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Roger Pellett got a reaction from slow2cool in Chaperon 1894 by Mike Dowling - FINISHED - Model Shipways - Sternwheeler Steamer
Considering the mode of transportation that existed prior to 1900 I wonder what "road scrapings without stones" consisted of.
Roger Pellett
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Roger Pellett got a reaction from Blighty in Chaperon 1894 by Mike Dowling - FINISHED - Model Shipways - Sternwheeler Steamer
The following is from Alan Bates Western Rivers Cyclopedium. Thought that you might enjoy:
Composition for Covering Boilers & etc.
Road scrapings, free from stones, 2 parts, cow manure gathered from the pasture, 1 part,; mix thoroughly and add to each barrowful of the mixture 6 lbs of fire clay; 1/2 lb of flax shoves or chopped hay, and 4 oz of teased hair. It must be well mixed and chopped ; then add as much water as it will bring to the consistency of mortar, the more it is worked the tougher it is.
It is hard for us to understand today, how homespun the engineering of these steamboats was.
Roger Pellett
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Roger Pellett got a reaction from Mike Dowling in Chaperon 1894 by Mike Dowling - FINISHED - Model Shipways - Sternwheeler Steamer
The following is from Alan Bates Western Rivers Cyclopedium. Thought that you might enjoy:
Composition for Covering Boilers & etc.
Road scrapings, free from stones, 2 parts, cow manure gathered from the pasture, 1 part,; mix thoroughly and add to each barrowful of the mixture 6 lbs of fire clay; 1/2 lb of flax shoves or chopped hay, and 4 oz of teased hair. It must be well mixed and chopped ; then add as much water as it will bring to the consistency of mortar, the more it is worked the tougher it is.
It is hard for us to understand today, how homespun the engineering of these steamboats was.
Roger Pellett
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Roger Pellett got a reaction from Piet in SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse 1897 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale 1:144 - POF - first German four stacker of the Norddeutscher Lloyd line
I am not particularly interested in Titanic lore but I did buy and read a copy of Titanic Ships Titanic Disasters, a serious examination of Titanic's design and sinking by a forensic naval architect and a marine engineer, John Woodward who taught marine machinery courses at the University of Michigan to budding marine engineers including this correspondent. This book is in my opinion essential reading for those interested in Titanic and large passenger vessels in general. The book is published by the Society of Naval Architects and Marine Engineers here in the US.
The authors conclude that Titanic was a successful design. She was specified as a two compartment ship. The gash flooded six. She sank on an even keel and allowed her life boats to be launched (with the possible exception of the collapsible boats), and her power plant continue to function providing steam end electric lighting until the end. A couple of "improved Titanic" designs actually fared worse by capsizing before sinking.
Titanic's deficiency was that she was not properly outfitted. Her owners chose not to provide sufficient lifeboats.
Roger Pellett
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Roger Pellett got a reaction from Piet in SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse 1897 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale 1:144 - POF - first German four stacker of the Norddeutscher Lloyd line
Nils,
If you don't mind using plastic sheet you might consider using the model boat that you bought to vacuum form the boats. I would led recommend forming them in port and starboard halves. You would have to cut your model longitudinally in half. When the formed halves are cut from the flat sheet you have a nice little flange on each side to glue together that can then be shaped for the keel. The thwarts and air tank top can then be cut out as sa third piece and glued into the top.with your abilities, I'm sure that you would have no trouble mass producing them.
If you have not used vacuum forming it is simple, and foolproof. A shop vacuum provides plenty of suction. You can produce a wonderfully light delicate boat that will look even better than the model that you bought.
Roger
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Roger Pellett got a reaction from Sexyauthor in Harriet Lane by Sexyauthor - Model Shipways - Scale: 3:32
I built this model many many years ago. It is a handsome model and it is interesting to see the improvements that MS has made to the kit over the years and you are doing a fine job with yours.
I hope that you won't mind a friendly suggestion. I believe that the vents behind the windlass shown on the drawing are actually the pipes that lead to the chain locker for the anchor chains.
The pair of cowl vents that you have placed aft of the windlass actually should go atop the deckhouse to ventilate the boiler room.
