Sjors Posted January 13, 2014 #361 Posted January 13, 2014 Nice job Larry, And that for the first time.... I see in the future a bigger model with a few more planking Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
augie Posted January 13, 2014 #362 Posted January 13, 2014 Nice job on the planking Larry. Get her sanded then step back and admire what you've accomplished. You should be proud.....and I'm smiling over here. Good idea on the epoxy. Tightens everything up. I'll bet she feels like a Louisville Slugger by now! WELL DONE Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
lb0190 Posted January 13, 2014 Author #363 Posted January 13, 2014 Thanks Popeye, Sjors and Augie! I thought I would never get it done. I'm still thinking of the Wappen von Hamburg for a future build and it's certainly a bigger model, but it's many months in the future. I'm currently sanding the hull, and starting to realize getting every high and low spot out may not happen without the possibility of sanding in a flat spot. Using filler does not appeal to me, so I'll get it to a point where I believe it's acceptable and see how it looks with paint. popeye the sailor 1 Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges
kenr Posted January 13, 2014 #364 Posted January 13, 2014 Hi Larry Good work and a good idea about a coat of paint I use a flat white undercoat first. That tends to show up any highs and lows Regards Ken Quote Under construction US Brig Niagara Completed HMB Endeavour - Caldercraft
lb0190 Posted January 13, 2014 Author #365 Posted January 13, 2014 Hi Ken, Thanks for looking in. I was debating on first applying white primer. I'll probably procrastinate over the decision for days... Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges
lb0190 Posted January 15, 2014 Author #366 Posted January 15, 2014 Quick update... I've been busy filing the gunports and sweep ports to the final size. I did not realize how much I left them undersized until I started filing, and filing and filing. Ten gunports are completed as well as all of the sweep ports. I also applied some Hobby Light filler in a couple of places on the hull that had a small void. When I needed a break from filing, I took some scrap planking and glued it together as a paint test board. I was wondering if the primer made much difference in how the paint looked. Immediately I discovered a lack of primer resulted in the glue smears standing out very plainly, leaving a blotchy look. A very light coat of primer made the paint very consistent. I'll also use this scrap piece to experiment with Wipe On Poly, the sealer purchased from Model Expo and Dull Coat. During another filing break, I cut some stock paper (10 mils thick) to see how it would look as the side butt boards for the sweep ports. Overall the card stock looked right, so I'll use that material if I can do a decent enough job getting them cut to the correct size, aligned correctly and painted - they are very small. Hopefully I'll finish up filing the remaining gunports in a day or two and get back to sanding the hull. SkerryAmp, augie and edmay 3 Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges
kenr Posted January 15, 2014 #367 Posted January 15, 2014 Hi Larry I am pleased the primer idea worked for you Regards Ken lb0190 1 Quote Under construction US Brig Niagara Completed HMB Endeavour - Caldercraft
lb0190 Posted January 19, 2014 Author #368 Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) Model ship building has taken a small delay in construction due to visitors and family, but I want to share something that I seen come up for sale at an excellent price. I follow Augies excellent build of the US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 and like many enjoy his craftsmanship as well as his friendship. A short while ago he mentioned how he likes a microsander sold by Micromark and it looked like an excellent tool for sanding difficult places. Once I seen it, I had to have one but I hate to pay retail or normally advertised prices for anything, so I've been waiting for this item to go on sale. This week Micro-Mark has their power tools on sale which includes the micro-sander (mine is on order) The price that has been advertised lately was $92.65 USD, but this week it's $69.95. Here is the web page link for their sale, http://link.micromark.com/YesConnect/HtmlMessagePreview?a=hC-QgesCZVEcAYGjbwhQdS Edited July 15, 2014 by lb0190 Sjors and SkerryAmp 2 Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges
augie Posted January 19, 2014 #369 Posted January 19, 2014 Don't forget to send my royalty check to my home address , Seriously, I think you'll find more use for it then you expect. edmay and riverboat 2 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
