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Blue Ensign got a reaction from KARAVOKIRIS in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post One Hundred and Sixty – nine
Progressing the 24’ cutter
The floor of the cutter is covered by gratings at the stern, open boarded footwaling for the body, and a small close board platform at the bow.
4265
I changed the footwaling to a close boarded version as shown in the AotS book Diana which contains 1:48 scale drawings of a 24’ cutter.
Before I add the ‘false’ ribs I use a copy of the kit plan to mark the positions of the thwarts.
Positioning the ribs really needs to take into consideration the position of the thwarts and the related rowlocks for the oars, which are cut into the wash strake.
4268
The AotS drawings show the 24’ cutter arranged for single banked rowing. This is the arrangement I will follow, apart from any other consideration, there are less rowlocks to cut.
4270
I firstly fix only those ribs that fit aft of the thwarts before fixing the Rising, (thwart support strips) The remaining ribs can be slotted behind the Risings in the correct positions.
The risings are fitted using a 4mm depth gauge but in fact follow the line of the second strake down from the top.
Once fitted it is useful to check both the levels and the correct height of the thwarts above the footwaling.
4273
My 1:64 scale figures are useful for this purpose.
4275
I would like to see a sitting figure produced by Vanguard. A sitting Captain would serve well to give scale to the splendid Vanguard cabin furniture, and also the stern sheets of the boat range.
4277
I like to add small features to the boats such as here; the cap square for the Mainmast and step to take the mast heel on the Keelson.
4279
4280
4281
4280
Needs cleaning up now before finishing.
B.E.
15/04/2024
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from wvdhee in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post One Hundred and Sixty – nine
Progressing the 24’ cutter
The floor of the cutter is covered by gratings at the stern, open boarded footwaling for the body, and a small close board platform at the bow.
4265
I changed the footwaling to a close boarded version as shown in the AotS book Diana which contains 1:48 scale drawings of a 24’ cutter.
Before I add the ‘false’ ribs I use a copy of the kit plan to mark the positions of the thwarts.
Positioning the ribs really needs to take into consideration the position of the thwarts and the related rowlocks for the oars, which are cut into the wash strake.
4268
The AotS drawings show the 24’ cutter arranged for single banked rowing. This is the arrangement I will follow, apart from any other consideration, there are less rowlocks to cut.
4270
I firstly fix only those ribs that fit aft of the thwarts before fixing the Rising, (thwart support strips) The remaining ribs can be slotted behind the Risings in the correct positions.
The risings are fitted using a 4mm depth gauge but in fact follow the line of the second strake down from the top.
Once fitted it is useful to check both the levels and the correct height of the thwarts above the footwaling.
4273
My 1:64 scale figures are useful for this purpose.
4275
I would like to see a sitting figure produced by Vanguard. A sitting Captain would serve well to give scale to the splendid Vanguard cabin furniture, and also the stern sheets of the boat range.
4277
I like to add small features to the boats such as here; the cap square for the Mainmast and step to take the mast heel on the Keelson.
4279
4280
4281
4280
Needs cleaning up now before finishing.
B.E.
15/04/2024
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from chris watton in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post One Hundred and Sixty – nine
Progressing the 24’ cutter
The floor of the cutter is covered by gratings at the stern, open boarded footwaling for the body, and a small close board platform at the bow.
4265
I changed the footwaling to a close boarded version as shown in the AotS book Diana which contains 1:48 scale drawings of a 24’ cutter.
Before I add the ‘false’ ribs I use a copy of the kit plan to mark the positions of the thwarts.
Positioning the ribs really needs to take into consideration the position of the thwarts and the related rowlocks for the oars, which are cut into the wash strake.
4268
The AotS drawings show the 24’ cutter arranged for single banked rowing. This is the arrangement I will follow, apart from any other consideration, there are less rowlocks to cut.
4270
I firstly fix only those ribs that fit aft of the thwarts before fixing the Rising, (thwart support strips) The remaining ribs can be slotted behind the Risings in the correct positions.
The risings are fitted using a 4mm depth gauge but in fact follow the line of the second strake down from the top.
