Gaetan Bordeleau

If you give 1 point for every good guess made about an 17th ship construction like Soleil Royal
and you give 1 point for every good guess for an 18th ship construction like the 74 guns
Plus, if we subtract 1 point for every wrong guess
 
Who would be the winner?

If you give 1 point for every good guess made about an 17th ship construction like Soleil Royal
and you give 1 point for every good guess for an 18th ship construction like the 74 guns
Plus, if we subtract 1 point for every wrong guess
 
Who would be the winner?

There is no good or bad answers in choosing cutter or rotary tool, it remains a personal choice  a matter of preferences.
 
Which ones will produce cleaner edges,  gives more nerve to the work? Only knife  or both?
 
Here is an example of rotary work :
 
https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15340-74-guns-ship-by-gaetan-bordeleau-124/&page=9
 

Neko, you built miniature cutters and you show us that you will have the necessary skill to produce nice carvings. Sculpture is an art you can learn, but you need to have basics talents. I would say that the most important tool would be the proportions. The last ones I did were for the Fleuron which also appeared in this forum.
 
If I could suggest 1 helping hint for carving, it would be to try rotary burrs and for the smallest ones, dental burrs. There is a learning curves in using tools. In carving, we begin with knives but a knife is harder to control than a rotary burr. You need to exercise strength and control his dosage. With rotary burs... you need no strength to control it, the tool has the power and you concentrate all your talent on the carving.

Hi Albert, thank you to show your good work.
 
On the photo, you have 2 milling machine from Proxxon.
Is the FF230 much better than the MF70, is there a big difference between these 2?

Hi Albert, thank you to show your good work.
 
On the photo, you have 2 milling machine from Proxxon.
Is the FF230 much better than the MF70, is there a big difference between these 2?

Thank you Tony, to build metal parts, is one of the many aspects of the model ship builder.  To be a model ship builder, you need to understand many kinds of works and it is extremely difficult to master all of these. Model ship building can take an infinite variety of roads. We often modelers who are very good in few departments and this is why many modelers are recognizable by their work and their style. In my case, I just like to build a part of the ship and especially inside and take some photos.
 
Let's come back on the channels. There is one interesting part on the mizzen channel. I think it is a very example to show how Boudriot worked. There is an iron hand just over the mizzen mast. There are 3 drawings showing it. In the index, it refers to vol. 2 fig.123 p.34. We could say that we have a   general idea of the part to begin and when we are ready to fabricate it, we go to the "construction drawing". I do not know how many years it took to write the 4 books for the 74 guns but it was surely more than one. I often saw  a part represented many times through the books and often at different stage of construction and sometimes there is only 1 drawing showing the final or the correct  way it was done. To say  that all the other are wrong is not necessary true.
 
On the figure 123, I have some difficulties to understand why they built it this way, floating just over the mizzen channel, instead of being fix on or under it, and this even though, there is a support bracket to hold it.

I think you ask yourself the wrong question.
Where could I find good tools for the model ship maker?
The first place you could try are the jewelry tools.

Thank you Tony, to build metal parts, is one of the many aspects of the model ship builder.  To be a model ship builder, you need to understand many kinds of works and it is extremely difficult to master all of these. Model ship building can take an infinite variety of roads. We often modelers who are very good in few departments and this is why many modelers are recognizable by their work and their style. In my case, I just like to build a part of the ship and especially inside and take some photos.
 
Let's come back on the channels. There is one interesting part on the mizzen channel. I think it is a very example to show how Boudriot worked. There is an iron hand just over the mizzen mast. There are 3 drawings showing it. In the index, it refers to vol. 2 fig.123 p.34. We could say that we have a   general idea of the part to begin and when we are ready to fabricate it, we go to the "construction drawing". I do not know how many years it took to write the 4 books for the 74 guns but it was surely more than one. I often saw  a part represented many times through the books and often at different stage of construction and sometimes there is only 1 drawing showing the final or the correct  way it was done. To say  that all the other are wrong is not necessary true.
 
On the figure 123, I have some difficulties to understand why they built it this way, floating just over the mizzen channel, instead of being fix on or under it, and this even though, there is a support bracket to hold it.

Thank you Tony, to build metal parts, is one of the many aspects of the model ship builder.  To be a model ship builder, you need to understand many kinds of works and it is extremely difficult to master all of these. Model ship building can take an infinite variety of roads. We often modelers who are very good in few departments and this is why many modelers are recognizable by their work and their style. In my case, I just like to build a part of the ship and especially inside and take some photos.
 
