 2016 Author #9 Posted October 13, 2016 Well I redid the planking on the quarterdeck bulkhead transition area, I thought Greg was right, just did not look correct to continue the deck planking there - I like it much better, thanks for the input!! Here is a front and rear view.... Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/
DocBlake Posted October 14, 2016 #10 Posted October 14, 2016 Beautiful, Lou! Outstanding work. I'm very impressed with th marquetry on the great cabin floor. Looks fabulous! I'll be following your log. mrshanks 1 Quote Dave Click on images in posts to view them in full resolution! Click on the builds below and link to the log. Current Builds: -Gaff-Rigged Sloop, 1/4 Scale (3" = 1') -Chapman Water Hoy 1768 by DocBlake - Scratch Build - 1:48 scale -Hannah - 1:32 scale, Scratch-Built Plank-on-Frame Admiralty style -Generic Sharpie by DocBlake. 3/4" = 1' scale. NRG plans. -Fair American 1780 by DocBlake - Lauck Street Shipyard - 1/48 scale - POF -Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale -HMS Triton Cross Section by DocBlake - 1/24 scale Completed Builds: -Bomb Vessel Granado 1742 Cross Section - 1:32 Scale Scratch Build -British Capstan circa 1777 by DocBlake - FINISHED - 1:16 Scale -HMS Blandford - Cross Section - Scratch Build -1/32 Scale -17th Century Battle Station by DocBlake - HMS Mordaunt - 1:32 -17th Century Naval Cannon - 1:12 Scale -Royal Navy Ship of the Line Cross Section by DocBlake - (Mamoli's "Constitution") - 1:93 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768, 1/48 scale. -Virginia Pilot Boat "Swift", 1805, 1/50 scale -18th Century Naval Battle Station, 1/24 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768 "Patrick Henry", 1/32 scale, Lauck Street Shipyard, POF, Admiralty Style.
ASAT Posted October 18, 2016 Author #11 Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) Made the quarterdeck railings today, the supplied stanchions were only 5/16" and with the amount that they are recessed into the railings there was only about a 3/16" height difference between the top rail and the upper rail so I made some some 5/8" stanchions and that raised the railing to 3/8" which looks closer to the MS plans and at least gives some realistic fall protection to a sailor on the quarterdeck.... I also did not like the end grain of the walnut stanchions poking through the railing so I "capped" the upper rail with some bubinga stripwood that I had in my stash, also the top railings in this kit just "end" and the other renditions I have seen have a angled piece going forward and ends in some scrollwork - I did the angle but I am hoping that one of you can point me to the best way to make that scrolled end piece - don't have permission from anyone to post their pic of it but maybe look at rafine's ms FA and you will see what I mean... Anyway here is some pics..... Edited October 18, 2016 by ASAT Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/
GuntherMT Posted October 18, 2016 #12 Posted October 18, 2016 I saw Mike Lonnecker's FA at the NRG conference (actually, helped carry it to the display room from the parking garage), and it's a fantastic model when fully rigged. I think you'll love it when you are done and not regret making this decision, Lou. Ryland Craze and mrshanks 2 Quote Brian Mystery project coming soon! Current build - Medway Longboat Complete - Armed Virginia Sloop Complete - Carmen (First Build)
ASAT Posted October 18, 2016 Author #13 Posted October 18, 2016 Brian, I know.... It was like a epihiny when I saw his model, just sets it "that much" above and beyond the stock kit.... Hope I can execute it like I envision it..... Lou Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/
Nirvana Posted October 18, 2016 #14 Posted October 18, 2016 Lou, Outstanding craftsmanship! Very nicely done. mrshanks and mtaylor 2 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry
DocBlake Posted October 18, 2016 #15 Posted October 18, 2016 The railings look great, Lou! Looking forward to the rigging! mrshanks 1 Quote Dave Click on images in posts to view them in full resolution! Click on the builds below and link to the log. Current Builds: -Gaff-Rigged Sloop, 1/4 Scale (3" = 1') -Chapman Water Hoy 1768 by DocBlake - Scratch Build - 1:48 scale -Hannah - 1:32 scale, Scratch-Built Plank-on-Frame Admiralty style -Generic Sharpie by DocBlake. 3/4" = 1' scale. NRG plans. -Fair American 1780 by DocBlake - Lauck Street Shipyard - 1/48 scale - POF -Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale -HMS Triton Cross Section by DocBlake - 1/24 scale Completed Builds: -Bomb Vessel Granado 1742 Cross Section - 1:32 Scale Scratch Build -British Capstan circa 1777 by DocBlake - FINISHED - 1:16 Scale -HMS Blandford - Cross Section - Scratch Build -1/32 Scale -17th Century Battle Station by DocBlake - HMS Mordaunt - 1:32 -17th Century Naval Cannon - 1:12 Scale -Royal Navy Ship of the Line Cross Section by DocBlake - (Mamoli's "Constitution") - 1:93 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768, 1/48 scale. -Virginia Pilot Boat "Swift", 1805, 1/50 scale -18th Century Naval Battle Station, 1/24 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768 "Patrick Henry", 1/32 scale, Lauck Street Shipyard, POF, Admiralty Style.
ASAT Posted October 18, 2016 Author #16 Posted October 18, 2016 Thanks every one for looking in, and for the likes! Lou Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/
glbarlow Posted January 24, 2020 #17 Posted January 24, 2020 I see you also had fun, more than I did, with the “Captains Quarters.” Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose
ASAT Posted February 15, 2020 Author #18 Posted February 15, 2020 Hey Glenn! I just saw this post, yes indeed, I was inspired by your cool deck and had a bunch of nice woods..... Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/
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