popeye the sailor Posted December 23, 2013 Share #331 Posted December 23, 2013 (edited) I as will Larry..........happy holidays to you ! looks forward to the update! Edited December 23, 2013 by popeye the sailor Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lb0190 Posted December 23, 2013 Author Share #332 Posted December 23, 2013 (edited) It's been a while since I've provided an update. Travel, life in general and family have kept me busier than normal but it's starting to calm down enough to let me get back to the shop and my friends at MSW. My plans were to hold off on doing so until the hull planking was complete, but there's enough progress to show some pictures and point out areas that were more difficult than the normally difficult parts... Before I start, my previously posts indicated I was working on the port side, well. I may have had one or two too many holiday spirits, I actually have been laying planks on the starboard side... Looking at the first picture you will see where I was attempting to make a piece of wood for the stem area. I wanted to remove the downward curve in the aft planks in effort to get a run that is more straight. I probably made 3-4 pieces before I could get it close enough to glue in place. I kept breaking the wood or just did not het the shape right. Finally I had a brain storm and decided to make a prototype using heavy stock paper. Once I had the paper shape close, I traced it on the wood and file it to fit from there. The remaining pictures show the starboard side planked, minus the sanding. I have a few spots that looked low enough that I applied some Hobby-Lite filler. Hopefully the remaining high/low spots sill sand out – there are also a lot of pencil marks that I hope the sanding will remove. I tried a pencil eraser on some of them but for some reason would not come off. Next steps Finish planking the port side Sand hull Start working on that long list of “I need to touch that up” items start deck planing Edited July 15, 2014 by lb0190 riverboat, edmay, ScottRC and 5 others 8 Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted December 23, 2013 Share #333 Posted December 23, 2013 that's some sweet looking planking Larry! no matter what side it is, it's definitely a big step! really looks as though you've put some thought into it lb0190 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted December 23, 2013 Share #334 Posted December 23, 2013 Welcome back to the bench Larry. I gotta say...that is one heck of a piece! Talk about compound curves. She's looking good. For a while there, 'Club Niagara' was pretty quiet. Good to have you back. MERRY CHRISTMAS! lb0190 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliluke Posted December 24, 2013 Share #335 Posted December 24, 2013 Well you made it and well done mate - it's a bugger that a ship has two sides . Port, starboard or whatever. Have a good Christmas and I look forward to your new year updates. Cheers Alistair lb0190 1 Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lb0190 Posted December 24, 2013 Author Share #336 Posted December 24, 2013 Thanks Alistair. I hope the holidays go well for you. Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted December 24, 2013 Share #337 Posted December 24, 2013 Hi my favourite Indian ! Great planking job. Glad that you found your way back to the ship yard. Next time don't stay away that long ! Or I will send the Cavalry A little sanding and filling and a coat of varnish ? lb0190 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor1234567890 Posted December 26, 2013 Share #338 Posted December 26, 2013 Still looking good. Keep us posted. lb0190 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lb0190 Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share #339 Posted December 27, 2013 Thanks guys! Still adding hull planks when time permits... Yes a little (I hope) sanding, some paint then a coat of wip-on-poly to protect the paint. I may end up spraying on some dull coat if needed. I still have a lot of detail work to do before even considering hull paint; Verify/set proper height of gunports - I believe they are a little short right now Set proper width of sweep ports - I believe they are a little too narrow Square up gun port and sweep port corners Make and install butt strips for gun/sweep ports Make and install top outside bulwark rail Sjors, popeye the sailor and augie 3 Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted December 28, 2013 Share #340 Posted December 28, 2013 That's a long list Larry ! Pictures please ! Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texxn5 Posted December 28, 2013 Share #341 Posted December 28, 2013 The planking turned out nice Larry. This will certainly come in handy when I build my Niagra after finishing the Morgan. Looks like some tricky curves for this lady... lb0190 1 Quote John Current Current Builds: US Brig Niagara on my website FINISHED BUILD LOGS: New Bedford Whaleboat - page on my Morgan Website: http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com/whaleboat-build-log-by-john-fleming.html C.W. Morgan - Model Shipways 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1785-cw-morgan-by-texxn5-johnf-ms-164-kit/ USS Constitution - Revell 1:96 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1796-uss-constitution-by-texxn5-johnf-revell-196-kit/ website US Brig Niagara Model http://www.niagaramodel.com website Charles W Morgan Model http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com website PROXXON DISCOUNT TOOL STORE http://proxxontoolsdiscount.