Heronguy

Doug,
 
Looking forward to your results 250m $8 will go easier on the wallet.

Almost exactly a year ago I decided to build the little ship's boat that comes with the kit (I wasn't going to start for main ship's build but want'ed to play).  I got part way on that fiddly little boat but ran into some challenges.  
 
One for PdN builders to be aware of I documented in a PM to @Azzoun.  It has  to do with the spacing of the rib formers on the keel.  He posted it the info here.  
 
Although I pushed on with the boat build for a while I had great trouble getting decent results.  Partly it was a problem trying to bend the 1/16" square basswood but mostly it was my lack of experience and patience.  I put the little boat on the shelf.
 

 
Unfortunately (or not?) things don't always stay on shelves where you put them.  The little boat skeleton was broken in a fall so I put it further back on the shelf where is has stayed for months.  Thinking I would abandon it I saw that Model Expo sold the kits for these little boats as stand-alone projects.  Since my assembly instructions called it a 5-Incn Typical Ship's Boat  I order the 5" version from ME.
 
Here is a comparison of the 2 laser cut sheets for the original (top of photo - from my PdN kit), and the one just received (bottom one on photo)
 
here is a comparison of the 2 partially assembled

 
I think this is a clear demonstration of the expansion of the universe.  - the new 5" boat is much larger that the old one - what other explanation could there be!
 
Advice for little boat builders.  If you're building the one from your kit firstly measure the spacing of the rib formers on the keel before building the jig.  Secondly look carefully at rib former #1 (it's labelled) to make sure that it is smaller that the other 3 - mine isn't and it makes it impossible to plank the hull.  Thirdly if your rib former #1 is the correct size realize that using the building jig which makes the top of these formers (top when the boat is in floating orientation - bottom in construction orientation) level will leave a gap preventing you from attaching the rib to the keel without some shimming.

Fourthly, consider throwing out the basswood 1/16" square stock and using some wood that takes bends more easily (I'm using walnut). Fifthly, don't expect to get the lovely sheer line shown on the plans since the building jig makes the run from rib 2 to 4 level (probably not big issue).

 
I'm going to build the bigger one before I decide if the smaller one can be salvaged by some changes to rib former #1.  Otherwise it will be back to ME for the 4-1/4 inch boat which I believe is the size in the PdN kit
 
 
 
 
 

Bob, I'm excited to see her in your hands!  I will enjoy watching and learning.
 
 

Almost exactly a year ago I decided to build the little ship's boat that comes with the kit (I wasn't going to start for main ship's build but want'ed to play).  I got part way on that fiddly little boat but ran into some challenges.  
 
One for PdN builders to be aware of I documented in a PM to @Azzoun.  It has  to do with the spacing of the rib formers on the keel.  He posted it the info here.  
 
Although I pushed on with the boat build for a while I had great trouble getting decent results.  Partly it was a problem trying to bend the 1/16" square basswood but mostly it was my lack of experience and patience.  I put the little boat on the shelf.
 

 
Unfortunately (or not?) things don't always stay on shelves where you put them.  The little boat skeleton was broken in a fall so I put it further back on the shelf where is has stayed for months.  Thinking I would abandon it I saw that Model Expo sold the kits for these little boats as stand-alone projects.  Since my assembly instructions called it a 5-Incn Typical Ship's Boat  I order the 5" version from ME.
 
Here is a comparison of the 2 laser cut sheets for the original (top of photo - from my PdN kit), and the one just received (bottom one on photo)
 
here is a comparison of the 2 partially assembled

 
I think this is a clear demonstration of the expansion of the universe.  - the new 5" boat is much larger that the old one - what other explanation could there be!
 
Advice for little boat builders.  If you're building the one from your kit firstly measure the spacing of the rib formers on the keel before building the jig.  Secondly look carefully at rib former #1 (it's labelled) to make sure that it is smaller that the other 3 - mine isn't and it makes it impossible to plank the hull.  Thirdly if your rib former #1 is the correct size realize that using the building jig which makes the top of these formers (top when the boat is in floating orientation - bottom in construction orientation) level will leave a gap preventing you from attaching the rib to the keel without some shimming.

