michael101

Hello friends ,

i bought a lot from sat berlin any tools of proxxon 

but now its look like they dont sell proxxon anymore ...

someone know where is the best and cheap place to buy proxxon tools over Europa ?

im looking for  Delta sander OZI/E or Belt sander BS/E not sure what to choose .. i think the delta is better because you can cut with that machine also 

they have 14mm and 8mm blades/saw and for our hobby its will do very good job ..

Thank you Backer  

Beautiful work Pete !!!

Now im working on a new system for making block filler very easy 

i hop and it will work well and if so .. i will publish a little guide in my victory build log

about the wood im using the is : pine wood, i took the advice from my best friend Matti Pilola he also a member in that forum (one of the best builders )

and like i wrote God willing and it will work then i will publish the guide

Best regards ,

Michael. 

Thank you Ian , 

so the best way is to make the block fillers first without touching the bulkheads by fairing.. 

than to install the block and after all to start fairing ... 

is the same as i thought

Hellk Backer , 

yes the question is about the block fillers , but from your pictures i cant see if you fair the bulkheads before or after installing the blocks fillers 

Hello friends

I'm going to make the bow fillers in the bow and also on the second bulkhead 

but what is the order of the block fillers : firs to make the filers and than to fair the bulkheads or to fair the bulkhead and than to make the block filler?

i was thinking the best way is to make the bow fillers firs for getting a symmetrical line in both sides of the keel ...

but it will be better to hear that from someone how is did it before  

best regards 

Michael.

now I'm about starting the shape of the ship i mean the fairing progress , i want to do that before installing the patterns of the gun ports for not getting any damage on the patterns ...

i have ask before about the shape of the bow forward supports (40 – 42)

and after fairing... i got it straight with the bulkheads 1 and 2 

now the only problem is the level between bulkhead 1 to bulkhead 3 i mean the bulkhead no.2 is a bit up ...

i saw in all of the victory build logs the same level ! but I'm not sure if i need to put some plank on that bulkhead no.2 or to sand bulkhead no.3

for getting nice and smooth curve down the bow

here is the picture : 

A little update 

The building going a bit slowly because I'm working on the Ship Skeleton...

I come back late in the evening and do not have much power to work on the construction of the ship also the table saw making a lot of noise at the evening lol

most of my time build right now is in Friday that i have all a day free to build

here is some pictures of my progress , i installed blocks between the bulkheads also behind the barrel strip i glue some wood (1mm thick ) to push the strip outside in the slots ...

Thank you David ! 

In that picture there is the same level..

its mean that the keelson line is not the border line of the plank ? I mean when i will install the plank i will still see the whait aria okf the keel in the corner of the bow ... 

Hello friends

tomorrow i wont to work on the bow stage but i saw the the line of the second bulkhead that is going up of the keelson line also something looks a bit weird  with the line of the 

Thank you David  

Thank you David for the comment 

i asked you on the p.m about the dummy barrel strip (that has a 5mm thick )

how did you bend them ?

I was thinking of putting them in water but not sure if its a good idea because they will be fatter after that proses ..

and I'm not sure if they will go in the bulkheads holes nicely and smooth ...

so what did you do?

Hello Reach 

good to see you in my build log

thank you for your comment

and yes i will do that 4 plank shift on the lower deck , My observation about our hobby its to take the time and to work slowly and do my best on any stage ,

to be honest if i wanted to have that ship at home i could fined it on eBay ready to put it in the show box  but for me to have that ship in the show box its only a bonus 

and for sure you agree with me, my proof is your build log and you doing a best job ! 

Hello friends

i asked before in other post about the middle gun deck plank .. and i got some answers ,

but i just find in the constructions manuals the exact length and the distance between the beginning of plank one to the beginning of plank 2 I'm talking about four butt shift system

my question is if the middle gun deck has the same length ..?

here is the text from the manual about the upper gun deck :

a little update

today i glued the bulkheads in positions 

 i had to fix bulkhead no. 13 , and to put all of the bulkhead in position 

my advice : never trust the laser cut !!! check in the plans what is the highest of the water line or in our case the middle gun deck..

and hold the keel in 90 degrees to some board , and start measuring every bulkhead than double check all the walls/decks act.

