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  1. Cristiano
    When I built a Polacre, I made some research on the subject, since was a scratch build model. Below there is a scheme that explain better than many words how where managed the latin sails. Hope it clarified all of your doubts! 😀
  2. Cristiano
    This is definetly a very interesting series. I have read the book and seen the series. As everyone can know googling on the web, the remains of the crew and lifeboats and various accessories has been found during the decades in various zones. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin's_lost_expedition So has been possible to hypotize the various events that led to the total disappearance of the crew. The book'author has used the informations, the recovered objects and remains, the sites, as key points for his novel. So when someone dies in a specific place in the novel, is exactly where has been found a century later. If an object is found by explorers decades later, the novel's author gives his explanation as to why it was there. It was fantastic to find the correspondence between people, objects and places, between the novel and reality. The authors of the TV series obviously followed the novel.
  3. Cristiano
    I agree with the hypotesys of a movable gangway. There various images where the loading of goods is made using this lowered gangway. In that way it is possible to let the bow of the ship reach a shore not provided with a dock, and load the goods. The sailing technology was not so evolved during the roman period, so the sails were simple squared sails, without improvements. The Roman ships were unable to sail upwind.
  4. Cristiano
    No, that cannot be. This is a steam powered ship, the one of the drawing was defined as "motonave", which is an Italian term to define a ship powered with internal combustion engines. Which for these ships means diesel engines. In addition, this is a cargo ship, and the one of the drawing is a passenger ship. I am rather convinced that the drawing belong to the class of ships identified with the names "Città di..." (City of...). In the drawing the total lenght is expressed as "lunghezza entro i dritti 87,60 m", which means "lenght between perpendicular 87,60 m". It means that the lenght over all can possibly match the 92 m of the "Città di ...." class ships.
  5. Cristiano
    The below one is the link to one ship that resemble the plans one. The size is similar and shape similar, too. It is just an example, a more carefully research must be done. Since the drawing is of autumn 1928, it is possible that entered in service in 1929. That ship entered in service in 1929, as a passenger ship. Later during world war 2 was converted in Hospital ship and so on. This was sunked and not captured, so the drawings hardly can belong to it, but eventually can belong to the same class...(the size and shape match your drawings) https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Città_di_Trapani_(nave) Below there are the details of this class of passenger ships. The plans are rather similar. eight of these were built apparently. http://www.culturanavale.it/documentazione.php?id=76 Below some detail of their destiny: -Città di Agrigento: destroyed at the port of Marsa Matruth in 20 july 1942 -Città di Alessandria: survived the war -Città di Bastia: hit by a torpedo by sm Tetrarch, sunk between Pireo and Crete in 27 september 1941 -Città di Livorno: Città di Savona recovered and renamed -Città di Marsala: survived the war, renamed Città di Trapani to honor the twin ship sunken -Città di La Spezia: sunken by a torpedo in 27 august 1943 between Brindisi and Valona -Città di Savona: sunken at Leros in 6 february 1944, recovered and renamed Città di Livorno -Città di Trapani: sunken by a magnetic mine near Italian coasts Not all of these were made in the same shipyards. the drawings were standardised, but the manufacturing site may vary.
  6. Cristiano
    Interesting... For what I understand, it is possible the following: -The drawings plans are belonging to one generic class of passenger ship projected for the passengers transport between the "minor lines", which means probably routes where less passengers are imbarked (ships for less crowded routes). In these years can means as an example the regular communications between Italy and its own Islands, and Tripoli (Libya) or Italy and Tunisia. These were rather common ships. -The S.E.L.F was a company of Genova (Italian town) and was probably a subsupplier in the ship construction. -The ship belong to a standardized class of passenger ships, so the name of the ship is not showed. During the second world war, many of these were confiscated from the Italian Reign, armed with guns of various type and arranged as an "armed troop transport ship" or "light convoy escort ship", in anycase "auxiliary ships". If your parent serviced in the Royal Navy during the second world war, it is possible that fought against Italian convoys that supplied the Italian/German troops between Italy and Lybia. So the drawings it is possbile that belonged to a ship captured or sunked during the second world war by British Navy. But the Italian ships were in anycase enemy ships, so it is possibile that this ship was still a civilian ship captured or sunken, and not a "confiscated and converted ship", eventually in a North African harbour. During the second world war, Italy had garrisons in the African Horn, which means Eritrea, Somalia, Etiopia, so this ship can be captured/sunken in these zones or in the routes between Italy and these zones.