lb0190 Posted January 19, 2014 Author #370 Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) Good moring Augie! I hope your having a good weekend. Your check is in the mail... I have a few sanding areas on my Niagara that are very tight and I've been holding off on working them until the tool shows up. Edited January 19, 2014 by lb0190 augie, popeye the sailor and edmay 3 Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges
scott larkins Posted February 14, 2014 #371 Posted February 14, 2014 Nice work so far. Can't wait to see how she comes out when she's painted. Quote
lb0190 Posted February 14, 2014 Author #372 Posted February 14, 2014 Thanks Scott. I'm taking a short break but occasionally sand on her when it's not too cold in the garage. Hopefully the weather will turner warmer soon and I can resume the build. augie 1 Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges
aliluke Posted February 15, 2014 #373 Posted February 15, 2014 Hi Larry Must of missed some of your earlier posts. Nice work on the planking! It must be a good feeling to get past that. The meanest are those that turn from the upswing to the counter and then down to the stern post. You look to have that well sorted out. Good to see you back at it. Florida, cold? Have I got my view of the planet wrong? Isn't yours the State that the northerners rush to in winter to escape the cold? Put on a thick jersey and get going . Cheers Alistair Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - On Hold - HMS Fly by aliluke - Amati/Victory Models - 1/64 Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log)
lb0190 Posted February 15, 2014 Author #374 Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) Hi Alistair, Thanks for the compliment and for looking in. Yes, it's much warmer here than many places (including home), but after getting used to the warmth it dos not take much of a temperature drop to get me shivering... Anything under 65F feels cold to my old bones. I'm glad the hull planking is complete. It cleaned up decent with some sanding and now if can only get the gun and sweep ports to their final size, I can start painting. Edited February 15, 2014 by lb0190 Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges
Don Quixote Posted July 12, 2014 #375 Posted July 12, 2014 Thanks for the log! But um... A lot of pictures are missing I'm working on the Niagara as well, but I bit it off as my first ship. Seemed like a good idea at the time. You name it, I've made it. Outta plastic. This is an entirely different world! Loving it though. Quote Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 Scale. 2nd boat in the learning series. In Dry Dock: Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack. 1:24 scale. Model Shipways, 3rd in the learning series. Not sure what'll be next, probably the Santa Maria by Artesania Latina 1:65 scale. Unless someone has a better suggestion for a beginner. Pride of Baltimore. Model Shipways. Clipper used in the war of 1812. Black Falcon. Mantua Model. 18 century corsair brig. CSS. Alabama. E. Manolie? Can't read the font. Build in Liverpool in 1862 for use in the American Civil War by the Confederates. Steam and sail, sloop of war. Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. A baseball cap my Dad wore.
lb0190 Posted July 15, 2014 Author #376 Posted July 15, 2014 Thanks for the log! But um... A lot of pictures are missing I'm working on the Niagara as well, but I bit it off as my first ship. Seemed like a good idea at the time. You name it, I've made it. Outta plastic. This is an entirely different world! Loving it though. Welcome to the Niagara club! Thanks for the heads up regarding the missing pictures. I've been away for a while and was not aware there was a problem. I have no idea what caused the issue but I re-posted them today. Good luck with your build, I'm sure your ship will look amazing. Don Quixote 1 Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges
lb0190 Posted July 15, 2014 Author #377 Posted July 15, 2014 (edited) I'mmmmmm Baaaack! It's been a while since I've posted anything or worked on my Niagara. Lots of family issues and health problems just kept getting in the way so I simply put my ship on hold. I've started once again... Since my last post I've completed the following items. Added topmost plank on both port and starboard sides. Finished shaping and squaring up gun ports and sweep ports Touched up a lot of interior paint damage Started working on the deck planking In regard to the deck planking I decided to use a 50% diluted golden oak stain with pencil shading on one side to simulate deck caulking. I have the port nib strake (plank?) installed and decided not to notch it due to the small size, thinking it will look better unnotched as compared to what could easily be a sloppy looking outcome. Likewise, I also decided to run full length deck planks and not taper them. I kinda like this look better due to the deck being so busy and also due to the lack of a false deck which could have resulted in resulted in a rough looking deck. I hope everyone is healthy and doing well. With a little luck I'll pick up some steam get some model ship building accomplished on a more regular timeframe. Edit: I forgot to mention, the two "X" spots on the deck is where I need to cut out the mast location holes. Edited July 15, 2014 by lb0190 egkb, edmay, WackoWolf and 4 others 7 Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges
