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I have been using it for about 2 years now and love it - each update adds a bit more functionality.  Easy to enter data, easy to search, just need to keep it hidden from the spouse so she doesn't know how much I have invested in books
 
I also added a couple of custom types so that I can track my downloaded (PDF) files using the program.  MUCH easier than the spreadsheets I started out with!

Hi Marc,
 
The original has a painting of her home town (Middelburg) on her lower stern.

 
Jan

Beautiful carvings. I also like the background, so Dutch looking.
Marc

Hi guys (m/f) ;-)
 
The finished setup:
 

 

 

 
on the sides there will be two more pieces of carving..
 
Best,
Michiel

Thanks guys,
 
 
Finally I found some time to work a bit, jus a little update but still a serious about of hours... 
 
Two faces to go... 
 
 

Sorry to hear that version 1.0 augured in (airplane talk   ) but we are all looking forward to version 2.0.  Hey, as Mark has said we have already or will yet encounter the same situation.
Version 2.0 will be near perfect.  Looking forward to pictures.
 
Cheers, 

I have been on first name with Murphy for several builds.  
David B

Well that is very interesting.    Thank you Sjors.  I have printed it and will stick the printout in the model so when I am ready to restore her I at least have a starting point.
 
Here is the model in question by the way.  I havent had time to give it a thorough researching yet.  That is a big help.  The name on the back is "Margareta" or "St. Margarethen"
 
Chuck
 

 

Chuck,
 
I was reading your log about the Cheerful and I have seen one Dutch model that you thought it was a fisherman ship from around 1950.
I knew there was something wrong about it so I have search the internet.
I found this drawing and picture.
It's a beurtschip (like a Barge )
 
Sjors
 

The bottom picture is what all the boats look like if you build them.
Also, the three Fluits go from Large, medium and small. The largest being used for Oceans and the smaller ones for European waters. The Zeehaen - fluit
(A. Tasman) which is also in the book of Abel Tasman has 16 plans. Very elaborate.
The folder that holds the plans is about 3 times thicker than the book itself and the 1:48 plans make for a substantial size boat, so many details can be added.
Marc

That ship is coming along nicely. I can picture you behind the monitor with the plan in view, picking a part, sending it over to laser saw - have it cut out and use it for the ship.
Marc

I was able to shape the fashion pieces today.  They are will be in one piece with the boom crutch added separately later.  The boom crutches wont be added until the cap rail is added way down the road.   For now I just left them extra long so I can file them back to where I want them. You can see in the photo how the bottom fashion piece was bent using heat.....no water or soaking.  The top one is the flat 1/16" thick piece which has not been bent yet.
 
Once these were glued on the model,   the second layer of the wales (two strakes) were added and painted.  I still have to paint them on the other side.  After thats done I will treenail above the wales.  That will be easier to do before I add the fancy molding along the sides of the hull per the plan.
 
Notice how the fashion piece covers the end grain of the planks on the stern transom.  When the stern is all done there shouldnt be any end-grain exposed for any of the planking.  The fashion piece and square tuck protect them from the elements.
 

 

 

 

I have decided to do a serious review on this book and the plans and here it is. (avsjerome2003) just mentioned the book and nothing else.
 
17th century Dutch Merchant Ships
Text, Photos and Plans for the Ship Modeler.
 
By A. J. Hoving
Plans by C. Emke
Models by H. Tomesn
Graphics by E. Hoving
Publisher: SeaWatch Books, LLC
Case Bound, Full Color, Dust Jacket
Year: 2014
Large 8.5x11 format
 
Pages: 152 and 24 sets of plans from 10 merchant ship types in the scale of 1-48 and 1-96.
ISBN: 978-0-9904041-1-8
 
With this book all the plans modelers may need to recreate a whole range of vessels from the Dutch Golden Age. The plans are on thick stock (paper) and the ships areas follows”
 
Seagoing Vessels:
Pinas Witsen – scale 1-96 – 4 sheets of plans.
Fluit “Langewijk” – scale 1-96 – 3 sheets of plans.
Fluit “Zeehaen” (Able Tasman) – scale 1-96 – 3 sheets of plans.
Fluit “Roode Leeuw” – scale 1-96 – 2 sheets of plans.
Cat “Peacock” – scale 1-96 – 1 sheet of plans.
 