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lb0190 Posted December 28, 2013 Author Share #342 Posted December 28, 2013 Hi Sjors & John, Thanks for looking in. I suspect making the butt strips will be the most time consuming part. I may end up using card stock for the sweeport strips, I'll have to wait and see how it looks. Yes, the curves are a challenge but it gives the ship interesting lines. John, make sure you verify with your plans before you copy anything from my build... :D popeye the sailor 1 Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texxn5 Posted December 29, 2013 Share #343 Posted December 29, 2013 No problem Larry, It's nice to see a progressive approach to verify thoughts or ideas as to how to proceed or how something is supposed to look. It's going to be quite a while before I finish the Morgan, especially once I start rigging. I won't start on a Niagra until the Morgan is complete. I enjoy following your build as I know I'll be in the same spot someday. lb0190 1 Quote John Current Current Builds: US Brig Niagara on my website FINISHED BUILD LOGS: New Bedford Whaleboat - page on my Morgan Website: http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com/whaleboat-build-log-by-john-fleming.html C.W. Morgan - Model Shipways 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1785-cw-morgan-by-texxn5-johnf-ms-164-kit/ USS Constitution - Revell 1:96 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1796-uss-constitution-by-texxn5-johnf-revell-196-kit/ website US Brig Niagara Model http://www.niagaramodel.com website Charles W Morgan Model http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com website PROXXON DISCOUNT TOOL STORE http://proxxontoolsdiscount.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveGrady1 Posted December 29, 2013 Share #344 Posted December 29, 2013 Larry Very impressed with the build so far. I just received the Niagara as a Xmas present and am looking forward to the build. I will be following your posts to try and pick up more tips on the build. Have learned very much already. I am currently building the MS Bluenose and I am at the building masts and rigging stage. Very daunting task !! Dave lb0190 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lb0190 Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share #345 Posted December 29, 2013 (edited) Hi Dave, Welcome aboard and thanks for the compliment! The Niagara is a great model ship to build and has a strong national history. It is a challenging build for me due to my limited experience but I believe anyone with a little experience and a fair amount of patience can complete the build and end up with a nice display. Edited December 29, 2013 by lb0190 DaveGrady1 1 Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatgalleons Posted December 29, 2013 Share #346 Posted December 29, 2013 Hey there Larry , your build is coming along nicely, It's so much more difficult to plank the hull in belts as suggested in the instructions, looks great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lb0190 Posted December 30, 2013 Author Share #347 Posted December 30, 2013 Hey there Larry , your build is coming along nicely, It's so much more difficult to plank the hull in belts as suggested in the instructions, looks great! Thank you for looking in. I've been following your build also and I'm impressed as well as amazed at how fast your build is moving, with excellent workmanship. Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatgalleons Posted December 30, 2013 Share #348 Posted December 30, 2013 (edited) Yes I guess I do work a bit faster than most. Some years I could get up to eight builds done, I've slowed down a bit and have decided to hold off on the rigging on the Niagara for a while. I'll finish it later on in the new year. Edited December 30, 2013 by greatgalleons lb0190 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmay Posted December 30, 2013 Share #349 Posted December 30, 2013 Hello Larry,nice planking,Wishing you and your family a joyous Christmas season,and good health for the new year.Edwin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lb0190 Posted December 30, 2013 Author Share #350 Posted December 30, 2013 Hello Edwin! Thank you and I hope the holidays have been good to you and yours! Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickmil Posted December 30, 2013 Share #351 Posted December 30, 2013 Hey Larry, I hope the holidays were good to you and your family. Your Niagara is looking great and I am impressed by the very clean lines of your planking. Quote Thanks, Patrick YouTube Channel for fun: Patrick's Scale Studio Finished: Model Shipways US Brig Niagara Current: I Love Kit USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 "Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday" - John Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerty Posted December 30, 2013 Share #352 Posted December 30, 2013 Nice job Larry ! Quote Current Build: Willie L. Bennett - Model Shipways Future Interests: Friendship Sloop - BlueJacket Ship Crafters Cape Cod Catboat - BlueJacket Ship Crafters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lb0190 Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share #353 Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) Thanks Patrick and Gerty (sorry about the late reply). Happy New Year everyone. I'm down to lacking only two planks to