For more accuracy i cut 2 pieces of 11 mm (the same size as the keelson that installed in the front ) and i have put on that to pieces of plywood and did the same thing in the bow i have put 2 pieces of plywood but without the extra pieces of the 11mm becouse there is a keelson , than i had enough space to put the 90 degrees ruler to check the bulkheads 

and because of that model its huge, i had to put all the bulkheads in the right place then i glue them from out side by timbers 

the deck is in , but without glue (not had time to glue that today )

my next stage before putting the patterns of the gun ports its to make it ready for fairing the hull proses 

by putting columns between the bulkheads i think to use 17mm plywood (that what i have in stock lol) but becoase the bulkheads are very big

i will make the wide of the columns 5cm wide by 17mm and to glue them in a diagonal position .. but will see  

Cheers 

Michael.

beautiful work !!!! 

Thank you Heinz!

i got  answer from caldercraft

i posted the answer in my build log 

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15501-hms-victory-by-michael101-caldercraft-scale-172/

Regards,

Michael.

Thank you David

i did the sanding in the firs stage 

by the way before sanding i made an external support for the corner of the keel 

in the manual they say that the secunde keelson will be install after doing the second plank ... 

its mean that aria of sanding will be without support because the L supports that i made on the construction board not going to support that aria 

they will touch the keel above the sanding aria , and the corner of the keel can get curve until you will finish plank the first plank

so first of all i cute some plywood same thick as the keel and same hight as the first keelson (11mm)

and drilled exactly in the middel of that plywood to the bottom of the keel then i connect the external plywood by brass pin 

and now the L support are holding the sanding aria exactly in the middle of the L supports

here some pictures :

and for the pillars for sure i will follow your advice ! 

Regards ,

Michael.

Hello Paul ,

thank you! , and that its true  not all the bulkhead going until the end of the keel ..

But On the secund question i was asking about the distance between the Decks 

take a look at the distance between the decks from the firs deck to the second deck is perfect, but from the secund to the third and also the third to the fourh is not the same as the plans ... 

any way like the disiner say above there is no problem ... you cant take the plan as a guide because the drawing showing cross section  

Thank you Nick

The answer for that is :

i have called caldercraft today and send them the pictures 

i have talk with the guy how design that ship and he told me the middle gun deck mast be 145 ! 

so the problem is the bulkhead and just need to sand the slot and also the bottom of that bulkhead

and i asked hem if need to sand all the down part of that bulkhead or only the corners

the answer is : only the corners of the bottom and he told me dont worry you will need to take a lot from that bulkhead doing the fairing  

also i have ask:

when i check the plans there is something wrong with the top of all bulkheads 

take a look at this pictures 

from the middle gun deck to the second deck its like in the plans but the third deck and the fourth deck is not suitable with the plans 

and he told me:

the drawing and bulkhead are both correct. The drawing is a cross section through the centreline of the ship and therefore shows the midline of the deck; due to the deck camber this point is higher than the reference point you are using on the bulkhead shown in your picture (the middle deck has no camber which is why it appears to align correctly)

hope its will help someone 

Best regards ,

Michael.

hello again

very important :

i got a little issue and it will be good to post that issues here : 

Hello everyone
With God's help I started building the HMS Victory last week

And I told myself that I must to make a build log this time

I appreciate any comments and tips...thanks.

Michael.

all the bulkheads are 14.5cm high(the part that touch the deck) but only bulkhead 13 is 14.6 cm 

here im attaching some pictures 

you also can see the compare with bulkhead 12 that the deck lines are flash but the bottom of 13 big than 12... 

 Hello friends 
Has anybody who is building Caldercraft Victory, encountered a problem with the bulkhead #13, which sits about 1 mm too high?