Coastal Trade:
Boyer 86ft – scale 1-48 – 3 sheets of plans.
Galliot – scale 1-48 – 2 sheets of plans.
 
Inshore:
The Narrow- & Wide-ship – scale 1-48 – 2 sheets of plans.
Kaag – scale- 1-48 – 1 sheet of plans.
 
Fishermen as Traders:
Buss 1598 – scale 1-96 – 1 sheets of plans.
Hooker – scale 1-96 – 1 sheets of plans.
Pink – scale 1-48 – 1 sheet of plans.
 
ISBN: 978-0-9904041-2-5
Note: Three Fluits is one ship type.
 
Summary of the people that created this book.
 
Ab Hoving: Worked as the chief model restorer in the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam. Studied the technique of Dutch ship building in the 17th and 18th century. He has written numerous books, articles in several magazines and given lectures. He has been involved in major replica building projects, such as Duyfken (West Australia, Statenjacht (Utrecht) and others.
 
Cor Emke: After he retired as a manager from an American Co. in forklifts Cor dedicated his life in building ship models of Dutch vessels from the 17th century. In cooperation with Ab Hoving he produced many AutoCAD drawings of ships, thus filling the gap in the availability of such draughts. Together with Ab he has been involved in several replica projects, like the Statenjacht Utrecht and De 7 Provincien.
 
Herbert Tomesen: Herbert runs a company in Amsterdam, Holland, Artitec (www.artitec.nl), which produces architectural models. He produced large scenery models of ancient cities in many museums in Holland. He built a huge diorama of Roadstead of Texel in the 17th century containing over a hundred ships. The models in this book are by him.
 
Emiel Hoving: Ab’s son Emiel studied art in Groningen and has been a graphic designer for almost 20 years. He works for Artitec and did the design for Ab’s first book, Message in a model and Statenjacht Utrecht. For the pictures in this book he took photgraphs of Herberts models and used PhotShop to create images of what Dutch maritime world looked like in the 17th century.
 
Summary:
The book is well written with numerous pictures, beautiful maritime paintings, copies of old building plans, hull renderings and many ship models. Well documented historical information to give the reader a good picture of what type of ships were used in the 17th century Dutch trade.
 
There is a detailed chapter of what items the Dutch traded in Europe and Russia and one can see that their wealth was first of all connected with their trading position Europe and that is what created their prosperity. The Dutch were Europe’s main freighters.
 
Another detailed chapter discusses how the ships were built. What measurements and ratios were used to produce a type of ship. In the back of the book there is a comparison chart of Witsen and Van Yk’s shipbuilding Formula’s. Several detailed renderings how the Dutch build there ships, “shell first”.
 
The chapters after that gives the reader detailed descriptions of the type of ship described which include close-ups from ship models, paintings and realistic Photoshop images.
 
 




 
 
It is too bad the book does not include a CD-Rom with the plans on it like the book from Abel Tasman. The advantage of this would be that you could view, zoom and pan the drawings on the computer monitor and print them to scale different from those that are supplied with the book.

I have decided to do a serious review on this book and the plans and here it is. (avsjerome2003) just mentioned the book and nothing else.
 
17th century Dutch Merchant Ships
Text, Photos and Plans for the Ship Modeler.
 
By A. J. Hoving
Plans by C. Emke
Models by H. Tomesn
Graphics by E. Hoving
Publisher: SeaWatch Books, LLC
Case Bound, Full Color, Dust Jacket
Year: 2014
Large 8.5x11 format
 
Pages: 152 and 24 sets of plans from 10 merchant ship types in the scale of 1-48 and 1-96.
ISBN: 978-0-9904041-1-8
 
With this book all the plans modelers may need to recreate a whole range of vessels from the Dutch Golden Age. The plans are on thick stock (paper) and the ships areas follows”
 
Seagoing Vessels:
Pinas Witsen – scale 1-96 – 4 sheets of plans.
Fluit “Langewijk” – scale 1-96 – 3 sheets of plans.
Fluit “Zeehaen” (Able Tasman) – scale 1-96 – 3 sheets of plans.
Fluit “Roode Leeuw” – scale 1-96 – 2 sheets of plans.
Cat “Peacock” – scale 1-96 – 1 sheet of plans.
 