Roger Pellett
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Roger Pellett got a reaction from thibaultron in Harriet Lane by Sexyauthor - Model Shipways - Scale: 3:32
I built this model many many years ago. It is a handsome model and it is interesting to see the improvements that MS has made to the kit over the years and you are doing a fine job with yours.
I hope that you won't mind a friendly suggestion. I believe that the vents behind the windlass shown on the drawing are actually the pipes that lead to the chain locker for the anchor chains.
The pair of cowl vents that you have placed aft of the windlass actually should go atop the deckhouse to ventilate the boiler room.
Roger Pellett
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Roger Pellett got a reaction from Keith Simmons in Chaperon 1894 by Mike Dowling - FINISHED - Model Shipways - Sternwheeler Steamer
Great looking hull and assuming that the stand is robust enough to do its job, I think that it accentuates the hull shape.
Well done!
Roger
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Roger Pellett got a reaction from Omega1234 in 40' Cruising Sailboat by BenF89 - 1:12 Scale
I studied NAME at Michigan, graduating many years before you did 1965. We learned to make lines drawings with ducks and splines traced with ink on vellum. What a mess! T still make model ship drawings this way though.
Roger
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Roger Pellett got a reaction from John Allen in 40' Cruising Sailboat by BenF89 - 1:12 Scale
Hi Ben,
Nice work and congratulations on becoming a PE. Where did you study NAME?
Roger Pellett
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Roger Pellett got a reaction from mtaylor in Chaperon 1894 by Mike Dowling - FINISHED - Model Shipways - Sternwheeler Steamer
Great looking hull and assuming that the stand is robust enough to do its job, I think that it accentuates the hull shape.
Well done!
Roger
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Roger Pellett got a reaction from mtaylor in 40' Cruising Sailboat by BenF89 - 1:12 Scale
I studied NAME at Michigan, graduating many years before you did 1965. We learned to make lines drawings with ducks and splines traced with ink on vellum. What a mess! T still make model ship drawings this way though.
Roger
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Roger Pellett got a reaction from BenF89 in 40' Cruising Sailboat by BenF89 - 1:12 Scale
I studied NAME at Michigan, graduating many years before you did 1965. We learned to make lines drawings with ducks and splines traced with ink on vellum. What a mess! T still make model ship drawings this way though.
Roger
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Roger Pellett got a reaction from Canute in Expoxy Substitute?
I suggest that you look at offerings by companies selling marine repair supplies. Two that come to mind are Jamestown Distributors and West Marine, not to be conused with West System epoxy which can be bought from West Marine and many local marinas. The marine epoxy companies are constantly coming up with new formulations and easier to use systems so these sources are worth a look.
Having said this the marine epoxy systems are expensive relative to the hardware store variety. A pint of West System, it's associated hardener and metering pumps might cost $50 but it will last for years and is very versatile as the basic resin can be mixed with a variety catalysts and thickened with several different thickeners. I consider it to be a workshop supply to be kept "in stock." West System also sells a small batch mixing set that comes with a calibrated scale that allows the stuff to be mixed by drops. I have the scale but have not had a chance to use it.
For cheap and dirty epoxy I prefer the stuff that comes in tubes to the double syringe type. I keep a stack of old business cards on my workbench ( you need to either get promoted or fired often) and a box of tooth picks. A drop of epoxy and a drop of catalyst on a business card mixed with a toothpick makes a quick small batch.
Roger Pellett
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Roger Pellett got a reaction from mikiek in Expoxy Substitute?
I suggest that you look at offerings by companies selling marine repair supplies. Two that come to mind are Jamestown Distributors and West Marine, not to be conused with West System epoxy which can be bought from West Marine and many local marinas. The marine epoxy companies are constantly coming up with new formulations and easier to use systems so these sources are worth a look.
Having said this the marine epoxy systems are expensive relative to the hardware store variety. A pint of West System, it's associated hardener and metering pumps might cost $50 but it will last for years and is very versatile as the basic resin can be mixed with a variety catalysts and thickened with several different thickeners. I consider it to be a workshop supply to be kept "in stock." West System also sells a small batch mixing set that comes with a calibrated scale that allows the stuff to be mixed by drops. I have the scale but have not had a chance to use it.