Once fitted it is useful to check both the levels and the correct height of the thwarts above the footwaling.
4273
My 1:64 scale figures are useful for this purpose.
4275
I would like to see a sitting figure produced by Vanguard. A sitting Captain would serve well to give scale to the splendid Vanguard cabin furniture, and also the stern sheets of the boat range.
4277
I like to add small features to the boats such as here; the cap square for the Mainmast and step to take the mast heel on the Keelson.
4279
4280
4281
4280
Needs cleaning up now before finishing.
B.E.
15/04/2024
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from KARAVOKIRIS in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
I've not seem a specific reference to Foreign Service locations, but I suspect it generally meant any location beyond home waters , particularly the tropics where repair facilities may be restricted. Clinker built boats were more difficult to repair and WE May (The boats of men of war) cites that in 1800 it was decided that the only cutters to be sent abroad should be Jolly boats. Navy board orders to Dockyards PRO adm 106/2512 no's 430 440/441.
For the purposes of this build the cutter will be issued as carvel built.
9898(2)
9899(2)
I do however, have a clinker built 18' cutter (Jolly Boat) ready to serve.
Cheers,
B.E.
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from dafi in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post One Hundred and Sixty – nine
Progressing the 24’ cutter
The floor of the cutter is covered by gratings at the stern, open boarded footwaling for the body, and a small close board platform at the bow.
4265
I changed the footwaling to a close boarded version as shown in the AotS book Diana which contains 1:48 scale drawings of a 24’ cutter.
Before I add the ‘false’ ribs I use a copy of the kit plan to mark the positions of the thwarts.
Positioning the ribs really needs to take into consideration the position of the thwarts and the related rowlocks for the oars, which are cut into the wash strake.
4268
The AotS drawings show the 24’ cutter arranged for single banked rowing. This is the arrangement I will follow, apart from any other consideration, there are less rowlocks to cut.
4270
I firstly fix only those ribs that fit aft of the thwarts before fixing the Rising, (thwart support strips) The remaining ribs can be slotted behind the Risings in the correct positions.
The risings are fitted using a 4mm depth gauge but in fact follow the line of the second strake down from the top.
Once fitted it is useful to check both the levels and the correct height of the thwarts above the footwaling.
4273
My 1:64 scale figures are useful for this purpose.
4275
I would like to see a sitting figure produced by Vanguard. A sitting Captain would serve well to give scale to the splendid Vanguard cabin furniture, and also the stern sheets of the boat range.
4277
I like to add small features to the boats such as here; the cap square for the Mainmast and step to take the mast heel on the Keelson.
4279
4280
4281
4280
Needs cleaning up now before finishing.
B.E.
15/04/2024
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from hollowneck in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post One Hundred and Sixty – nine
Progressing the 24’ cutter
The floor of the cutter is covered by gratings at the stern, open boarded footwaling for the body, and a small close board platform at the bow.
4265
I changed the footwaling to a close boarded version as shown in the AotS book Diana which contains 1:48 scale drawings of a 24’ cutter.
Before I add the ‘false’ ribs I use a copy of the kit plan to mark the positions of the thwarts.
Positioning the ribs really needs to take into consideration the position of the thwarts and the related rowlocks for the oars, which are cut into the wash strake.
4268
The AotS drawings show the 24’ cutter arranged for single banked rowing. This is the arrangement I will follow, apart from any other consideration, there are less rowlocks to cut.
4270
I firstly fix only those ribs that fit aft of the thwarts before fixing the Rising, (thwart support strips) The remaining ribs can be slotted behind the Risings in the correct positions.
The risings are fitted using a 4mm depth gauge but in fact follow the line of the second strake down from the top.
Once fitted it is useful to check both the levels and the correct height of the thwarts above the footwaling.
4273
My 1:64 scale figures are useful for this purpose.
4275
I would like to see a sitting figure produced by Vanguard. A sitting Captain would serve well to give scale to the splendid Vanguard cabin furniture, and also the stern sheets of the boat range.
4277
I like to add small features to the boats such as here; the cap square for the Mainmast and step to take the mast heel on the Keelson.
