Keith Black

Thank you to everyone for the comments and likes. Thank you, Pat. The head is going to be simple, two wall divided one holers. I doubt that there was toilet plumbing on an 1870's sternwheeler supply boat. I finally made some sawdust, Lula's hull is on the ways. I've only got basic shapes at this point but it's the first step.Tons of refinement required before I get to planking. I ordered The Western Rivers Steamboat Cyclopoedium by Alan Bates. Way past time to better educate myself on this subject. I also placed a fitting order with Cornwall Model Boats and Modelers Central. Hopefully I'll have enough pieces parts to last for a few years. Question, are the arrows pointing to the rudder arms? If not then what are the arrows pointing to? If it is in fact the rudder arms, the ferry Lula is the only example I've seen done like this. Thoughts, please. Thanks to all for following along. Keith

Wowie kazowie, Keith. The hull gets more beautiful with each new post. I have a feeling if I asked how many more coats you're gonna apply the below would be a good guess "How many coats must man lay down before you can call a hull done? The answer, my friend, is how much is left in the can the answer is what's left in the can"

Roel, sorry for being late. What you've done so far looks great and I know she has to be a tiny thing but would you please put something next to her so we'll have an idea just HOW tiny she is.

Welcome to MSW. Glad to have you aboard.

Seventeen hundred clove hitches?! That's why I use the weave method.

Keith, you haven't missed much, mostly myself showing my ignorance. Your official Lula membership card is in the mail.

Regarding the head.... going through @Ras Ambrioso Zulu build and viewing this photo I think I can justify placing the head between the two cylinders. One wouldn't lack for privacy.

Thank you, Keith. The cheap display case is temporary as once it's joined by Lula that case will be much too small. Ole Bob, I keep wondering what will become of that man? Regarding the tug, please see the below.

That's some kinda crazy right there. To spend that much money for nothing and then destroy it just wigs me out. There are a ton of great charities out there that would benefit greatly from a 5.2 million dollar donation.

thank you to everyone for the comments, likes, and for following along. Eric, I didn't draw the water tank that's built into the hull as it won't be seen on the model, you'll just have to take my word that it's there. The water tank is 40' L x 18' W x 4' H holding 21,500 gallons weighing 90 tons. It will be placed forward of midship to counter balance the weight at the stern. I've asked Mr Google repeatedly what the weight of the boiler and steam engine were but I've yet to find an answer. If I knew those weights I could say how much forward the water tank would need to be placed. I think this will be another one of those "you'll have to take my word for it" items. I envision the head being up against the stern engine room wall on an enclosed raised platform between the two cylinders. I've been mentally spitballing this issue (along with Lula's daily operating cost) since last night. I have to view more photos before I can safely justify placing the head there. Keith

Golly that hull is a beautiful piece of craftsmanship and your little granddaughter is also beautiful. It seems like only yesterday that you hung her picture on Germania's passageway wall, she's growing up fast. I do hope you'll post a photo of her latest treasure once it's finished.

I was thinking about the advantages of the walkway above the wheel and realized I haven't made any provisions for a head.

Gary, yes the stern door to the pilothouse stays.

Thank you for your input, Gary. Folks much more knowledgeable than myself can provide a definitive answer on doing away with the walkway above the wheel and the back of the pilothouse but I'm going to take a stab at answering. One, it allows the most direct entry into the pilothouse because of the stairway. Two and most importantly I think that being able to observe the wheel in operation from above is crucial. Direct observation of the pillow blocks, paddle boards, and possible obstructions can be easily seen from the walkway. I don't see any advantage to moving the pilothouse three feet to the stern plus I like the esthetics of the way the pilothouse sits atop the engine room on the ferry Lula.

Thank you, brother Tom. With no photographic evidence nor plans to go by I've had to rely on thinking through how a supply/work boat would have been built during the early 1870's. I'm positive I've overlooked certain aspects of their construction thus my reliance upon the collective wisdom of my fellow MSW members to help me render a model as correct as possible. Your praise of my drafting is far too kind, but then you always have been.

It's great to see an update on the Duchess, Bob. She's looking fantastic and will be quite the beauty when finished. It's also good to see Gobber and Pile being put through their paces.

