fnick Posted April 10, 2014 #1 Posted April 10, 2014 Hi everyone Since I have restarted my build of Le Mirage I thought it was time to resurect my build log from the ashes of the Great crash of 13! This will be more of a summary rather than a detailed log. Lots of pictures, some words. You never know some of it might be interesting! I started this build 3 years ago. Yes progress is slow but in my defence having two children in that time has somewhat limited build time... Comments/criticisms/etc gratefully received. Always good to get feedback of more experienced modellers. Anyhoo enough of the intro. Hope you're sitting confortably. Popcorn ready?... Good. A few box content pictures to get going The box Inside the box This is my second build after the Billing Bluenose and I have to say I was very impressed with the quality of the materials. However the bulkhead slots needed some adjusting... All the bulkheads in place Unfortunately I didn't notice until way too late that the first one was higher up than it should have been. First mistake (and not the last! ) The slots in the bulkheads are used to determine where the gun ports are. and again although that didn't stop me forgetting some gun ports (told you there were more mistakes!) Well that's the limit of 8 photos per post reached. Until the next post... Nick coxswain, Aussie048, Nirvana and 3 others 6 Quote Le Mirage by fnick - Corel - 1:75
le débutant Posted April 10, 2014 #2 Posted April 10, 2014 Looking forward,more picture. I believe corel as some error in all kit. Nirvana 1 Quote
fnick Posted April 10, 2014 Author #3 Posted April 10, 2014 gun port omission (see previous post) now corrected... After that it was "just" a question of applying the first layer of planking in progress and voila. Finished! easy. However...something was amiss at the stern... so drastic measures were required... and the original booboo was fixed. At this point can I say to anyone who hesitates in making a fix. Dont! Once you've ripped up what was wrong, well, you can't leave it like that so might as well do it properly! Seriously I was tempted not to fix it. But I'm glad I did. And finally a couple of pics of the first planking filled and sanded. That's it for now. Thanks for looking in. Hopefully I wont keep you waiting for the next installment too long. Nick Aussie048, coxswain, Nirvana and 1 other 4 Quote Le Mirage by fnick - Corel - 1:75
fnick Posted April 10, 2014 Author #4 Posted April 10, 2014 Hi le debutant Thanks for the comments. More pictures just uploaded. And more where they came from! Nick Nirvana 1 Quote Le Mirage by fnick - Corel - 1:75
fnick Posted April 12, 2014 Author #5 Posted April 12, 2014 Evening all The next step was to plank the bow. Not wanting to follow Corel' instructions for reasons shown below... I tried to come up with something a bit more realistic and after getting some inspiration from the Ancre website, followed by some good tips from Danny this was the result which you will agree (well hopefully ) is better than Corel's suggestion! Next step was to mark up the frames in preparation for the second planking followed by the stern planking And then the second planking started... and I'm sure you noticed on that last photo that I was still having issues with gun port location . Ho hum... Only one more catch up post to follow and this log will have caught up with my progress. TTFN Nick Aussie048, tasmanian, Nirvana and 4 others 7 Quote Le Mirage by fnick - Corel - 1:75
Sjors Posted April 13, 2014 #6 Posted April 13, 2014 Hi Nick, It should be about time that you do something I will follow you further with this ! The stem looks great with that patron ! Nirvana 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
fnick Posted April 13, 2014 Author #7 Posted April 13, 2014 Thanks Brian and Sjors for the comments and Aussie048 for the like. I'm not planning to go scratch build crazy (famous last words ) on this build but the stem I had to change! Yes Sjors you are right I really need to catch up with you on your Le Mirage build. oh wait you've already finished it... :blush: Nick Sjors and Nirvana 2 Quote Le Mirage by fnick - Corel - 1:75
Sjors Posted April 14, 2014 #8 Posted April 14, 2014 A few months ago yes......... I'm now building the San Ildefonso and the Agamemnon How is the little one Daddy ????????? Nirvana and fnick 2 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
fnick Posted April 14, 2014 Author #9 Posted April 14, 2014 By the time I finish Le Mirage you're going to have quite a fleet. Wouldn't want to get the wrong side of you! Little one is doing fine. 3 months old already! Doing her best (along with her older brother) to keep us very busy and always on our toes Nick Nirvana 1 Quote Le Mirage by fnick - Corel - 1:75