For cheap and dirty epoxy I prefer the stuff that comes in tubes to the double syringe type. I keep a stack of old business cards on my workbench ( you need to either get promoted or fired often) and a box of tooth picks. A drop of epoxy and a drop of catalyst on a business card mixed with a toothpick makes a quick small batch.
Roger Pellett
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Roger Pellett got a reaction from Omega1234 in 40' Cruising Sailboat by BenF89 - 1:12 Scale
Hi Ben,
Nice work and congratulations on becoming a PE. Where did you study NAME?
Roger Pellett
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Roger Pellett got a reaction from mtaylor in Expoxy Substitute?
I suggest that you look at offerings by companies selling marine repair supplies. Two that come to mind are Jamestown Distributors and West Marine, not to be conused with West System epoxy which can be bought from West Marine and many local marinas. The marine epoxy companies are constantly coming up with new formulations and easier to use systems so these sources are worth a look.
Having said this the marine epoxy systems are expensive relative to the hardware store variety. A pint of West System, it's associated hardener and metering pumps might cost $50 but it will last for years and is very versatile as the basic resin can be mixed with a variety catalysts and thickened with several different thickeners. I consider it to be a workshop supply to be kept "in stock." West System also sells a small batch mixing set that comes with a calibrated scale that allows the stuff to be mixed by drops. I have the scale but have not had a chance to use it.
For cheap and dirty epoxy I prefer the stuff that comes in tubes to the double syringe type. I keep a stack of old business cards on my workbench ( you need to either get promoted or fired often) and a box of tooth picks. A drop of epoxy and a drop of catalyst on a business card mixed with a toothpick makes a quick small batch.
Roger Pellett
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Roger Pellett got a reaction from mtaylor in 40' Cruising Sailboat by BenF89 - 1:12 Scale
Hi Ben,
Nice work and congratulations on becoming a PE. Where did you study NAME?
Roger Pellett
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Roger Pellett got a reaction from Ulises Victoria in Expoxy Substitute?
I suggest that you look at offerings by companies selling marine repair supplies. Two that come to mind are Jamestown Distributors and West Marine, not to be conused with West System epoxy which can be bought from West Marine and many local marinas. The marine epoxy companies are constantly coming up with new formulations and easier to use systems so these sources are worth a look.
Having said this the marine epoxy systems are expensive relative to the hardware store variety. A pint of West System, it's associated hardener and metering pumps might cost $50 but it will last for years and is very versatile as the basic resin can be mixed with a variety catalysts and thickened with several different thickeners. I consider it to be a workshop supply to be kept "in stock." West System also sells a small batch mixing set that comes with a calibrated scale that allows the stuff to be mixed by drops. I have the scale but have not had a chance to use it.
For cheap and dirty epoxy I prefer the stuff that comes in tubes to the double syringe type. I keep a stack of old business cards on my workbench ( you need to either get promoted or fired often) and a box of tooth picks. A drop of epoxy and a drop of catalyst on a business card mixed with a toothpick makes a quick small batch.
Roger Pellett
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Roger Pellett got a reaction from Martin W in SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse 1897 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale 1:144 - POF - first German four stacker of the Norddeutscher Lloyd line
I am not particularly interested in Titanic lore but I did buy and read a copy of Titanic Ships Titanic Disasters, a serious examination of Titanic's design and sinking by a forensic naval architect and a marine engineer, John Woodward who taught marine machinery courses at the University of Michigan to budding marine engineers including this correspondent. This book is in my opinion essential reading for those interested in Titanic and large passenger vessels in general. The book is published by the Society of Naval Architects and Marine Engineers here in the US.
The authors conclude that Titanic was a successful design. She was specified as a two compartment ship. The gash flooded six. She sank on an even keel and allowed her life boats to be launched (with the possible exception of the collapsible boats), and her power plant continue to function providing steam end electric lighting until the end. A couple of "improved Titanic" designs actually fared worse by capsizing before sinking.
Titanic's deficiency was that she was not properly outfitted. Her owners chose not to provide sufficient lifeboats.