augie Posted July 15, 2014 #378 Posted July 15, 2014 It's good to have you 'home' Larry. Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
Sjors Posted July 15, 2014 #379 Posted July 15, 2014 Welcome home Larry, You've be missed !!!!!!! But what you have done looks good to me Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
lb0190 Posted July 15, 2014 Author #380 Posted July 15, 2014 Hi Augie & Sjors, Thanks for the warm welcome back! Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges
Don Quixote Posted July 15, 2014 #381 Posted July 15, 2014 I have no idea what caused the issue but I re-posted them today. Thanks. They're a huge help:) The folks that run this system had a corrupt drive that hosts our pics. They did a great job retrieving what they were able to. And thanks for the Welcome. I have a niece in up state New York that is Federal Port Authority and she saw the brig last summer in Buffalo and told me about it because she new I have long been fascinated by that war. (We should have let the Brits keep Detroit.) Born and raised in Grand Rapids, Michigan, I'm probably one of a handful that can name all the lakes. Much less tell you where each one is. Anyway, we're "planning" to fly to Grand Rapids, Michigan, from our current home in California in September to see family. From there we'll rent a car and drive along as much of the St. Lawrence in Canada as we can, stop and see the falls for the thousandth time, - Never see them from the U.S. side. What an arm pit - see my niece in Ogdensburg, about as up state New York as you can get, then drive the U.S. side back. They have tours scheduled until late September on the Niagara. I "THINK" you can help sail her in the summer. I know students can. Incidentally, the boys and I once camped along the St. Lawrence next to the locks. BIG mistake. 5 am, the ships blast their horns. I swear they do it to antagonize idiots in tents. I love up state Michigan. Lot's 'o Vineyards. Quote Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 Scale. 2nd boat in the learning series. In Dry Dock: Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack. 1:24 scale. Model Shipways, 3rd in the learning series. Not sure what'll be next, probably the Santa Maria by Artesania Latina 1:65 scale. Unless someone has a better suggestion for a beginner. Pride of Baltimore. Model Shipways. Clipper used in the war of 1812. Black Falcon. Mantua Model. 18 century corsair brig. CSS. Alabama. E. Manolie? Can't read the font. Build in Liverpool in 1862 for use in the American Civil War by the Confederates. Steam and sail, sloop of war. Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. A baseball cap my Dad wore.
Don Quixote Posted July 15, 2014 #382 Posted July 15, 2014 Hi, Larry, I'm going to plank the deck before the hull, just for the experience. Deck is more crowded and will hide mistakes I expect to make in my learning curve. Having said that, I see (or at least I understand from what I'm looking at) from the plans regarding the bit holes for the fife rails, that I can do some framing, or I can use dowels. Not at all sure what that means. My interpretation: Leaving the framing off, I can put a small dowel in the center of the bottom of the rail posts, drill a hole of the same size through the deck, and rely on that tiny bit of glue to hold the posts (bit?) in place, OR I can build a frame to fit around the post itself and make the post long enough to fit into the framing through the deck. Which sounds sturdier. Or should I go smoke crack? Brian Quote Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 Scale. 2nd boat in the learning series. In Dry Dock: Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack. 1:24 scale. Model Shipways, 3rd in the learning series. Not sure what'll be next, probably the Santa Maria by Artesania Latina 1:65 scale. Unless someone has a better suggestion for a beginner. Pride of Baltimore. Model Shipways. Clipper used in the war of 1812. Black Falcon. Mantua Model. 18 century corsair brig. CSS. Alabama. E. Manolie? Can't read the font. Build in Liverpool in 1862 for use in the American Civil War by the Confederates. Steam and sail, sloop of war. Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. A baseball cap my Dad wore.
