Gaetan Bordeleau
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Tung oil is more refine oil than danish oil. Tung oil instantly ''age '' the look of the wood. It does not build up like danish oil. Very easy to apply, just wipe the excess. Finally, one important reason, when you take a photo, there are no shining spots as you could see often with danish oil. I thought that tung oil was made with tung nuts growing in China.- 942 replies
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This picture was taken in 2010. I was examining some woods to the microscope to try to understand the meaning of a clean edge.
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Thank you for your comments. Now here are the results of my little test with 3 different level of camera: webcam Life cam from Microsoft, small portable Nikon Coolpix and standard camera from Canon. Best shots are from the cheapest, the webcam even if colors are not so good. One of the reason is the fact that with the webcam, the photo can be seen on a program before to take it. This is very helpful. This advantage is not present with the 2 other camera. Microsoft first 2 and Nikon the others:
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Live animals for the officers only. The ladder clears the rope but not really for the oven. Anyway that cable was only use to rise the anchor cable.
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Webcam pictures; colors very bad, point of view appropriate, depth of field interesting
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The joints on French keel are all horizontal. I believe an horizontal joint is stronger because it could support more weight than a vertical joint. In french the name is trait de Jupiter. If you look this title on Internet, this type of joint is always horizontal.
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''That one tickles my fancy too, as well as the French 'Fleuron' and the 'L'Ambitieux' as described by J. Boudriot.'' Peter, I will give another opinion about your taste for Le Fleuron: I would recommend you not to choose this model. Plans were drawn very fast and are not enough detailed. They are also drawn with the presumption that you are already familiar with the french methods and that you already own some books from Boudriot especially the 74 guns even if it is almost 50 years later. The beauty of this forum is that you can save a lot of mistakes if you just ask before to do it. You will be surprise to see how many peoples knows the answer to your interrogations.
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Peter you can still use beech. You choose it probably for a $ reason. In fact the main reason you should choose a wood is because of their properties and mainly because you like it. If I would be at your place, I would consider 2 options: beech or (cherry or pear) 2 reasons should guide you: the price that you are ready to invest and the result you want to achieve; cherry or pear will have a better visual effect than beech. I remember in the first forum MSW 1,0, there was a guy who always used basswood and he loved it. The end result are comparable with what you could get with beech. It is exactly the same thing as taking a picture. If you move all the edges will be blurred. If you do not move all the edges will be nice and crisp. If I want to do a figure head in balsa, it will be impossible to get nice and clean edges because the wood grain is too soft. It is the same thing with beech. At the other end, boxwood will produce extremely clean edges.
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Tom, technically, beech is a hardwood with a density which can go up to ,74 practically, beech is acting as a softwood for ship models with a density as low as ,50 Wood fibers are not very close as real exotic hardwood with a density multiplied by 2. For a small scale, beech has no crisp edges, if you magnify one edge you would see fiber going every way and not close to the edges and just for this reason, it is enough to discard it, at least for north american species.
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2 observations; 1) one side of the hull (port side) will be completely planked; 2) the other side (starboard) will show how the hull was built - all frames, half frames, etc.; but no planks on the outside; 3) at the starboard side I will cut strategic openings to show specific scenes going on inside the hull; the usual way to represent is the contrary I will be building this ship using beech here in Canada, beech is a softwood not suitable for models; no clean edges means it will not take small details
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Very nice build. I especially like the effort you bring for the colors. I guess at the end you would put the model in the Museum and everybody would think it was always there.
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Sequence of Gun Installation 1- gun on deck 2- ropes 3- rope coil maker 4- Compare in red; gun angle and in green; rope angle Because the nail with eye shape must be install on a deck beam, this cause strange alignment. Ideally a deck beam should be straight in line with the middle on the gun opening but sometimes other consideration have priority. 5-6 guns installed 7- Small cameras to take pictures inside. I still have to compare with a small portable camera 8- All the parts on the first deck are ready, still just to install to complete the first deck.
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New mini-mill... CNC and impressive
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To make it short, there are 3 kinds of lathe small, tool room and industrial. Small: watchmaker's lathe, easy to handle, max turning in 1 pass 0,001'' with micro moves to turn the handles. These lathe are made to turn small parts. Toolroom: standard turning in 1 pass 0,01'' means 10 times faster than the small one, not made to be move. Emco lathe is a perfect example. These lathe can as well turn small parts. Personally I do not like to use a small lathe, too long to turn a part! I have a big lathe for precision work but my preferred one is the tool room which is the most versatile with accessories. The same thing would be possible with the big lathe but the price would be bigger too. I bought a used Myford Super 7 from UK and had it ship by plane in Canada. A small lathe can easily cost $1000. For the used Myford, I paid $900, the weight was about 225 pounds. I did a lot of tools with this lathe and a milling machine. Usually everybody buy a lathe before a milling machine. When you build metal tools, a milling machine will be more useful than the lathe. Do you really need a milling machine for wood? The answer is easy and is No. The milling machine was created to mill metal not wood. But still there are few occasions where a milling machine can be useful like turning 6 sides in a winch frame. These occasions are very limited. to make the buying of a milling machine profitable, we find other occasions but most of the these occasions, a wood tool will do it.
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Dust collection and extraction
Gaetan Bordeleau replied to Trussben's topic in Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment
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Brunel's blockmaking machinery at Portsmouth interesting, I did not know about this. It should be interesting to know how it works. 14 different types of machines were needed to carry out all the processes to make the blocks.
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Hi Greg, I doubt it, There was someone on the french forum who tried to make a machine partly with a lathe but it was not a success.
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Applied colors to the guns and turned out very well. The last time I used black oxyde I cleaned chemically the guns before and had a lot of trouble so I did use it this time and the color turned perfect. For the carriage, possibly the color could be a lighter red but I decided to go a shade darker because when blood dries it is in a darker shade. I wanted to try Alex method for mass production of pulleys. For the guns of the seond deck I need about 100, so it is not really faster. For mass production it assures the same curves in each ones. Also included a profile of the shape of the pulley. This really facilitates further operarions . The most difficult is to turn an exact profile for the 2 V curves required. On the drawing the first cutter is use on 1 and 2. The second cutter is use on 3 and 4. This part is often not done when making pulleys Last parts, reddish brown color for the pulleys and the ropes to complete the last parts needed to complete the guns of the first deck. To make a perfect pulley is not an easy task. The best ones I saw in 25 years came from A french House name S.T.A.B. All the curves were perfect and the blocks were made from boxwood. These were made by a machine, but what this machine looked like, I guess it will be a secret for still a long time.
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the issue is the unusual kind of material the thread is made
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Hi Fam In July 1778, French did the first coppering on the frigate l' Iphigénie, imitating the English. Copper was coming from Hambourg, Germany. There are 2 ways to copper the hull, the easy way and the hard way. The easy way is back to front and bottom to top. The hard way, the real method is described in Tome 3, last pages of the 74 guns by Jean Boudriot. This subject comes back often, you probably also can use the search button.
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The last method for centering a square part is quite precise. If you put it in a lathe collet it will be even more precise. This is how it is made in jewelry. Jewelers can teach us a lot of technics.
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To turn the axle for a square, there is no need to use the 4 jaw chuck. You just need to insert the square axle in a brass tubing. To be able to apply pressure without deforming the brass tubing, 2 cuts in line are enough.
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