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That is my Tic-Tac, man :-) As many countries do not know the size of different coins of other ones - they vary largely in between the countries and values - the Tic-Tac is standardized so it gives a good scale for all countries. :-) Cheers, Daniel

Nice build! XXXDAn

Some more petiteness: The salt box for the cartridges ... ... used my etch monograms and pressed them with my vice into the wood to be more leveled, nice side effect is that they became less high :-) Glued the fittings and afterwards some red paint - careful, explosive! The buckets from Master of Buckets were wooden ones from the lath with brass eyelets and copper handles, for the small ones I wanted to try something else. 2 mm poly rod, drilled open and milled out ... ... and then shaped them with a conical device pressed into it. Then cut and filled with PVC and we have a nice water bucket for the small boy, that is supposed to have a wet wipe up on all remains of powder on the floor. Then I realised - too much space - pillars were missing ... Tja und dann etwas bemerkt: Soo viel Platz war da gar nicht Mal, denn das dafi hatte in seiner großen Weitsicht noch nicht die Stützen platziert ... ... so I had to replace some of the stuff Two more shots for the subject: red salt box for the cartridge, round transport case, wad, multi purpose water bucket and a barrel with slow burning matches in case the flint lock does not work, everything as far off the guns as possible. In P. the wads are hanging in a netting in between the hammocks, I omitted that, as there was not enough space for that. XXXDAn

Thank you Druxey and wq. wq, I meant the small air scuttles on the lower Deck lids. The lid itself is clear that the lanyards were used and the inboard rings to secure the lid for seagoing. Achilles gave me in the german forum a hint to the slider, used on some of the scuttle lids on the display in Portsmouth.For some reasons do not believe it to be the original solution ... Druxey My first reaction too was some kind of bolt with rope or a rope nailed into the lid. Seeing the way the scuttles are worked on Endeavour was a hint, but it would only work to close and keep them closed by lashing it somewhere. One can push them open, but how do they stay open? Alex M brought into the game a hook, that secured into the scuttle link would allow to open, keep open, close and seal the small lid. I know this system from my grandmas windows in her very old house. But still nothing than those hints ... ... any better contemporary sources known? XXXDan

Coming along nicely .-) XXXDan

Nice build .-) Daniel

It is right, the stiches on the seams themselves usually are not visible, due to the almost same color as the cloth. What one sees is the different transparency because of the doubling of the material in these area. Looking forward for the reports on this material ! Cheers, Daniel

Wonderful work on the sails!!! Love it :-) XXXDAn

Lovely build :-) XXXDan

When I was working on the gunport lids of the lower deck of my Vic a question arose: How to close the little scuttle? They can be pushed open but how to close them? I arranged them in a way, that a wave from the front would smash them closed, but what to do on a calm sea? I believe there should be a ringbolt for a rope, or a rope nailed onto it, otherwise there should be no way of closing it - apart of waiting for an angry sea ;-) Also this should be the way of securing the scuttle lid for high seas. Is there any informations about this detail available? Cheers and thanks, Daniel

Why-why-why?!? ... did I loose this gem out of sight ... Just three words: Fun, Tas and Tique Love the outcome of the stove, the pumps and all the other things. Thanks too for sharing the techniques, very interesting things, the rivet punchers, depth ranger for the kebap skewers and much mores. Cheers, Daniel

And then the assembly, taking measure by putting the lid on the barrel, marking the positions with a needle ... ... drilling and fitting test. Still missing the lanyards . Took my drilled and streched sprue ... ... a template gives the right distances ... ... open the holes with drills step by step ... ... introduced the tubes ... ... still spliced the lanyards to the rings and introduced them into the tubes ... ... and with some luck ... ... one gets ... ... something like that. XXXDAn

The nice thing on a project like this is, that one can find so many small models that coincidentally gives a nice Vic. One of those things are the gunport lids, haven´t yet tried the lower gunport lids with the scuttles :-) First preparing parts and erasing the wooden grains and old fittings ... ... and think. First doubling for extra thickness. Did not want to cut the hole before assembly for positioning reasons. So made a steel stamp and used it first to give a color mark on the appropriate place. Used a 1 mm drill to give the depth and a scalpel for approx. shape and then used the stamp for the right form. Gives a nice and crisp edges and also flattens the bottom of the hole. Then used my etch parts ... ... the parts can be positioned easily, the split line for the scuttle was cut with scalpel and needle ... ... and first color test. Than tinkered the rings out of etch eyebolts and 0,2 mm copper thread ... ... and folded lovingly together by the help of two pliers. Still showed the planking , mounted the rings and imitated the bolts from the fittings ... ... and done.

Sounds like Metallica - Master of Buckets XXXDAn

Holy cow, we forgot the gun powder ... ... hurry-up, hurry up, I can already hear the sound of the starter ... ... and the smell of the cat´o´nine tails ... ... but how do we now get this stupid ball out of the barrel? ... XXXDAn

Thank you Sirs, very appreciated! @Mark: As usual, I will make them work! The starter is already waiting to bite the last man! XXXDAn

At the very beginning, I was desperately searching for crew. Still have the HÄT ones floating around some where ... ... but too big, too clumsy in form, too little and wrong positions ... ... then found the Preiser. First planed to make some and cast replicas - but first quite challenging casting in this scale and second, would have end up with a multitude of same positions. Now I know that the change goes quite fast and I can give them custom postures - just whatever their duty needs :-) Here some more pics from along the way. Last charge were too clean and were too lollypop-like on deck so I had to filthy them up in situ. Here the latest press with before and after, but remember, the originals are a mere 18 mm, this means the eye is more lenient :-) The last gentlemen is very serious about occupational safety - he got himself a jockstrap as the steel helmets to sit on were not invented yet ;-) Also some gents with an immigrant background are finally to be spotted, something documented quite often. XXXDAn

I did build and had some fun :-) http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/1487-by-the-deep-17-by-dafi-royal-navy-17801805-display/ XXXDAn

Last warning! ...tic-tac-tic-tac... ... be sure, the guided tour will continue :-) ...tic-tac-tic-tac... XXXDAn PS; Thank you all for the nice comments!