Coastal Trade:
Boyer 86ft – scale 1-48 – 3 sheets of plans.
Galliot – scale 1-48 – 2 sheets of plans.
 
Inshore:
The Narrow- & Wide-ship – scale 1-48 – 2 sheets of plans.
Kaag – scale- 1-48 – 1 sheet of plans.
 
Fishermen as Traders:
Buss 1598 – scale 1-96 – 1 sheets of plans.
Hooker – scale 1-96 – 1 sheets of plans.
Pink – scale 1-48 – 1 sheet of plans.
 
ISBN: 978-0-9904041-2-5
Note: Three Fluits is one ship type.
 
Summary of the people that created this book.
 
Ab Hoving: Worked as the chief model restorer in the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam. Studied the technique of Dutch ship building in the 17th and 18th century. He has written numerous books, articles in several magazines and given lectures. He has been involved in major replica building projects, such as Duyfken (West Australia, Statenjacht (Utrecht) and others.
 
Cor Emke: After he retired as a manager from an American Co. in forklifts Cor dedicated his life in building ship models of Dutch vessels from the 17th century. In cooperation with Ab Hoving he produced many AutoCAD drawings of ships, thus filling the gap in the availability of such draughts. Together with Ab he has been involved in several replica projects, like the Statenjacht Utrecht and De 7 Provincien.
 
Herbert Tomesen: Herbert runs a company in Amsterdam, Holland, Artitec (www.artitec.nl), which produces architectural models. He produced large scenery models of ancient cities in many museums in Holland. He built a huge diorama of Roadstead of Texel in the 17th century containing over a hundred ships. The models in this book are by him.
 
Emiel Hoving: Ab’s son Emiel studied art in Groningen and has been a graphic designer for almost 20 years. He works for Artitec and did the design for Ab’s first book, Message in a model and Statenjacht Utrecht. For the pictures in this book he took photgraphs of Herberts models and used PhotShop to create images of what Dutch maritime world looked like in the 17th century.
 
Summary:
The book is well written with numerous pictures, beautiful maritime paintings, copies of old building plans, hull renderings and many ship models. Well documented historical information to give the reader a good picture of what type of ships were used in the 17th century Dutch trade.
 
There is a detailed chapter of what items the Dutch traded in Europe and Russia and one can see that their wealth was first of all connected with their trading position Europe and that is what created their prosperity. The Dutch were Europe’s main freighters.
 
Another detailed chapter discusses how the ships were built. What measurements and ratios were used to produce a type of ship. In the back of the book there is a comparison chart of Witsen and Van Yk’s shipbuilding Formula’s. Several detailed renderings how the Dutch build there ships, “shell first”.
 
The chapters after that gives the reader detailed descriptions of the type of ship described which include close-ups from ship models, paintings and realistic Photoshop images.
 
 




 
 
It is too bad the book does not include a CD-Rom with the plans on it like the book from Abel Tasman. The advantage of this would be that you could view, zoom and pan the drawings on the computer monitor and print them to scale different from those that are supplied with the book.

I have decided to do a serious review on this book and the plans and here it is. (avsjerome2003) just mentioned the book and nothing else.
 
17th century Dutch Merchant Ships
Text, Photos and Plans for the Ship Modeler.
 
By A. J. Hoving
Plans by C. Emke
Models by H. Tomesn
Graphics by E. Hoving
Publisher: SeaWatch Books, LLC
Case Bound, Full Color, Dust Jacket
Year: 2014
Large 8.5x11 format
 
Pages: 152 and 24 sets of plans from 10 merchant ship types in the scale of 1-48 and 1-96.
ISBN: 978-0-9904041-1-8
 
With this book all the plans modelers may need to recreate a whole range of vessels from the Dutch Golden Age. The plans are on thick stock (paper) and the ships areas follows”
 
Seagoing Vessels:
Pinas Witsen – scale 1-96 – 4 sheets of plans.
Fluit “Langewijk” – scale 1-96 – 3 sheets of plans.
Fluit “Zeehaen” (Able Tasman) – scale 1-96 – 3 sheets of plans.
Fluit “Roode Leeuw” – scale 1-96 – 2 sheets of plans.
Cat “Peacock” – scale 1-96 – 1 sheet of plans.
 
