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Sounds like Metallica - Master of Buckets XXXDAn

Holy cow, we forgot the gun powder ... ... hurry-up, hurry up, I can already hear the sound of the starter ... ... and the smell of the cat´o´nine tails ... ... but how do we now get this stupid ball out of the barrel? ... XXXDAn

Thank you Sirs, very appreciated! @Mark: As usual, I will make them work! The starter is already waiting to bite the last man! XXXDAn

At the very beginning, I was desperately searching for crew. Still have the HÄT ones floating around some where ... ... but too big, too clumsy in form, too little and wrong positions ... ... then found the Preiser. First planed to make some and cast replicas - but first quite challenging casting in this scale and second, would have end up with a multitude of same positions. Now I know that the change goes quite fast and I can give them custom postures - just whatever their duty needs :-) Here some more pics from along the way. Last charge were too clean and were too lollypop-like on deck so I had to filthy them up in situ. Here the latest press with before and after, but remember, the originals are a mere 18 mm, this means the eye is more lenient :-) The last gentlemen is very serious about occupational safety - he got himself a jockstrap as the steel helmets to sit on were not invented yet ;-) Also some gents with an immigrant background are finally to be spotted, something documented quite often. XXXDAn

I did build and had some fun :-) http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/1487-by-the-deep-17-by-dafi-royal-navy-17801805-display/ XXXDAn

Last warning! ...tic-tac-tic-tac... ... be sure, the guided tour will continue :-) ...tic-tac-tic-tac... XXXDAn PS; Thank you all for the nice comments!

"... and swapping ideas over many more years i hope." Years? Decades! :-) XXXDAn

Hello Tim, nice to see this build here in all his glory! The first time I really see somebody taking over someone else´s build and really working on it! Makes me happy and Bob too I think! Good luck with it, all the best, Daniel

Thank you Sirs :-) @Frank: I found them on my cutting board underneath the scalpel ;-) XXXDAn

Straight after the manger, some man are fixing messenger and anchor cable to each other, called nibbing. For that there are no open ends traveling through the ship, I positioned a man at each free end of the nibbing rope walking with it. On the other side some men are bringing back the ropes to the bow. The next tricky job is to untie the nibbing cable in time before the anchor cable disappears in the cable tier. I took out the stairs of the companion way and still should have taken out the grating too, but unfortunately me stupid glued it too well in in my dim and distant past ... And now the messenger is free to travel back to the capstan to be hammered into place. Looks easy, doesn´t it? One only needs some men ;-) These are just some 40 men, in real life I would guess the double quantity, plus some supplements for special duties, possibly some 100 men altogether. Cheers, Daniel

Looks nice an clean from above, like an ant hill ... ... but deeper ... ... and even deeper, then, yes then one can understand that it was a tough job to do ... So here comes the same story, but from a different point of view: First there were the 120 man on the capstan on the middle deck, easy to remember. Then there were over 60 in the orlop in the cable tier to arrange the sturdy, wet and heavy cable into a neat coil, those ones are easy to be forgotten. And on the forecastle a larger number was preparing the davits and the fishing of the anchor, also a quite relevant number of man. But also on the lower gun deck there was quite a lot to be done. Lets start at the capstan, overhead on the middle deck 120 man are turning it without danger of stumbling over some cables. As the anchor cable is too thick and sturdy to go around the capstan, a messenger cable is used as a link. And here we go with some man to guarantee smooth and undisturbed revolutions. Starting at the capstan we can see Mr Thor with HIS hammer, checking the messenger hitting the right place. Next three man are making sure that the messenger is leaving the drum without getting stuck. Interesting are the heavy pillars with the rolls, protecting the pumps from the messenger. (picture from before assembly) The elm tree pump sucks seawater from underneath the hull and puts it with pressure into sail cloth hose (witch will be seen still) Left we see some men, that make sure, that the cable passes smoothly through the rolls hanging from the deck beams. As the messenger is a endless loop, it is linked by some ropes through the eyes. Two men make sure, the eyes pass through the rolls. In the bow the cable shiftes direction by the help of the two rollers. The manger is the place, where the hose ends. One man uses it to wetten the incoming anchor cable, two boys are scrubbing the mud off by the help of brushes. That is why there are two extra big scuppers at each side of the ship. If the cable had extra protection because of a stony sea bed, then this protection would have been taken off here too by some extra men.

Not only the ship, but also the anchor cable needs some love, care and tenderness. I already showed how the cable was meant to be laid out on the lower deck before letting the anchor go, how it was fastened by a whole variety of stoppers and how the messenger worked. But now I was interested into all the diverse steps coming with that ... First there were the 120 man on the capstan on the middle deck, easy to remember. Then there were over 60 in the orlop in the cable tier to arrange the sturdy, wet and heavy cable into a neat coil, those ones are easy to be forgotten. And on the forecastle a larger number was preparing the davits and the fishing of the anchor, also a quite relevant number of man. But also on the lower gun deck there was quite a lot to be done. So step by step, here is the overview: Lets start at the capstan, overhead on the middle deck 120 man are turning it without danger of stumbling over some cables. As the anchor cable is too thick and sturdy to go around the capstan, a messenger cable is used as a link. And here we go with some man to guarantee smooth and undisturbed revolutions. Starting at the capstan we can see Mr Thor with HIS hammer, checking the messenger hitting the right place. Next three man are making sure that the messenger is leaving the drum without getting stuck. Interesting are the heavy pillars with the rolls, protecting the pumps from the messenger. The elm tree pump sucks seawater from underneath the hull and put it with pressure into sail cloth hose (witch will be seen still) Left we see some men, that make sure, that the cable passes smoothly through the rolls hanging from the deck beams. As the messenger is a endless loop, it is linked by some ropes through the eyes. Two men make sure, the eyes pass through the rolls. In the bow the cable shiftes direction by the help of the two rollers. The manger is the place, where the hose ends. One man uses it to wetten the incoming anchor cable, two boys are scrubbing the mud off by the help of brushes. That is why there are two extra big scuppers at each side of the ship. If the cable had extra protection because of a stony sea bed, then this protection would have been taken off here too by some extra men. Straight after the manger, some man are fixing messenger and anchor cable to each other, called nibbing. For that there are no open ends traveling through the ship, I positioned a man at each free end of the nibbing rope walking with it. On the other side some men are bringing back the ropes to the bow. The next tricky job is to untie the nibbing cable in time before the anchor cable disappears in the cable tier. I took out the stairs of the companion way and still should have taken out the grating too, but unfortunately me stupid glued it too well in my dim and distant past ... And now the messenger is free to travel back to the capstan to be hammered into place. Cheers Daniel