Fourthly, consider throwing out the basswood 1/16" square stock and using some wood that takes bends more easily (I'm using walnut). Fifthly, don't expect to get the lovely sheer line shown on the plans since the building jig makes the run from rib 2 to 4 level (probably not big issue).

 
I'm going to build the bigger one before I decide if the smaller one can be salvaged by some changes to rib former #1.  Otherwise it will be back to ME for the 4-1/4 inch boat which I believe is the size in the PdN kit
 
 
 
 
 

Hi Doug,
Thanks for sharing your experience with this little boat kit. It will be helpful for me when I get to that stage. I have started my PdeN - (built log will begin soon, I just have to get to a point where I'm not embarrassed to photograph what I have done, and I'm not quite there yet!)  Already I have discovered a number of anomalies with this kit which I'll refer to when I start my build log.
David

Almost exactly a year ago I decided to build the little ship's boat that comes with the kit (I wasn't going to start for main ship's build but want'ed to play).  I got part way on that fiddly little boat but ran into some challenges.  
 
One for PdN builders to be aware of I documented in a PM to @Azzoun.  It has  to do with the spacing of the rib formers on the keel.  He posted it the info here.  
 
Although I pushed on with the boat build for a while I had great trouble getting decent results.  Partly it was a problem trying to bend the 1/16" square basswood but mostly it was my lack of experience and patience.  I put the little boat on the shelf.
 

 
Unfortunately (or not?) things don't always stay on shelves where you put them.  The little boat skeleton was broken in a fall so I put it further back on the shelf where is has stayed for months.  Thinking I would abandon it I saw that Model Expo sold the kits for these little boats as stand-alone projects.  Since my assembly instructions called it a 5-Incn Typical Ship's Boat  I order the 5" version from ME.
 
Here is a comparison of the 2 laser cut sheets for the original (top of photo - from my PdN kit), and the one just received (bottom one on photo)
 
here is a comparison of the 2 partially assembled

 
I think this is a clear demonstration of the expansion of the universe.  - the new 5" boat is much larger that the old one - what other explanation could there be!
 
Advice for little boat builders.  If you're building the one from your kit firstly measure the spacing of the rib formers on the keel before building the jig.  Secondly look carefully at rib former #1 (it's labelled) to make sure that it is smaller that the other 3 - mine isn't and it makes it impossible to plank the hull.  Thirdly if your rib former #1 is the correct size realize that using the building jig which makes the top of these formers (top when the boat is in floating orientation - bottom in construction orientation) level will leave a gap preventing you from attaching the rib to the keel without some shimming.

Fourthly, consider throwing out the basswood 1/16" square stock and using some wood that takes bends more easily (I'm using walnut). Fifthly, don't expect to get the lovely sheer line shown on the plans since the building jig makes the run from rib 2 to 4 level (probably not big issue).

 
I'm going to build the bigger one before I decide if the smaller one can be salvaged by some changes to rib former #1.  Otherwise it will be back to ME for the 4-1/4 inch boat which I believe is the size in the PdN kit
 
 
 
 
 

I have a ropewalk on order and was looking for yarn for experimenting.  I have a supply of fine linen and cotton yarns from our home weaving studio.  The finest is labelled 28/2 which yields 7200 meters/kilo. I checked our sources for weaving yarns and discovered 90/2 (27,200 m/kg) , 60/2 (18,000 m/kg) and 35/2 (10,600 m/kg) lace linen in black and in natural.
 
These are sold in small spools of about 250 m for around $8.  One source is Vavastuga located in Massachusetts.
 
Once I receive the ropewalk and the lace yarn I will do a few experiments and post some results.
 

A minor milestone.  I've completed the planking of the curvy part at the stern. Easy sailing from here other than the tighter space which will make clamping a bit harder.  So far this has been one of my easier hulls to plank.
 

After placing 4 or 5 strakes it appeared to me that at the stem the planks should be repositioned slightly.  I released the planks at the stem, sanded them down and reglued them with some extra clamping provided by yours truly.
 

 
Looks better now.

 
The stern requires a bit of a bend as well as a 90º twist.  Clamping as always is a challenge on these spots.
 