Coastal Trade:
Boyer 86ft – scale 1-48 – 3 sheets of plans.
Galliot – scale 1-48 – 2 sheets of plans.
 
Inshore:
The Narrow- & Wide-ship – scale 1-48 – 2 sheets of plans.
Kaag – scale- 1-48 – 1 sheet of plans.
 
Fishermen as Traders:
Buss 1598 – scale 1-96 – 1 sheets of plans.
Hooker – scale 1-96 – 1 sheets of plans.
Pink – scale 1-48 – 1 sheet of plans.
 
ISBN: 978-0-9904041-2-5
Note: Three Fluits is one ship type.
 
Summary of the people that created this book.
 
Ab Hoving: Worked as the chief model restorer in the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam. Studied the technique of Dutch ship building in the 17th and 18th century. He has written numerous books, articles in several magazines and given lectures. He has been involved in major replica building projects, such as Duyfken (West Australia, Statenjacht (Utrecht) and others.
 
Cor Emke: After he retired as a manager from an American Co. in forklifts Cor dedicated his life in building ship models of Dutch vessels from the 17th century. In cooperation with Ab Hoving he produced many AutoCAD drawings of ships, thus filling the gap in the availability of such draughts. Together with Ab he has been involved in several replica projects, like the Statenjacht Utrecht and De 7 Provincien.
 
Herbert Tomesen: Herbert runs a company in Amsterdam, Holland, Artitec (www.artitec.nl), which produces architectural models. He produced large scenery models of ancient cities in many museums in Holland. He built a huge diorama of Roadstead of Texel in the 17th century containing over a hundred ships. The models in this book are by him.
 
Emiel Hoving: Ab’s son Emiel studied art in Groningen and has been a graphic designer for almost 20 years. He works for Artitec and did the design for Ab’s first book, Message in a model and Statenjacht Utrecht. For the pictures in this book he took photgraphs of Herberts models and used PhotShop to create images of what Dutch maritime world looked like in the 17th century.
 
Summary:
The book is well written with numerous pictures, beautiful maritime paintings, copies of old building plans, hull renderings and many ship models. Well documented historical information to give the reader a good picture of what type of ships were used in the 17th century Dutch trade.
 
There is a detailed chapter of what items the Dutch traded in Europe and Russia and one can see that their wealth was first of all connected with their trading position Europe and that is what created their prosperity. The Dutch were Europe’s main freighters.
 
Another detailed chapter discusses how the ships were built. What measurements and ratios were used to produce a type of ship. In the back of the book there is a comparison chart of Witsen and Van Yk’s shipbuilding Formula’s. Several detailed renderings how the Dutch build there ships, “shell first”.
 
The chapters after that gives the reader detailed descriptions of the type of ship described which include close-ups from ship models, paintings and realistic Photoshop images.
 
 




 
 
It is too bad the book does not include a CD-Rom with the plans on it like the book from Abel Tasman. The advantage of this would be that you could view, zoom and pan the drawings on the computer monitor and print them to scale different from those that are supplied with the book.

The bottom picture is what all the boats look like if you build them.
Also, the three Fluits go from Large, medium and small. The largest being used for Oceans and the smaller ones for European waters. The Zeehaen - fluit
(A. Tasman) which is also in the book of Abel Tasman has 16 plans. Very elaborate.
The folder that holds the plans is about 3 times thicker than the book itself and the 1:48 plans make for a substantial size boat, so many details can be added.
Marc

We had a thread on this firm at "MSW1" in which some said that this firm (and some other firm, using almost the same name which I now forgot) was selling plans of which they did not have the copyrights, had a somewhat sloppy service, and was to be avoided....
They have a phone-numer on their site, you could give it a try....
Jan

I did some 'research' to this book:
There a re the following shiptypes in it (dutch names ):  pinas, 3 fluiten, katschip, boeier, galjoot, wijd(smal)schip, kaag, hoeker, buis en pink. The drawings include: lines, general views, cross-sections, rigging (and in some cases) belayingplan.
 