lb0190 Posted July 16, 2014 Author #383 Posted July 16, 2014 Hi Brian, I decided to take care of the hull first so I still had access to the inside allowing me to coat the interior with epoxy which increased the strength a great deal. At this point, I'm thinking of gluing structures to the deck surface and pin where it makes sense. I may change my mind once I get to that point but for now it's pin and glue. I'm glad the photos helped.... Larry Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges
Don Quixote Posted July 16, 2014 #384 Posted July 16, 2014 I know I read in here a discussion on epoxy, but If you'd reiterate what you'll use, I appreciate it. Good timing. I'd have started the deck this evening. What about diluting wood glue with water? Hm... Epoxy is still holding the handle to open the gate on my truck so I can open it. Thanks! Quote Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 Scale. 2nd boat in the learning series. In Dry Dock: Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack. 1:24 scale. Model Shipways, 3rd in the learning series. Not sure what'll be next, probably the Santa Maria by Artesania Latina 1:65 scale. Unless someone has a better suggestion for a beginner. Pride of Baltimore. Model Shipways. Clipper used in the war of 1812. Black Falcon. Mantua Model. 18 century corsair brig. CSS. Alabama. E. Manolie? Can't read the font. Build in Liverpool in 1862 for use in the American Civil War by the Confederates. Steam and sail, sloop of war. Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. A baseball cap my Dad wore.
gerty Posted July 16, 2014 #385 Posted July 16, 2014 Nice work ! Quote Current Build: Willie L. Bennett - Model Shipways Future Interests: Friendship Sloop - BlueJacket Ship Crafters Cape Cod Catboat - BlueJacket Ship Crafters
scott larkins Posted July 17, 2014 #386 Posted July 17, 2014 Larry, what color paints did you use on the bulkheads and what brand? I'll be starting my own Niagara next year and I'd like to have some ideas. Quote
lb0190 Posted July 17, 2014 Author #387 Posted July 17, 2014 I know I read in here a discussion on epoxy, but If you'd reiterate what you'll use, I appreciate it. Good timing. I'd have started the deck this evening. What about diluting wood glue with water? Hm... Epoxy is still holding the handle to open the gate on my truck so I can open it. Thanks! I use z-poxy finishing resin primarily due to having some left over from another build. It is two part, brushes on very well and is sold at many places including Amazon. I've also used diluted Titebond (white wood glue). I diluted it enough to where it will brush on easily. Both work fine but IMO the epoxy is stronger, Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges
lb0190 Posted July 17, 2014 Author #388 Posted July 17, 2014 Hi Gerty, thanks for looking in and for the compliment. Hi Scott, the paints I used are from Model Expo, which they have made to their specifications http://www.modelexpo-online.com/ I used the colors they suggested for the Niagara which are identified on their web site. Model Expo says their paints are a replica of the paint colors used on the ship, I believe from the first build but I'm pulling that from memory which is getting shorter every day If you decide to buy their paints and are not in a hurry, they can be purchased at 1/2 off from time to time. The main thing to remember about Model Expo is they have huge sale discounts on practically everything - jst sign up for the e-mail notices. augie 1 Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges
augie Posted July 17, 2014 #389 Posted July 17, 2014 I'm with Larry on this. MS paints work for me. I usually dilute them quite a bit and use many thin, rather than just a few thick, coats. They usually do not give much of a 'shine' (which I hate on a ship model). If they do, a quick coat of Testor's Clear Acrylic Lacquer (Dullcoat) solves that issue. Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
Don Quixote Posted July 17, 2014 #390 Posted July 17, 2014 That was it. Z-poxy. I think I'll use that because I suspect the hull will need some sanding and being so thin, there's little to back stop it. I call this ship a bach ship. As I go and when I'm done I'm getting a million pictures. Then I'm going to bash it and toss it in the trash. Just a learning experience. 900 thousand things not to do ever again, and counting. Brian Quote Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 Scale. 2nd boat in the learning series. In Dry Dock: Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack. 1:24 scale. Model Shipways, 3rd in the learning series. Not sure what'll be next, probably the Santa Maria by Artesania Latina 1:65 scale. Unless someone has a better suggestion for a beginner. Pride of Baltimore. Model Shipways. Clipper used in the war of 1812. Black Falcon. Mantua Model. 18 century corsair brig. CSS. Alabama. E. Manolie? Can't read the font. Build in Liverpool in 1862 for use in the American Civil War by the Confederates. Steam and sail, sloop of war. Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. A baseball cap my Dad wore.
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