 
I found I could slightly ameliorate the problem by adding scrap  of wood on the top side of the balsa stern filler.  This are will be removed later in the build to there was no harm in doing this. Worked quite well.
 

 
 
The current state including the garboard strake and the  broad strake above it.  So far all but the last strake added have been full width strips.  The hull is quite easy to plank as for the remaining strakes the tapering required in nowhere more that 1mm off the 5mm strips.
 

 

Bob, I'm excited to see her in your hands!  I will enjoy watching and learning.
 
 

Thanks Don. I can't tell you how much having this model means to me. It's become the most prized of my growing collection. Just the sight of that black, yellow and copper hull takes me right back to when I was about 8 or 10 years old and was mesmerized by this model, (along with several others,) when it sat on one of my friend's family's many mantelpieces.
 
David

Bob, I'm excited to see her in your hands!  I will enjoy watching and learning.
 
 

Bob, I'm excited to see her in your hands!  I will enjoy watching and learning.
 
 

So have been messing around with spray paints and avoiding bleeds from outside to inside and vice versa. Got a waterline that I'm happy with so will move onto next stage. Will get over the odd blemish here and there. Progress over perfection for me, else risk I give up!

Hey everyone. I'm still finishing the hull details and the few deck toys that go with this build. Everything is looking good - no real problems. I did have that question on mast rake angle, turns out there isn't any for Trajta. Straight up & down. I keep thinking back to that mast foot that I glued in the wrong place. What a nightmare that would have been if I had not caught it. I've also painted the hull. Above the paint line the rest of the hull is wiped down with the linseed mixture and stained. Most everything on the deck is just the linseed. I'm still liking that on the walnut.
 
Here's a few shots:
 

 

 

 
The bitts

 
Hatch covers - yes I know one looks crooked. Per the plans!
Door to the forward cargo hold - I glued this one shut

 
Door to the aft cargo hold - I glued the door off to the side so you can see in.

 
The deck

 
I have not put varnish on anything yet although you would never know it looking at the deck.
 

Bob, I'm excited to see her in your hands!  I will enjoy watching and learning.
 
 

Bob, I'm excited to see her in your hands!  I will enjoy watching and learning.
 
 

Floyd, you should add a build log too if it isn't "on the shelf" anymore!

Add a chair for me too please!

I believe there is beauty in all forms of Cross-sections: 
 
1) Just the hull presented as a precious Jewel: 

 
2) The intermediate approach: 

 
3) The Statement in its full glory: 

 
Yves

I've made the gripes and installed the eyebolts to the transom. Attached are the pictures of my test "fit" of the gripes.
 
Please give me some feed back. I'm entering unknown seas and I'd like to have some navigation from a more experienced skipper. I haven't made the fender yet and I'm curious to know if the boat resting on the port lid would be proper.
 
Richard
 

So, the freeboard (the planking above the deck) is to be installed next. The tops of the bulkheads, the parts of the bulkheads that had the task to form the freeboard while planking, need to be cut off, removed… The inner walls of the freeboard are to be grind and polished next, the glue remains have to be removed completely… At this model the base for the deck have to be installed before placing the deck planks. There is a curvature of the deck that has to be followed when sanding the top edges of the bulkheads and the curvature is shown into the drawings (this cannot be seen here at the log)… The deck base is made of several wood pieces placed between the bulkheads’ tops. Pieces of some soft plywood are ideal for this purpose…

Mr. Mike, Yes, the Leudo (Trajta is a type of Leudo) was painted dark green as well, so this is ok... But, under waterline there was used the tar in the beginning, but later on some other colours were in use: so the hull under water line could be painted dark red, dark green or brown (in this case the hull should be natural wood, matt black, light blue etc.)... The deck was natural wood because it was the working area (for handling the fishing tools, nets etc.)...
Regards,
Zoran 

Thank you Russ.  I do like this hull as it is closing in.  Part of what attracted me to the kit in the 1st place!
 
 

A minor milestone.  I've completed the planking of the curvy part at the stern. Easy sailing from here other than the tighter space which will make clamping a bit harder.  So far this has been one of my easier hulls to plank.