  7. Cristiano
    The page you cited resumes well the history related to the "San Felipe" drawings and their origin. I can add that a ship named "San Felipe" existed in the range of time of the kit model, but with only 80 cannons, and it was a two decker ship. So eventually you should consider the final result that is currently sold by Mantua as a "mix" of informations between this "San Felipe" and the "Nuestra Senora de la concepcion y de las animas" . Below there is an article that explain (in spanish) the history of the "San Felipe" of 80 cannons. But I found in the past other sources that confirmed that 80 cannons ship existence. Keep in mind that now is more easy than 50 years ago to dig deep in the informations sources and correct them, thanks to the web and the digitalization of the books. http://www.todoababor.es/listado/navio-sanfelipe.htm
  8. Cristiano
    A definitive clarification about the APOSTOL FELIPE of the Occre. the six galleons built by Martin de Arana were: -San Felipe; -Nuestra Senora de Begona; -Los Tres Reyes; -San Juan Baptista; -San Sebastian; -Santiago. The number of gun ports of the San Felipe more or less were the same of the Apostol Felipe. The cited book is very detailed, with all the detailed list of all the components and cargo of each ship, crew, etc.
  9. Cristiano
    Hello Captain Steve, Remember that if you are searching deep in the web about a specific niche argument, the best is to search in the NATIVE LANGUAGE OF THE SUBJECT. That means that you should search in Spanish language. in anycase, I think that should have existed. The informations you are looking for should be inside the following book, which is about of the six galleons built by Martín de Arana for King Felipe IV (as mentioned by Occre for their model kit): https://www.amazon.com/Six-Galleons-King-Spain-Seventeenth/dp/0801845130 in the attached file (pdf) there is explained the genesis of this book (spanish language). Now it remains only to buy the book for clarify any doubt... ABC-07.09.1991-pagina 055.pdf
  10. Cristiano
    Well done! Now you must solve the most complex of the misteries... You must find the reason why Corel doesn't simply named its kit "Ferrett" or "Sharke" instead of "Resolution"... And I assure to you that is a tough task!
  11. Cristiano
    Thank you, but I explained myself badly. I have not yet found historical sound evidences that the Rattlesnake really was renamed "Le Tonnant". So I am making considerations regarding exclusively the history of the ship. Regarding the construction plans, the ship is almost the same.
  12. Cristiano
    Well, theoretically it was the last duty of the captured Rattlesnake. It was captured by British and after few years sold to French and used by a corsair corvette and renamed "Le Tonnant". That is theoretically the reason of those two twins models. But I cannot demonstrate it, since I have found no real evidences. Keep in mind that the original construction plans of the "Le Tonnant" were made by Vincenzo Lusci, which was the "Backbone" of the pioneer period of the wood kit manufacturers in Italy, more than 50 years ago. It was their main source of construction plans. So, since it was a "pioneer period" I cannot be sure of the level of research done for making some of the construction plans. Some of those model originated by those construction plans are still in their catalogues.
  13. Cristiano
    Regarding your post about Corel Resolution, I can confirm that such cutter existed. In the attached file there is a painting taken from the Greenwich maritime Museum, dated 1794. But the Corel version is not hystorically correct. They added a stern cabin with related access door, and made other modifications. I think that they wanted to propose a kit different from the competitors ones....
  14. Cristiano
    Hello Dick, Inside the book there are various drawings that shows your type of ship either with a single mast and three masts. I think that the number of decks present in your model and the relative scale, forces the presence of three masts. It's just my opinion. The author regarding some of the drawings warns the reader that some of the ships can be hystorically partially wrong, due to some "artistic modification" or lack of ship engineering knowledge. If you want to make a deep search inside charts and drawings, this can be of help: http://www.internetculturale.it/opencms/opencms/it/index.html Here you can find the scan of several hundreds of drawings and charts, maps, from Italian archives, which can be downloaded in pdf. the search with keywords can greatly reduce the number of material to be checked. Here are present many drawings of venetian ships, constructive ones, too. As an example, below the link to some ancient maps collections (several thousands): http://www.internetculturale.it/opencms/opencms/it/main/esplora/storiageo/geoviaggi/
  15. Cristiano
    Great that it can be of use. If you need some translation, let me know and I can provide you fast answers. the descriptions are mainly the locations where the image is taken, such as the name of churches or cathedrals and the name of the artist that produced the painting or sculpture, and a brief decription of the overall painting/sculpture. if you want to search in the web eventually the original image, keep in mind that some of the names of the foreign artists has been "Italianized" as usual in the last centuries. So Albrecht Durer became Alberto Durero in the book. It can happen in addition that a painting or a map that was present in a church or palace (in the period on which the book was written), now is not anymore there and is eventually in a museum or in another palace. it can become a tricky search!!! like in Dan Brown novels!!!