finish the hull. Once the glue dries, on the plank I just installed, I'll start on the final two. I cannot believe it's been a little over six months to plank this hull. This effort was one of those "it hurt so good" kinda tasks If mistakes makes one better at something, I should be an expert by now. Pictures are coming, hopefully tonight or no later than tomorrow. Take care everyone. Edited January 12, 2014 by lb0190 egkb and augie 2 Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texxn5 Posted January 12, 2014 Share #354 Posted January 12, 2014 Great Larry, good to see you back.....looking forward to pictures... Quote John Current Current Builds: US Brig Niagara on my website FINISHED BUILD LOGS: New Bedford Whaleboat - page on my Morgan Website: http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com/whaleboat-build-log-by-john-fleming.html C.W. Morgan - Model Shipways 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1785-cw-morgan-by-texxn5-johnf-ms-164-kit/ USS Constitution - Revell 1:96 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1796-uss-constitution-by-texxn5-johnf-revell-196-kit/ website US Brig Niagara Model http://www.niagaramodel.com website Charles W Morgan Model http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com website PROXXON DISCOUNT TOOL STORE http://proxxontoolsdiscount.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lb0190 Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share #355 Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) Thanks John! The last two planks went on much quicker than anticipated. Next is an epoxy coat on the inside of the planks. I know it's not really needed, but since it's single planked, I feel more at ease sanding on the hull with the epoxy adding some strength to the assembly. After sanding, I'll start working on some of the details I left for later, yes... putting odds and ends off have finally caught up with me. Gun,sweep ports need sanded to final deminsion, end planks need to be made and installed on gun/sweep ports and after that I believe it's time to do some painting. Edited July 15, 2014 by lb0190 realworkingsailor, popeye the sailor, edmay and 5 others 8 Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texxn5 Posted January 12, 2014 Share #356 Posted January 12, 2014 Looks great Larry, congrats on a job well done......nice big milestone to celebrate....here's bendin an elbow to ya.. Quote John Current Current Builds: US Brig Niagara on my website FINISHED BUILD LOGS: New Bedford Whaleboat - page on my Morgan Website: http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com/whaleboat-build-log-by-john-fleming.html C.W. Morgan - Model Shipways 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1785-cw-morgan-by-texxn5-johnf-ms-164-kit/ USS Constitution - Revell 1:96 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1796-uss-constitution-by-texxn5-johnf-revell-196-kit/ website US Brig Niagara Model http://www.niagaramodel.com website Charles W Morgan Model http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com website PROXXON DISCOUNT TOOL STORE http://proxxontoolsdiscount.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lb0190 Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share #357 Posted January 12, 2014 Thanks John. With it being my first planking, I'm OK with how it turned out. I'm anxious to get started onthe deck planking but it will be a week or two before I get started on that. I just finished coating the inside of the hull with two part epoxy. It added some weight to the ship and hopefully some strength. texxn5 1 Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texxn5 Posted January 12, 2014 Share #358 Posted January 12, 2014 Hi Larry, yeah, planking can really be intimidating at first. It's one of those things that you just kind of have to dive into and hope for the best.....especially your first time.....my Morgan was my first attempt, and I surprised myself and it turned out ok. Mistakes, sure, but it still came out ok. Makes you feel good when you step back and look at them....The epoxy will definitely add strength. I was surprised when I got to handling the hull after it was planked and decked and it was solid as a rock....nice feeling.... Quote John Current Current Builds: US Brig Niagara on my website FINISHED BUILD LOGS: New Bedford Whaleboat - page on my Morgan Website: http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com/whaleboat-build-log-by-john-fleming.html C.W. Morgan - Model Shipways 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1785-cw-morgan-by-texxn5-johnf-ms-164-kit/ USS Constitution - Revell 1:96 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1796-uss-constitution-by-texxn5-johnf-revell-196-kit/ website US Brig Niagara Model http://www.niagaramodel.com website Charles W Morgan Model http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com website PROXXON DISCOUNT TOOL STORE http://proxxontoolsdiscount.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lb0190 Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share #359 Posted January 12, 2014 I agree completely, it feels solid and looks halfway decent. Now all I need to do is resist sanding the planks down to the bulkheads. Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted January 13, 2014 Share #360 Posted January 13, 2014 well done Larry! the outer hull looks great Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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