Sjors Posted April 14, 2014 #10 Posted April 14, 2014 No worries Nick, I've been coming to England in June for two weeks to stay with Mobbsie and his Admiral and I don't have hostile intentions ! Only friendship !!!!!!! A little late ,but congrats to you and the Admiral of the birth of your daughter ! A Kings couple....boy and girl. Enjoy them, they are old before you know it Nirvana 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
fnick Posted April 22, 2014 Author #11 Posted April 22, 2014 A little late ,but congrats to you and the Admiral of the birth of your daughter ! Thanks Sjors! Evening all I decided to take the plunge and line the hull off according to Chuck Passaro's excellent tutorial. I didnt' want to use the wood supplied by Corel as I found it too light so decided to carry on with using walnut. I bought some 5mm wide planks and some 100mm wide sheets for the curved sections. All fine and well until I got both and realised the two didnt seem to be the same wood... or more specifically the 5mm strips did not look like walnut So ordered some more from a different source and got the same stuff... double . Given that my finances were (are... ) not illimited I decided to cut the 5mm planks from the 100mm sheets. Downside to that is that it takes a loooooong time to do the second planking. Hopefully it will be worth it. First step was to break the hull down into sections: and finally And so the second planking of the hull started. As a picture is worth a thousand words... and finally again And that brings me up to date. I'm not going to be posting updates quickly from now on since I only have time to do one planking strip a week on average and I have about 35 strips left . I do like doing planking but I have to admit I'll be glad when it's over I'll try and post some photos when I complete a section. Thanks for looking Nick hexnut, GrandpaPhil, coxswain and 2 others 5 Quote Le Mirage by fnick - Corel - 1:75
NMBROOK Posted April 22, 2014 #12 Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) Some great work and some fabulous planking Nick Spiling the planks and laying in a contemporary model style will always look the nicest.Yes it is a lot of work cutting the planks out but the results are well worth it.I found the hardest bit to get to look right was the bow end of the garboard plank.You have to stand the model right way up and looking from the horizontal,try to get the end so it looks like it flows in a sweeping curve from the side.This dictates the radius you cut on the end.It took a couple of goes on Caroline to get this to look right. Kind Regards Nigel Edited April 22, 2014 by NMBROOK Nirvana 1 Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline
Ulises Victoria Posted April 22, 2014 #13 Posted April 22, 2014 Now, this is a nice looking ship, Nick, and I can tell you are off to make a nice build out of it. Your planking jobs looks very clean and even. Congratulations! Nirvana 1 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
fnick Posted April 23, 2014 Author #14 Posted April 23, 2014 Thanks Nigel and Ulises for the comments and Aussie048 for the like. I knew it was a good idea not to post any close-ups Seriously it's nice to get feedback. Thanks Nigel for the heads up on garboard plank. I have found that turning the ship the right way up to check planking does help. What looks straight upside down isn't necessarily!! Nick Nirvana and NMBROOK 2 Quote Le Mirage by fnick - Corel - 1:75
Sjors Posted April 23, 2014 #15 Posted April 23, 2014 Nick, You can make close-up pictures ! Nothing wrong with it !!!!!! That looks great that walnut . Go on like this and your Le Mirage will end up in a museum Nirvana 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
md1400cs Posted April 23, 2014 #16 Posted April 23, 2014 Nick, Happy to have looked in on your Mirage. Looks excellent. Beautiful hull, bow planking. Nice. Michael Nirvana 1 Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa -
fnick Posted April 24, 2014 Author #17 Posted April 24, 2014 Thanks Sjors and Michael for the comments although I'm not so sure about the museum one though Interestingly enough Corel used to supply walnut for the second layer of planking. Says so in the instructions (still) and you can see that on the photo on the box (start of the log). Wonder why they changed to a lighter wood. Nick Nirvana 1 Quote Le Mirage by fnick - Corel - 1:75
Sjors Posted April 25, 2014 #18 Posted April 25, 2014 Maybe they don't like it ???? Or there is someone who is packing the kits and change it by himself.... Nirvana 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