  16. Cristiano
    Hello Dick, You are doing a great work on this carrack. I wonder if you already have checked a book called "navi venete" written by Cesare Augusto Levi in 1892. He made the type of research that you are doing more or less now. He searched for venetian ships images in every corner of Venice, including anonymous paintings, sculptures, ex-voto, frescos. The result of his work is inside that book. It is a book only of drawings, with specificated the source of the image. It is more precious than that it seems, for your research. Below a link to the book... http://www.libreriaeditricefilippi.com/index.php/navi-venete-da-codici-marmi-e-dipinti.html And below some pages of the book.
  17. Cristiano
    Hello Don, you are doing a great work. Definetly Marisstella kit are not for beginners... I see the marvellous work you have done on the carrack, too. I own both these Maristella kits, but I lack dramatically the time for starting them. If you are looking for more inspiration and informations regarding the Trabaccolo, there are three restored Trabaccoli still existent in Italy (and floating). They are called "Nuovo Trionfo", "Giovanni Pascoli" and "Isola d'oro". So if you search images on Google with the keywords "trabaccolo nuovo trionfo", "trabaccolo Giovanni Pascoli" and "trabaccolo Isola d'Oro" you will find a lot of photos and videos about these restored ships. Eventually can be of inspiration for your work!
  18. Cristiano
    Well, again I arrived too late.. It is difficult to find colour photos made by the passengers to help you, but the original brochures were filled of colour photos. Below there is a link of a website where almost all the pages of the commercial brochure of the Andrea Doria are showed. The photos are almost all colour ones. Some (interesting?) colour photos of the pool too... http://lmcshipsandthesea.blogspot.it/2013/10/andrea-doria-and-cristoforo-colombo.html In anycase, you are doing a very marvellous work!
  19. Cristiano
    What a fool I was! I always thought that those colours belonged to a flag! :D But Yes, you're right...caprese salad is obviously the most logical answer! :D
  20. Cristiano
    Hello Dan, You have done a very beautiful work! Regarding the Michelangelo, as for others Italian ships, there are plans available at the "Navimodellisti Bolognesi" Society, which were the same that let available the original plans of the Andrea Doria. Below the link: http://www.anb-online.it/navi-mercantili-e-imbarcazioni-da-diporto/transatlantici-e-navi-da-crociera/0139-michelangelo-l-f-t-27585-m-1100-e-1200/?lang=en Have you already explored this website? It contains a lot of precious photos of the Michelangelo. Below the link: http://www.michelangelo-raffaello.com/photo_gallery/gallery/gallery.htm
  21. Cristiano
    Hello Rod, congratulation for your marvellous work! If you want to add a final touch, you can eventually add the radio wires, as in the photo attached. The Anteo was probably inspired to a series of tugs built in 1935-1937 that belong to the "Porto" (harbour) series. below the drawing of the Porto Ercole and the photo of the Porto Sdobba and Porto Torres. in all can be seen the radio wires arrangement. but probably I arrived a bit late...
  22. Cristiano
    Too pity that I discovered it now. The plans you own are a copy of the ones that are currently sold by the "Associazione Navimodellisti Bolognesi", which owns and sells the originals. So probably there was a multiple passage on that selling of those plans. They sell them at 115 euro, including VAT, excluding shipping cost. The sheets are 13. below the link of the Andrea Doria plans page: http://www.anb-online.it/navi-mercantili-e-imbarcazioni-da-diporto/transatlantici-e-navi-da-crociera/0638-andrea-doria/?lang=en If the sheets that you have are 13, everything is Ok, otherwise something has been missing...
  23. Cristiano
    Thank you again to everybody, you're very smart (I am not used to such level of sugar!! ) Thank you Carl! I count on it! It will be a scratch built project, but now my intentions are a bit "foggy"...so at the moment I don't know exactly when I will start it... :huh: Again thank to everyone!
  24. Cristiano
    Thank you to everybody for your smart comments! Maybe in autumn I will open again the shipyard with a new project...
  25. Cristiano
    You can see it now Carl! :cheers: :cheers: Done! Finished! I finished the model finally! :cheers: :cheers: The flags were the final touch. I re-painted them with acrylic paint in order to let be "less shiny". Now it will take some time to pack all the tools and accessories used during this year... I made a bit more photo than usual, just to show better the final appearance of the model. The last photo shows its final positioning in the wall niche.

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