Hy Steve, that would have been my hint too. For better understanding, he is working on two hulls there: one fresh one that he basically pimps up and one already build oob from E-Bay as reference - so do not get confused, he is comparing them quite often :-) XXXDAn

Ok, back home, the small one is tired from the trip and sleeping already and I got already another helping more ... ... why that now ?!?!? XXXDAn

It can be difficult to be on holidays with the small ones. - Are we already there? - I have to do pipi! - I am Hungry! - I am bored! *bitchingaround* But this has not to be like this! The trick is to get the small ones interested into the trip and get them enthusiastic about it. With a little bit of commitment it is not that tricky ... ... so I showed my small one the landcape ... ...explained where I was the day before ... ... and promised to take her there the day she will be big enough. Also zoos are a winner ... ... she especially liked the two rheas. Or just doing a bit of sport together ... ... ping-pong was the favorite ... ... but the most important ... ... was ... ... just to spend time together ... ... telling stories ... ... about god the universe and everything ... ... and both of us already found a good and relaxing sleep together :-) It is a tough and responsible job to be a good ship-dad, but I hope that I am on the right way, are you too? Cheers, Daniel

@Old Collingwood I think all "simple" paints always will look flat. To get it alive the way you want, just try all different ways of aging and weathering that you can get hold on in the internet and see what suits best your skills and taste. Best is to get some cheap "test" hulls from the net and try yourself through the various technics, that is what I usually do :-) Cheers, Daniel

Hello OC, thank you for the kind words. in my humble opinion, the best is always a priming with a pale brown or gray and then give a nic´ce wash with oil or casein paint. As I am no expert in those technics, i Used real planking, just have a google. In this build and "by the deep 17" there is shown the casein paint for the hull. XXXDAn

Not only small ships had this, even to be seen on the Victory. +Cheers, Daniel

Thank you Jan :-) Being on holiday in Austria, I took the chance to give a little air to my sweet roundy one with the funny stripes and to visit some friends. Of course first had to repair some battle damages ... ... but then had some great fun discussing all things model making ... ... big, small ... ... and medium sized. Also present was some happy metal aka armored vehicles ... ... from Walter - on the right side - and one of his wonderful planes ... Re: M60A3 im UN-Einsatz (1:35 - Academy, DEF, Legend) - Kette 2. Versuch - ... and we had a sneak preview upon Karl´s magnificent 1:350 RJN Agaki ... ... with all the details front ... ... and back. More from Karl tremendous work to be found here, even though in german, the pictures speak for themselves: Re: Japanischer Flugzeugträger AKAGI (Hasegawa, 1/350) - 28. Update Re: Japanischer Flugzeugträger AKAGI (Hasegawa, 1/350) - 29. Update Re: Das Titanicwrack - Teil 1: das Vorschiff (Minicraft, 1/350) - 39. Update- fertig http://www.modellboard.net/index.php?topic=44814.0 http://www.modellmarine.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3406:tauchgang-zum-wrack-der-titanic-im-massstab-1350&catid=454:karl-kapelari Cheers, Daniel

And the pressgang was in town ... ... and the first ones already had to report to duty ... ... dirty bastards ... XXXDAn

"I was wondering if anyone had tried acetal. For the upper parts." Just try out and show :-) XXXDAn

Here the difference between Heller and wood - the jib boom: I think too, the lower mast will do the job - especially if stauffed with wood or metal - , but I will replace all the other sections. XXXDAn

Sad but true - but I really believe it to be correct ... ... The rigols replaced by triangles, the lines destroyed by the augmented bulwark, the ridiculous proportions of the masts and spars, the missing of half of the shrouds, the round bow with the lines going round, the iron hawses, the scuttles for the orlop with triangular "rigols", the closed waist with the garden sheds atop, and the missing bulkheads under the poop ... ... yes that was meant to be the Vic, plenty of photographs show this. XXXDAn

Bob: I simply LOVE it! Heave! (Quist:) Five years hard labor, the judge says to me... ...or honorable service in His Majesty's Navy. What did I pick? Hornblower. ... (Sailor:) What are we doing in the Pacific, anyway? I tell you, he's got us all lost. ... (Quist:) There's islands there where we could have a picnic. Brown-skinned girls, bread growing on trees, where the Bounty went. Why don't you ask Hornblower to take us there? What's wrong with our cargo doing the asking? Muskets and ammunition. Who for? Why not for us? Link: Look here at the still from about 3:00 min Harrison: Come on, get on with your work. Get on with it. These are the things that makes a little dafi happy :-) XXXDAn

YELLOWBEARD - that reminds me to see THAT holy grail again. But still looking for THE other classic :-) XXXDAn