Let's come back on the channels. There is one interesting part on the mizzen channel. I think it is a very example to show how Boudriot worked. There is an iron hand just over the mizzen mast. There are 3 drawings showing it. In the index, it refers to vol. 2 fig.123 p.34. We could say that we have a   general idea of the part to begin and when we are ready to fabricate it, we go to the "construction drawing". I do not know how many years it took to write the 4 books for the 74 guns but it was surely more than one. I often saw  a part represented many times through the books and often at different stage of construction and sometimes there is only 1 drawing showing the final or the correct  way it was done. To say  that all the other are wrong is not necessary true.
 
On the figure 123, I have some difficulties to understand why they built it this way, floating just over the mizzen channel, instead of being fix on or under it, and this even though, there is a support bracket to hold it.

Thank you Albert,
 
Beginning the nicest room on the ship.
 
Building walls is fun, making tools also. One of the reasons I did tools, especially for the lathe and milling is simply, because I could not afford all these tools at the time. I like to watch video on You tube, and often about tools. Recently, I saw one where to hold the part which was too large for a live center in the tailstock, the guy did adapt a 4 jaw chuck as a live center. I like the idea, because it is unusual to see a 4 jaw chuck at the opposite end of the lathe, soI tried it.
 

I bought  what I think is the same wood also about 30 years ago. I still have a few pieces. I took a photo of one near boxwood.
Palo blanco was the name if I remember well.
 

I think you ask yourself the wrong question.
Where could I find good tools for the model ship maker?
The first place you could try are the jewelry tools.

I bought  what I think is the same wood also about 30 years ago. I still have a few pieces. I took a photo of one near boxwood.
Palo blanco was the name if I remember well.
 

South American or castelo boxwood (Calycophyllum multiflorum) is also known as palo blanco or ivorywood. 

I bought  what I think is the same wood also about 30 years ago. I still have a few pieces. I took a photo of one near boxwood.
Palo blanco was the name if I remember well.
 

Accuracy and ruler can be very much different.
A ruler with 1/64":  0,015"
To measure with accuracy, you need to first make sure that the tool you use is calibrated by measuring a standard measurement; a gage block.
Different precision grades of gage block are available; ,001, ,0001, ,000004, etc.
Calipers are good for ,001", micrometers can easily measure ,0001".
Even if calipers are made to read ,001", it is very easy to apply the wrong pressure and to get a wrong measure. The easiest way to know how much pressure to apply is by measuring a gage block.
 
For model ship building, construction with wood does not need a micrometer.
Calipers are very useful to measure the thickness of board.
For the daily use, a ruler is perfect and 1/32" is easy to use
1/64 is much harder to use, you need a sharp pencil and it is very easy to trace the line  next to the division.
In fact it is easier to use 1/32 and to be relatively sure of the measure than using 1/64 and to have doubts about it's accuracy.
 
photo of my favorite ruler for daily use

Accuracy and ruler can be very much different.
A ruler with 1/64":  0,015"
To measure with accuracy, you need to first make sure that the tool you use is calibrated by measuring a standard measurement; a gage block.
Different precision grades of gage block are available; ,001, ,0001, ,000004, etc.
Calipers are good for ,001", micrometers can easily measure ,0001".
Even if calipers are made to read ,001", it is very easy to apply the wrong pressure and to get a wrong measure. The easiest way to know how much pressure to apply is by measuring a gage block.
 
For model ship building, construction with wood does not need a micrometer.
Calipers are very useful to measure the thickness of board.
For the daily use, a ruler is perfect and 1/32" is easy to use
1/64 is much harder to use, you need a sharp pencil and it is very easy to trace the line  next to the division.
In fact it is easier to use 1/32 and to be relatively sure of the measure than using 1/64 and to have doubts about it's accuracy.
 
photo of my favorite ruler for daily use

Accuracy and ruler can be very much different.
A ruler with 1/64":  0,015"
To measure with accuracy, you need to first make sure that the tool you use is calibrated by measuring a standard measurement; a gage block.
Different precision grades of gage block are available; ,001, ,0001, ,000004, etc.
Calipers are good for ,001", micrometers can easily measure ,0001".
Even if calipers are made to read ,001", it is very easy to apply the wrong pressure and to get a wrong measure. The easiest way to know how much pressure to apply is by measuring a gage block.
 