4279
4280
4281
4280
Needs cleaning up now before finishing.
B.E.
15/04/2024
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from SighingDutchman in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post One Hundred and Sixty-six
My version of Indy is effectively completed now and with some serious moving about of models within my workroom/office, I have found room to house Indy in the prominent position she deserves, and without encroaching on other areas of the house.
4223
She has displaced Norske Love which now has a new position vacated by Alert which also has a new location.
e2008a
Had I completed the masting on Indy it would be in the order of that of Norske Love which is of a slightly smaller scale of 1:70.
e2012a
Norske Love has received a well overdue clean, having endured all the dust created during the construction of ‘Indy’.
4022
Not quite ready for the glass cover to be on yet, but at least the issue of ‘where are you going to put that’ is now resolved.
As a bonus the lower profile of Indy compared to Norske love will allow me to re-arrange the wall Pictures and perhaps get one of Indy.
I have decided to have a further dabble with the boats, and have started assembly of the 26’ Launch, pity not to make them up as they are provided with the kit.
B.E.
06/04/2024
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post One Hundred and Sixty – nine
Progressing the 24’ cutter
The floor of the cutter is covered by gratings at the stern, open boarded footwaling for the body, and a small close board platform at the bow.
4265
I changed the footwaling to a close boarded version as shown in the AotS book Diana which contains 1:48 scale drawings of a 24’ cutter.
Before I add the ‘false’ ribs I use a copy of the kit plan to mark the positions of the thwarts.
Positioning the ribs really needs to take into consideration the position of the thwarts and the related rowlocks for the oars, which are cut into the wash strake.
4268
The AotS drawings show the 24’ cutter arranged for single banked rowing. This is the arrangement I will follow, apart from any other consideration, there are less rowlocks to cut.
4270
I firstly fix only those ribs that fit aft of the thwarts before fixing the Rising, (thwart support strips) The remaining ribs can be slotted behind the Risings in the correct positions.
The risings are fitted using a 4mm depth gauge but in fact follow the line of the second strake down from the top.
Once fitted it is useful to check both the levels and the correct height of the thwarts above the footwaling.
4273
My 1:64 scale figures are useful for this purpose.
4275
I would like to see a sitting figure produced by Vanguard. A sitting Captain would serve well to give scale to the splendid Vanguard cabin furniture, and also the stern sheets of the boat range.
4277
I like to add small features to the boats such as here; the cap square for the Mainmast and step to take the mast heel on the Keelson.
4279
4280
4281
4280
Needs cleaning up now before finishing.
B.E.
15/04/2024
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from Martes in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post One Hundred and Sixty-five
Thank you, Allan, the kit didn’t include any standards to support the transom, but I note that Alex M has included five in his drawings of the Anson following conversion to a Razee. He also includes an extended central standard to support an Ensign staff tabernacle.
I did think about following his example but decided that the double arrangement looked more aesthetically pleasing to my eye.
I think the inclusion of such an item is a reasonable assumption to make, and the set up on the Indy kit almost begged the inclusion of the arrangement as I have modelled it.
4206
4207
4217
4211
4212
4205
Onwards,
B.E.
04/04/2024
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from Martes in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post One Hundred and Sixty-six
My version of Indy is effectively completed now and with some serious moving about of models within my workroom/office, I have found room to house Indy in the prominent position she deserves, and without encroaching on other areas of the house.
4223
She has displaced Norske Love which now has a new position vacated by Alert which also has a new location.
e2008a
Had I completed the masting on Indy it would be in the order of that of Norske Love which is of a slightly smaller scale of 1:70.
e2012a
Norske Love has received a well overdue clean, having endured all the dust created during the construction of ‘Indy’.
4022
Not quite ready for the glass cover to be on yet, but at least the issue of ‘where are you going to put that’ is now resolved.
As a bonus the lower profile of Indy compared to Norske love will allow me to re-arrange the wall Pictures and perhaps get one of Indy.
I have decided to have a further dabble with the boats, and have started assembly of the 26’ Launch, pity not to make them up as they are provided with the kit.
B.E.