Landlubber Mike Posted April 25, 2014 #19 Posted April 25, 2014 Hi Nick, very nice work on your Le Mirage I am about to start the Corel Unicorn, and actually spent last evening mapping out how to modify the one-piece keel piece to add the stern post, keel, false keel, and various components of the stem. Your approach is exactly what I'm planning to do and it's nice to see it executed in a beautiful way One thing I'd note - in my limited research, it looks like the scarph joints for the keel run a bit differently - essentially run vertically, so you don't really see the long joint. I could be wrong though. I'm subscribing to your log and look forward to your progress! Nirvana 1 Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)
fnick Posted April 28, 2014 Author #20 Posted April 28, 2014 Hi Sjors Haha yes you can imagine it. "What no more walnut. Oh well this will do..." Thanks for your feedback Mike. Interesting comments about the scarph joints. I took my inspiration from drawings I saw on the Ancre website but have to admit I didn't really research that area (or any...) properly. Maybe just two different ways of doing them I guess? Nick Nirvana 1 Quote Le Mirage by fnick - Corel - 1:75
NMBROOK Posted April 28, 2014 #21 Posted April 28, 2014 In answer to the scarph joints in the keel you are both correct .On French vessels they were horizontal,on English vessels they run vertically Kind Regards Nigel fnick, Landlubber Mike, Nirvana and 1 other 4 Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline
fnick Posted April 28, 2014 Author #22 Posted April 28, 2014 Hi Nigel Thanks for clearing that one up. Learn something new every day. Nick NMBROOK and Nirvana 2 Quote Le Mirage by fnick - Corel - 1:75
Landlubber Mike Posted May 1, 2014 #23 Posted May 1, 2014 Thanks Nigel! Learned something new tonight Nirvana and NMBROOK 2 Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)
fnick Posted May 25, 2014 Author #24 Posted May 25, 2014 Evening All (About!) Time for an update. Nothing much. Another planking section completed. Only four to go. I'll let the photos speak for themselves. As usual, comments/criticisms gratefully received! Thanks for looking Nick Sjors, maggsl_01, Duanelaker and 5 others 8 Quote Le Mirage by fnick - Corel - 1:75
NMBROOK Posted May 25, 2014 #25 Posted May 25, 2014 Excellent planking work Nick It is no mean feat getting the planking to conform to contemporary style.Are you cutting the planks from sheet or edge bending normal strip? Kind Regards Nigel Nirvana and fnick 2 Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline
Sjors Posted May 26, 2014 #26 Posted May 26, 2014 It goes slow but it looks perfect Daddy Nick !!!!!!! A few more planks and then the fiddly stuff fnick and Nirvana 2 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
fnick Posted May 26, 2014 Author #27 Posted May 26, 2014 Evening all Thanks to WackoWolf, maggsl_01 and Aussie048 for the likes. Thanks Nigel and Sjors for the comments. Nigel I am cutting the planks from sheet with a X-acto knife (haven't got space or money for power tools...yet...hopefully ) It's not too bad but I think I could benefit from getting a ship's curve for the curved sections. I'm finding it quite difficult to get nice smooth curves. and then the fiddly stuff You mean to tell me this is the easy bit??!?! Nick Sjors, NMBROOK and Nirvana 3 Quote Le Mirage by fnick - Corel - 1:75
NMBROOK Posted May 26, 2014 #28 Posted May 26, 2014 I think even if you did have a scroll saw Nick,the walnut might be prone to breakage with those curves.Even with pearwood on caroline I had the odd few planks relegated to recycling due to breakage.Yes a set of French/ships curves is on my list.I have one of those flexy curves but could I find it It will turn up when I have no immediate need for it Kind Regards Nigel Nirvana 1 Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline
fnick Posted June 25, 2014 Author #29 Posted June 25, 2014 Evening all Small update. Another planking section complete. Getting there despite the fact this build sometimes makes me feel like a slow snail at the bottom of Mount Everest... Looking up... Anyhoo enough terrible jokes. Here are a couple of progress pictures: Nigel a belated thanks for the comment. Yes walnut can be brittle although the stuff I'm using now is far better than what I had when I planked the keel. Now that was horrible stuff. Thanks for looking Nick GrandpaPhil, md1400cs, WackoWolf and 4 others 7 Quote Le Mirage by fnick - Corel - 1:75
fnick Posted June 27, 2014 Author #30 Posted June 27, 2014 Hi WackoWolf, md1400cs and Robert Thanks for the likes! Nick jms777 and Nirvana 2 Quote Le Mirage by fnick - Corel - 1:75
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