For model ship building, construction with wood does not need a micrometer.
Calipers are very useful to measure the thickness of board.
For the daily use, a ruler is perfect and 1/32" is easy to use
1/64 is much harder to use, you need a sharp pencil and it is very easy to trace the line  next to the division.
In fact it is easier to use 1/32 and to be relatively sure of the measure than using 1/64 and to have doubts about it's accuracy.
 
photo of my favorite ruler for daily use

Thank you Tony, to build metal parts, is one of the many aspects of the model ship builder.  To be a model ship builder, you need to understand many kinds of works and it is extremely difficult to master all of these. Model ship building can take an infinite variety of roads. We often modelers who are very good in few departments and this is why many modelers are recognizable by their work and their style. In my case, I just like to build a part of the ship and especially inside and take some photos.
 
Let's come back on the channels. There is one interesting part on the mizzen channel. I think it is a very example to show how Boudriot worked. There is an iron hand just over the mizzen mast. There are 3 drawings showing it. In the index, it refers to vol. 2 fig.123 p.34. We could say that we have a   general idea of the part to begin and when we are ready to fabricate it, we go to the "construction drawing". I do not know how many years it took to write the 4 books for the 74 guns but it was surely more than one. I often saw  a part represented many times through the books and often at different stage of construction and sometimes there is only 1 drawing showing the final or the correct  way it was done. To say  that all the other are wrong is not necessary true.
 
On the figure 123, I have some difficulties to understand why they built it this way, floating just over the mizzen channel, instead of being fix on or under it, and this even though, there is a support bracket to hold it.

Thank you Brian
 
but there are also angles which look bad. Photography can be a great liar. The lens sees completely different things than what the human eye sees but fortunately for us, sometime it looks good and often it is just a matter of luck.

Thank you Albert,
 
Beginning the nicest room on the ship.
 
Building walls is fun, making tools also. One of the reasons I did tools, especially for the lathe and milling is simply, because I could not afford all these tools at the time. I like to watch video on You tube, and often about tools. Recently, I saw one where to hold the part which was too large for a live center in the tailstock, the guy did adapt a 4 jaw chuck as a live center. I like the idea, because it is unusual to see a 4 jaw chuck at the opposite end of the lathe, soI tried it.
 

Working on the channels and the next chapter of sharpening not a knife this time but a flat surface.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Thank you Tony, to build metal parts, is one of the many aspects of the model ship builder.  To be a model ship builder, you need to understand many kinds of works and it is extremely difficult to master all of these. Model ship building can take an infinite variety of roads. We often modelers who are very good in few departments and this is why many modelers are recognizable by their work and their style. In my case, I just like to build a part of the ship and especially inside and take some photos.
 
Let's come back on the channels. There is one interesting part on the mizzen channel. I think it is a very example to show how Boudriot worked. There is an iron hand just over the mizzen mast. There are 3 drawings showing it. In the index, it refers to vol. 2 fig.123 p.34. We could say that we have a   general idea of the part to begin and when we are ready to fabricate it, we go to the "construction drawing". I do not know how many years it took to write the 4 books for the 74 guns but it was surely more than one. I often saw  a part represented many times through the books and often at different stage of construction and sometimes there is only 1 drawing showing the final or the correct  way it was done. To say  that all the other are wrong is not necessary true.
 
On the figure 123, I have some difficulties to understand why they built it this way, floating just over the mizzen channel, instead of being fix on or under it, and this even though, there is a support bracket to hold it.

Thank you Tony, to build metal parts, is one of the many aspects of the model ship builder.  To be a model ship builder, you need to understand many kinds of works and it is extremely difficult to master all of these. Model ship building can take an infinite variety of roads. We often modelers who are very good in few departments and this is why many modelers are recognizable by their work and their style. In my case, I just like to build a part of the ship and especially inside and take some photos.
 
Let's come back on the channels. There is one interesting part on the mizzen channel. I think it is a very example to show how Boudriot worked. There is an iron hand just over the mizzen mast. There are 3 drawings showing it. In the index, it refers to vol. 2 fig.123 p.34. We could say that we have a   general idea of the part to begin and when we are ready to fabricate it, we go to the "construction drawing". I do not know how many years it took to write the 4 books for the 74 guns but it was surely more than one. I often saw  a part represented many times through the books and often at different stage of construction and sometimes there is only 1 drawing showing the final or the correct  way it was done. To say  that all the other are wrong is not necessary true.
 
On the figure 123, I have some difficulties to understand why they built it this way, floating just over the mizzen channel, instead of being fix on or under it, and this even though, there is a support bracket to hold it.