"... and swapping ideas over many more years i hope." Years? Decades! :-) XXXDAn

Hello Tim, nice to see this build here in all his glory! The first time I really see somebody taking over someone else´s build and really working on it! Makes me happy and Bob too I think! Good luck with it, all the best, Daniel

Thank you Sirs :-) @Frank: I found them on my cutting board underneath the scalpel ;-) XXXDAn

Straight after the manger, some man are fixing messenger and anchor cable to each other, called nibbing. For that there are no open ends traveling through the ship, I positioned a man at each free end of the nibbing rope walking with it. On the other side some men are bringing back the ropes to the bow. The next tricky job is to untie the nibbing cable in time before the anchor cable disappears in the cable tier. I took out the stairs of the companion way and still should have taken out the grating too, but unfortunately me stupid glued it too well in in my dim and distant past ... And now the messenger is free to travel back to the capstan to be hammered into place. Looks easy, doesn´t it? One only needs some men ;-) These are just some 40 men, in real life I would guess the double quantity, plus some supplements for special duties, possibly some 100 men altogether. Cheers, Daniel

Looks nice an clean from above, like an ant hill ... ... but deeper ... ... and even deeper, then, yes then one can understand that it was a tough job to do ... So here comes the same story, but from a different point of view: First there were the 120 man on the capstan on the middle deck, easy to remember. Then there were over 60 in the orlop in the cable tier to arrange the sturdy, wet and heavy cable into a neat coil, those ones are easy to be forgotten. And on the forecastle a larger number was preparing the davits and the fishing of the anchor, also a quite relevant number of man. But also on the lower gun deck there was quite a lot to be done. Lets start at the capstan, overhead on the middle deck 120 man are turning it without danger of stumbling over some cables. As the anchor cable is too thick and sturdy to go around the capstan, a messenger cable is used as a link. And here we go with some man to guarantee smooth and undisturbed revolutions. Starting at the capstan we can see Mr Thor with HIS hammer, checking the messenger hitting the right place. Next three man are making sure that the messenger is leaving the drum without getting stuck. Interesting are the heavy pillars with the rolls, protecting the pumps from the messenger. (picture from before assembly) The elm tree pump sucks seawater from underneath the hull and puts it with pressure into sail cloth hose (witch will be seen still) Left we see some men, that make sure, that the cable passes smoothly through the rolls hanging from the deck beams. As the messenger is a endless loop, it is linked by some ropes through the eyes. Two men make sure, the eyes pass through the rolls. In the bow the cable shiftes direction by the help of the two rollers. The manger is the place, where the hose ends. One man uses it to wetten the incoming anchor cable, two boys are scrubbing the mud off by the help of brushes. That is why there are two extra big scuppers at each side of the ship. If the cable had extra protection because of a stony sea bed, then this protection would have been taken off here too by some extra men.

Not only the ship, but also the anchor cable needs some love, care and tenderness. I already showed how the cable was meant to be laid out on the lower deck before letting the anchor go, how it was fastened by a whole variety of stoppers and how the messenger worked. But now I was interested into all the diverse steps coming with that ... First there were the 120 man on the capstan on the middle deck, easy to remember. Then there were over 60 in the orlop in the cable tier to arrange the sturdy, wet and heavy cable into a neat coil, those ones are easy to be forgotten. And on the forecastle a larger number was preparing the davits and the fishing of the anchor, also a quite relevant number of man. But also on the lower gun deck there was quite a lot to be done. So step by step, here is the overview: Lets start at the capstan, overhead on the middle deck 120 man are turning it without danger of stumbling over some cables. As the anchor cable is too thick and sturdy to go around the capstan, a messenger cable is used as a link. And here we go with some man to guarantee smooth and undisturbed revolutions. Starting at the capstan we can see Mr Thor with HIS hammer, checking the messenger hitting the right place. Next three man are making sure that the messenger is leaving the drum without getting stuck. Interesting are the heavy pillars with the rolls, protecting the pumps from the messenger. The elm tree pump sucks seawater from underneath the hull and put it with pressure into sail cloth hose (witch will be seen still) Left we see some men, that make sure, that the cable passes smoothly through the rolls hanging from the deck beams. As the messenger is a endless loop, it is linked by some ropes through the eyes. Two men make sure, the eyes pass through the rolls. In the bow the cable shiftes direction by the help of the two rollers. The manger is the place, where the hose ends. One man uses it to wetten the incoming anchor cable, two boys are scrubbing the mud off by the help of brushes. That is why there are two extra big scuppers at each side of the ship. If the cable had extra protection because of a stony sea bed, then this protection would have been taken off here too by some extra men. Straight after the manger, some man are fixing messenger and anchor cable to each other, called nibbing. For that there are no open ends traveling through the ship, I positioned a man at each free end of the nibbing rope walking with it. On the other side some men are bringing back the ropes to the bow. The next tricky job is to untie the nibbing cable in time before the anchor cable disappears in the cable tier. I took out the stairs of the companion way and still should have taken out the grating too, but unfortunately me stupid glued it too well in my dim and distant past ... And now the messenger is free to travel back to the capstan to be hammered into place. Cheers Daniel