John, thank you. I'm anxious to to start cutting wood versus messing about with the necessary research. Thank you Bob and Kurt for your thoughts. As seen in the photo of the ferry Lula the only entry is via a door at the stern. My thought on replacing the most forward side windows with doors hinged on the stern side, swinging outward, would allow the pilot to momentarily release the wheel and step through either side door to get a better view forward around the boiler stack, boom mast, pile driver tower, and engine shed. I can see the need for vertical flags on the bow of the pile driver barge.

Thank you to everyone for the comments and likes. Eric, thank you for your input. You've been up and down this road many times, I'm just getting the map unfolded so I'm relying heavily on your comments and builds, mainly the Peerless. I finally have Lula on paper drawn to scale. Please forgive my amateurish attempt at drafting,. My high school mechanical drafting teacher would be appalled but my tools are a mechanical pencil, ruler, gum eraser (which stinks), and a WWII compass. Hey, I ain't framin' this but if a guy can 5.2 million for a banana and a piece of duct tape..... In listing the alphabetical details I'm going to start with the last one (K) first. K. The overall length including the wheel is 82'. The hull is 22" W x 67' L, 4' above the waterline at the bow and 3' at the stern, and a depth of 2' below the WL. The deck is 26' W. There is a clear line of sight from the pilot house's forward windows to the bow where the knees meet the deck. A. The pilothouse is 8' L, and 10' W, and 8' H on the ends and 7.5' on the sides. B. The engine room is 12' L x 16' W x 10' H. C. The wheel is 14' in dia x 14' W. D This is benched seating for pile driver crew members being transported to and fro. I need to add a dingy so this length may increase to make that accommodation. E. This is the hanging box for the fire buckets. F. Doctor engine, size to be determined. G. The boiler is 4' dia x 12' L, the stack is 22' H. H. The coal bin is 6' L x 14' and is 6' H on the ends and 5.5' on the sides holding approximately 6 tons. By adding another 2' to the width would increase the holding capacity to 7 tons. I've yet to decide if the the top will be tarped or hatched. I. The boom lift's mast and boom are 32'. The boom overhangs the bow by 12' and 19' on either side. J. Capstan, size to be determined. The above dimensions are flexible at this point should anyone think the above needs to be adjusted. Please don't hesitate to add your comments and thoughts. Thank you to all who have signed up for Lula's journey. It's been rather slow going to this point but hopefully we'll pick up steam shortly. Keith

Dave, welcome to MSW. Glad to have you aboard.

Keith, I'm enjoying the Erebus sidetrack but Endurance does need a wee bit of attention.

Andy, thank you for taking the time to explain the process.

Yes, welcome home. Did the cows miss you? The Connie is looking right smart, Glen. Fine job you're doing.

Jim, welcome to MSW. Glad to have you aboard.

Keith, thank you for sharing your furniture delivery experience. Eric and Kurt, thank you both for your sage thoughts. Time to devote to Lula has been in short supply as of late but I have been laying out her design elements and I should have her profile on paper within the next few days. During layout I was worried about the pilothouse being so far astern until I realized the pilothouse has to be as far astern as possible because of her job pushing the pile driver barge. Forget about trying to see around a stack, the pilot is trying to see around the pile driver tower! Photo Lula's pilot house has two windows on both the port and starboard sides with the only door at the stern. Knowing the pilot needs as much aside view as possible I think I need to replace the forward windows with doors. Lula's water tank will be built into the hull set forward allowing the boiler to be set closer to the engine room also a coal bin will be set forward of the boiler. Sacked coal would not have been used because of the numerous coal tenders working the harbor. She'll also have a boom lift near the bow. Because of the water and coal weight plus the mast and boom lift weight I think I can justify placing the boiler closer to the engine room. I debate with myself whether to have the boiler exposed or inclosed. Exposed makes for a more rough working like appearance while enclosed would be better for keeping steam temperatures elevated. An exposed boiler also provides more visual interest. Thank you to everyone for following along in these early days of Lula's development. Your thoughts are greatly appreciated! Keith.

Neat tool, Paul.