Roger Pellett
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Roger Pellett got a reaction from Martin W in SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse 1897 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale 1:144 - POF - first German four stacker of the Norddeutscher Lloyd line
Nils,
If you don't mind using plastic sheet you might consider using the model boat that you bought to vacuum form the boats. I would led recommend forming them in port and starboard halves. You would have to cut your model longitudinally in half. When the formed halves are cut from the flat sheet you have a nice little flange on each side to glue together that can then be shaped for the keel. The thwarts and air tank top can then be cut out as sa third piece and glued into the top.with your abilities, I'm sure that you would have no trouble mass producing them.
If you have not used vacuum forming it is simple, and foolproof. A shop vacuum provides plenty of suction. You can produce a wonderfully light delicate boat that will look even better than the model that you bought.
Roger
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Roger Pellett got a reaction from Mirabell61 in SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse 1897 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale 1:144 - POF - first German four stacker of the Norddeutscher Lloyd line
I am not particularly interested in Titanic lore but I did buy and read a copy of Titanic Ships Titanic Disasters, a serious examination of Titanic's design and sinking by a forensic naval architect and a marine engineer, John Woodward who taught marine machinery courses at the University of Michigan to budding marine engineers including this correspondent. This book is in my opinion essential reading for those interested in Titanic and large passenger vessels in general. The book is published by the Society of Naval Architects and Marine Engineers here in the US.
The authors conclude that Titanic was a successful design. She was specified as a two compartment ship. The gash flooded six. She sank on an even keel and allowed her life boats to be launched (with the possible exception of the collapsible boats), and her power plant continue to function providing steam end electric lighting until the end. A couple of "improved Titanic" designs actually fared worse by capsizing before sinking.
Titanic's deficiency was that she was not properly outfitted. Her owners chose not to provide sufficient lifeboats.
Roger Pellett
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Roger Pellett got a reaction from Omega1234 in SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse 1897 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale 1:144 - POF - first German four stacker of the Norddeutscher Lloyd line
I am not particularly interested in Titanic lore but I did buy and read a copy of Titanic Ships Titanic Disasters, a serious examination of Titanic's design and sinking by a forensic naval architect and a marine engineer, John Woodward who taught marine machinery courses at the University of Michigan to budding marine engineers including this correspondent. This book is in my opinion essential reading for those interested in Titanic and large passenger vessels in general. The book is published by the Society of Naval Architects and Marine Engineers here in the US.
The authors conclude that Titanic was a successful design. She was specified as a two compartment ship. The gash flooded six. She sank on an even keel and allowed her life boats to be launched (with the possible exception of the collapsible boats), and her power plant continue to function providing steam end electric lighting until the end. A couple of "improved Titanic" designs actually fared worse by capsizing before sinking.
Titanic's deficiency was that she was not properly outfitted. Her owners chose not to provide sufficient lifeboats.
Roger Pellett
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Roger Pellett got a reaction from mtaylor in SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse 1897 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale 1:144 - POF - first German four stacker of the Norddeutscher Lloyd line
I am not particularly interested in Titanic lore but I did buy and read a copy of Titanic Ships Titanic Disasters, a serious examination of Titanic's design and sinking by a forensic naval architect and a marine engineer, John Woodward who taught marine machinery courses at the University of Michigan to budding marine engineers including this correspondent. This book is in my opinion essential reading for those interested in Titanic and large passenger vessels in general. The book is published by the Society of Naval Architects and Marine Engineers here in the US.
The authors conclude that Titanic was a successful design. She was specified as a two compartment ship. The gash flooded six. She sank on an even keel and allowed her life boats to be launched (with the possible exception of the collapsible boats), and her power plant continue to function providing steam end electric lighting until the end. A couple of "improved Titanic" designs actually fared worse by capsizing before sinking.
Titanic's deficiency was that she was not properly outfitted. Her owners chose not to provide sufficient lifeboats.
Roger Pellett
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Roger Pellett got a reaction from Piet in SS Stephen Hopkins by schooner - FINISHED - BlueJacket Shipcrafters - Liberty Ship
Learning something new whether a new technique or more about the vessel that you are modeling is what makes this hobby so fascinating.
Roger
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