It's a shame that the shipping costs are so high
(especially while there has to be paid an additional import tax in the Netherlands which  is levied over the total cost of the shipment, which is including shippings costs....). Total cost will add up to (75+30)+6% = $112. Which is quite a lot.
 
(even though  the illustrations and drawings are very nice...)
 
Jan

Dictionary of British Naval Battles
By John D. Grainger
Woodbridge, Suffolk: The Boydell Press, 2012
6-1/2” x 9-1/2”, hardcover, xiv + 588 pages
Maps, glossary, bibliography, index. $90.00
ISBN: 9781843837046
 
John D. Grainger has presented readers with a thorough and accessible reference source on British naval encounters in his book, Dictionary of British Naval Battles. Focusing on British naval encounters from the Middle Ages through modern day, Grainger offers a new resource for naval historians and those with a casual interest in naval warfare alike. Addressing not only on the major battles of British naval history but on small naval encounters as well, Grainger offers an interpretation of Britain’s naval prowess rarely covered in other accounts. In doing so, Grainger presents the development of a diverse and influential naval force that became the dominant power on the sea throughout much of history.
 
            Grainger’s central objective is to demonstrate the breadth and multiplicity of British naval power throughout British history. Highlighting the widespread influence of Britain across the globe and its use of naval power to obtain this supremacy, Grainger aptly portrays the British navy as an active and disseminated entity almost continuously utilized. Using largely secondary sources, Grainger discusses each naval encounter in a clear and concise manor, detailing the vessels involved and their outfits, in addition to discussing the details of each event.
 
            Grainger organizes his work by naval vessel and individual battle, allowing him to discuss even small naval encounters largely overlooked in many British naval histories. Grainger begins his work discussing the meaning of the expressions “British”, “naval” and “dictionary”, effectively describing his definitions for the words as they pertain to the topics included in his work. Maintaining that “British” must include any navy under British rule, in one volume, Grainger effectively is able to discuss naval encounters ranging from the northern Irish attack on the Hebrides in 580 AD to Britain’s naval endeavors in the Persian Gulf. Focusing on each naval battle in turn, Grainger maintains a level of detail in each entry that surpasses many other works of the same nature.
 
            Grainger has produced detailed and well-crafted entries on a wide range of British naval topics, spanning from the medieval period to modern day. While his research is comprehensive, his scope remains very large, which at times can seem overwhelming. Though his general outline takes a logical and systematic approach, the wide range of topics covered has the potential to lose a reader. At times, the chronology of events is lost due to the alphabetical organization of the work, taking away from a more liminal understanding of Britain’s naval history.
 
            Despite this, Grainger clearly addresses his organizational technique in his introduction, and provides readers with additional references at the end of each entry for those interested in learning more about specific topics. Overall, Grainger has produced a well-researched and skillfully written addition to the canon of British naval history. Grainger has developed a valuable source of knowledge on British naval events, effectively producing an important reference source on British vessels, battles, and naval warfare.
 
Caitlin Zant
East Carolina University

Hi,
 
I have just published a new book by Ab Hoving titled 17th CENTURY DUTCH FREIGHTERS, Text, Plans and Photos For the Ship Modeler. It features 10 ships and boats from the period. The book is in full color and a plans portflio of 24 sheets comes with it. You can see details at www.seawatchbooks.com.
 
Thanks,
 
Bob Friedman

The rate to be built determined the intended number of guns, decks, size etc. or did the desired number of guns determine the rate to be built based on the establishment in effect at the time? Sort of a chicken and egg paradox!

Boy... that's a tough one, IMO.  The rates were set down by the various "Establishments" over the years and they did change.  I can't offer a comprehensive book but there is this:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rating_system_of_the_Royal_Navy
 
Down at the bottom of that link are the Winfield books listed.  They will probably be of help. 

More details.

Different angles and close ups.

robin b. - Thank you for your interest. You will not be disappointed.
 
 
tlevine - Thank you for this important tip. I did not even think about this. I will take your advice and redo the incorrect frames.
Thanks,
 
Marc