06/04/2024
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from yvesvidal in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post One Hundred and Sixty – nine
Progressing the 24’ cutter
The floor of the cutter is covered by gratings at the stern, open boarded footwaling for the body, and a small close board platform at the bow.
4265
I changed the footwaling to a close boarded version as shown in the AotS book Diana which contains 1:48 scale drawings of a 24’ cutter.
Before I add the ‘false’ ribs I use a copy of the kit plan to mark the positions of the thwarts.
Positioning the ribs really needs to take into consideration the position of the thwarts and the related rowlocks for the oars, which are cut into the wash strake.
4268
The AotS drawings show the 24’ cutter arranged for single banked rowing. This is the arrangement I will follow, apart from any other consideration, there are less rowlocks to cut.
4270
I firstly fix only those ribs that fit aft of the thwarts before fixing the Rising, (thwart support strips) The remaining ribs can be slotted behind the Risings in the correct positions.
The risings are fitted using a 4mm depth gauge but in fact follow the line of the second strake down from the top.
Once fitted it is useful to check both the levels and the correct height of the thwarts above the footwaling.
4273
My 1:64 scale figures are useful for this purpose.
4275
I would like to see a sitting figure produced by Vanguard. A sitting Captain would serve well to give scale to the splendid Vanguard cabin furniture, and also the stern sheets of the boat range.
4277
I like to add small features to the boats such as here; the cap square for the Mainmast and step to take the mast heel on the Keelson.
4279
4280
4281
4280
Needs cleaning up now before finishing.
B.E.
15/04/2024
-
Blue Ensign got a reaction from Clark in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post One Hundred and Sixty – nine
Progressing the 24’ cutter
The floor of the cutter is covered by gratings at the stern, open boarded footwaling for the body, and a small close board platform at the bow.
4265
I changed the footwaling to a close boarded version as shown in the AotS book Diana which contains 1:48 scale drawings of a 24’ cutter.
Before I add the ‘false’ ribs I use a copy of the kit plan to mark the positions of the thwarts.
Positioning the ribs really needs to take into consideration the position of the thwarts and the related rowlocks for the oars, which are cut into the wash strake.
4268
The AotS drawings show the 24’ cutter arranged for single banked rowing. This is the arrangement I will follow, apart from any other consideration, there are less rowlocks to cut.
4270
I firstly fix only those ribs that fit aft of the thwarts before fixing the Rising, (thwart support strips) The remaining ribs can be slotted behind the Risings in the correct positions.
The risings are fitted using a 4mm depth gauge but in fact follow the line of the second strake down from the top.
Once fitted it is useful to check both the levels and the correct height of the thwarts above the footwaling.
4273
My 1:64 scale figures are useful for this purpose.
4275
I would like to see a sitting figure produced by Vanguard. A sitting Captain would serve well to give scale to the splendid Vanguard cabin furniture, and also the stern sheets of the boat range.
4277
I like to add small features to the boats such as here; the cap square for the Mainmast and step to take the mast heel on the Keelson.
4279
4280
4281
4280
Needs cleaning up now before finishing.
B.E.
15/04/2024
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Glad it's not just me.
B.E.
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from yvesvidal in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
I've not seem a specific reference to Foreign Service locations, but I suspect it generally meant any location beyond home waters , particularly the tropics where repair facilities may be restricted. Clinker built boats were more difficult to repair and WE May (The boats of men of war) cites that in 1800 it was decided that the only cutters to be sent abroad should be Jolly boats. Navy board orders to Dockyards PRO adm 106/2512 no's 430 440/441.
For the purposes of this build the cutter will be issued as carvel built.
9898(2)
9899(2)
I do however, have a clinker built 18' cutter (Jolly Boat) ready to serve.
Cheers,
B.E.
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from KARAVOKIRIS in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post One Hundred and Sixty-Eight
Feeling somewhat miffed about the failure with the Launch I am moving onto one of the 24’ Cutters, if for no other reason than ‘getting back on the horse’
I have made 18’ Cutters previously, along with Yawls, and a 24’ Cutter should at least on paper be less fiddly.
4245
Before I had barely got started the tab broke off the transom piece, and once again the stern post broke part way up. This is before I even get to the delicate stem with its planking slot.
I am beginning to think that use of 0.8mm Pear is just too thin for the structurally important keel part.
It is pertinent that the grain on these parts is horizontal whereas any pressure tends to be lateral. It seems that any pressure, however light, gives a high risk of breaking these parts.
4243
At least with the 24’ cutter there are two sets provided, and in my case one was cannibalised to get to the keel and frames assembled.
4248
With the fairing completed this is the same point at which things went wrong with the Launch.
I added further support to the stem before I began planking, and this time I resolved to use pva on the plank edges in addition to ca on the frames.
4252
The first four planks fit into the stem rabbet, or slot, happily without mishap this time. At this point the structure is much stronger, and damage risk to the stem much reduced.
4254
The garboard planks are fitted using 3mm strips.
4256
There is too little room to follow any sort of tick marking for plank shaping, so its basically done by eye. The aim is to get any less than realistic planking strakes below the round of the hull, out of sight.
4258
I achieve this by spiling the last plank.
Unlike the Pinnace, removal of the central bulkheads did not result in disassembly of the planking, no doubt due to adding pva along the strake joints.
4259
There is no access to clean inside glue stains during construction so there is inevitably marring present once the bulkheads are removed.
4260
A gentle approach is necessary, I clean the insides initially by damping the excess glue with a small paint brush and gently scraping with a micro chisel.
Water is used for the pva and acetone for the ca. very small amounts are used to avoid affecting the main construction.
A little more fettlin’ and I can move onto the next stage.
B.E.
11/04/2024
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from FriedClams in ELBE 1 1948 by Mirabell61 - scale 1:87 - Lightship
Very impressive brass work Nils, and your problem solving skills are second to none.
Nice progress.
B.E.
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from hollowneck in HMS Jason by Beef Wellington - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Artois-class frigate modified from HMS Diana 1794
Magnificent work Jason, that is truly impressive.
B.E.
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from CiscoH in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Glad it's not just me.
B.E.
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from thibaultron in Chris Watton and Vanguard Models news and updates Volume 2
I gently rub the base on sandpaper until it is very thin, and then snip around the feet with sharp cutters, I suspect using a dremel would be overkill.
B.E.
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from Retired guy in ELBE 1 1948 by Mirabell61 - scale 1:87 - Lightship
Very impressive brass work Nils, and your problem solving skills are second to none.
Nice progress.
B.E.
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from Retired guy in ELBE 1 1948 by Mirabell61 - scale 1:87 - Lightship
You surely do have the knack of finding lesser known subjects to model Nils, I too look forward to seeing this one develop.
B.E.
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from mtaylor in Chris Watton and Vanguard Models news and updates Volume 2
I gently rub the base on sandpaper until it is very thin, and then snip around the feet with sharp cutters, I suspect using a dremel would be overkill.
B.E.
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from scrubbyj427 in Chris Watton and Vanguard Models news and updates Volume 2
I gently rub the base on sandpaper until it is very thin, and then snip around the feet with sharp cutters, I suspect using a dremel would be overkill.
B.E.
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from Canute in Chris Watton and Vanguard Models news and updates Volume 2
I gently rub the base on sandpaper until it is very thin, and then snip around the feet with sharp cutters, I suspect using a dremel would be overkill.
B.E.
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from Freebird in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Cheers Guys, I will do a set of completion photos before I encase her, but the wooden framed glass case is very heavy compared to my previous acrylic covers, not very convenient for multiple off and ons, and all the associated risks involved.
@ Bug - A lot of the deck fittings are removeable including the rope coils, so these are taken off when cleaning.
I simply start at the top; firstly cleaning the rigging lines, then the masts and yards, using a soft paintbrush.
For the dust on the decks I pick it up with a soft brush and suck the dust with a hand held vacuum (Dyson) I finish off the outside of the hull.
Considering she has been uncased for many years she comes up pretty well, takes around 3hours + to do it.
2007a
Here she is stripped down for cleaning, built at a time before the availability and quality of fittings we have today she still remains one of my favourites.
Regards,
B.E.