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Bob...I would conclude that you are one, who I would say has first hand experience. I should have used the language, *Most of us are not first hand experts*. Still...you make my point very clearly..... The materials used to weather standing rigging and deadeys, blocks and hearts would tend to *blacken* these items...not lighten them as some would model. The reason why I said , *some, model, based on preference*, not from what actually would be reality. Tanning, taring, oiling, varnishing these members to preserve them will in fact gather dirt and all manner of debris (Not failing to mention that these preservatives themselves are dark)....discoloring them to dark brown or grimy black. Reason why I used the Constitution rebuild as an example. These smart restoring folks know what we are talking about...that is why they chose to represent the rebuild with black line and fittings. Your expertise is always welcome and appreciated....I can't speak highly enough of it. Rob
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Since none of us are first hand experts, to weather blocks or deadeyes of period ships....(and generally any ship built between 1700~1900), were weathered brown or black based on the material supposedly used to preserve standing rigging at the time....is actually factual....we have to do a lot of guessing based on preferences.. Many paintings are virtually unclear. What is clear, is the practice of using a preservative on lanyards(blocks and deadeyes) was a factual reality, was it *Dark*, probably. How that application actually looked on a weathered(or new) vessel is simply speculative. I tend to follow the logic of the experts....since the Historian restorers and nautical architects determined the Frigate CONSTITUTION required black deadeyes and lanyards, I tend to replicate all my clippers with the same. Feeling confident I'm not far off from the truth. Rob
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One redeaming fact about the Cutty Sark fire...is that all of her rigging, masts and deck furniture and houses and most details had already been removed. Rob
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Catching up...very nice results......clean and crisp work. Rob
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Amazing metal/wood work....such a pleasure to watch. Rob
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MONTAÑES by Amalio
rwiederrich replied to Amalio's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1751 - 1800
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Affixing the blocks will seam like the longest job you will embark upon...cuz there are just so many. Especially if you are going to rig all your sheets/downhaul/lifts and buntlines. And so it begins...….. Good luck. Rob
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Astronomy. My father, with my help, built the 5" binos in 1974. I inherited them so I wanted to use them in a comfy reclining way...….. So I build a modified dental chair, that rotates and reclines. Rob
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Admitting I'm a shipyard slacky is the easy part....trying to show work, where none has been done is a trick for a magician. I just wanted to let my model brethren know I wasn't just being lazy.... My wife inherited the house, and it needed lots of TLC and some serious upgrades. Here is a pic just after I installed new vinyl windows and removed the old nasty single pain aluminum windows.. No porch roof/veranda or French doors/roof. I the pic I just removed the old 5X6 single pain aluminum window, and replaced with a 6X6...and I removed the old laundry room 2X5 window and replaced with a 3X6. getting ready for the roof. It was just a big flat ugly wall with mismatched T1-11. Had to move electric and completely rebuild the underneath of the big window...lots of dry rot. Rob
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Just a few updates....Like I said earlier...I've been so preoccupied with so many home type jobs I have had no real time to work on the GR....I can only assume I will be back in the shipyard this fall. I do have a friend who I've asked to make the case for the GR. But for your entertainment here are a few pic of what I have been doing. I finished up the front porch and veranda/French door/roof for the front of the house...complete front overhaul and I just finished the cedar decking. I began by installing all the new windows and ended up with the deck. Next....I worked on my second hobby and converted one of my dental chairs into a binocular chair to hold my large 21X127 custom binoculars. I also built the rotating table the chair sits on. I, now have a couple of trees to fall and cut up...... I'm so exhausted. Rob
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Paper works exceptionally well...and is very forgiving. Rob
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I love clippers and I'm getting warn out on Cutty Sark examples. Your Redjacket is done well and is quite refreshing. Rob
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Thanks Nic...I just thought it was easier to treat the shrouds/ratlines as part of the masts and them as one unit....so when I added the yards(Off model), everything would go together nicely and nearly complete. Your approach seams similar....your channel/chainplate work looks very nice too. Rob
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Great job on the offsets....I like the method described...seams very easy....short of turning your own masts with offsets within them. I also like building the masts and adding the ratlines for the top and topgallants off model. I found it far easier to rotate and do the miniature work in its own fice...giving far more access and ease of work. Then you can place the masts and add the main shrouds. Here's a pic of mine done this way before yards and sails. Rob
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So good to see you back and at it hard. Several questions if I may? How did you apply your mast straps(what are they made from?) What is going on with the top mast at the doubling......It appears to be resting on a square post? Is this the simulated stepout the mast head would have to accommodate the lower shrouds? And does not the instructions call for double deadeyes and lanyards for the top shrouds? Some rigging diagrams call for simple bulleyes and stropping...much like what you created. I'm assuming the Redjacket had varnished masts and yards. Your work is wonderful and vary clean and tidy. Rob
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Thanks Pat..I experimented quite a bit to get the lighter green seen below the white caps and then the darker water as the froth and foam clears. Its a plethora of depth and color that I struggled with. Thanks for the fine comment and compliment. I've been so busy with house projects(finishing up the front porch(7X30)), and making chicken coops and farm stuff...that I just don't have enough hours in the day to work on my ships. Not to mention that my ship modeling hobby has to compete with my telescope/astronomy hobby. I'm currently building a mount for my extremely large binoculars to ride on an old converted dental chair....for real good astro viewing. Anyway...again, thanks for your encouragement and comments. Rob(spread thinner than jam on day old bread)
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A bit better image to show the raging sea.
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Thanks Pat. She'll be rigged for foul weather for sure. Like many of the my other builds....ie: Cutty Sark Rudder repair, Ferreira backwater, and the Donald McKay around the Horn...I like to mount my models in actual life events they actually experienced. Not just to mount them on a nicely crafted pedestal mount. I want the viewer to be lured into the history of the ship...not just her beauty. I feel it causes the viewer to be engaged...not only in the fine craftsmanship of the model, but in an historical event associated with the vessel. To bring history alive. I opted to highlight the unique piece of wood I used for the Great Republics mounting....then say the mooring she was scuttled at after she burned to her waterline. I will be returning to the Donald McKay and the Gory of the Seas shortly after I finish the GR. I found it far easier to finish one ship..then to have to set aside all the tooling and parts for the specific ship in leu of the other. Just too much shuffling...since I have only a small portion of the bench in my shop to do work, I'd have to remove the GR entirely from the shop. Thanks for your encouragement. Rob
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Zigg…..I've set her aside till I finish the Great Republic. I really wanted to see how I could tackle open sea water...I had already done the Ferreira on a still backwater. I have done further research on the McKay and I need to redo some windows on the main cabin. Like the GR the McKay had a forward and aft weatherdeck with a gangway that passed over the mid deck with her bulwarks so sailors could easily pass from one deck to the next without going up and down access ladders. I really want to finish her because she will rigged with only heavy weather sails. A powerful impression. Being lured by the dramatic, I wanted viewers to see what big waves might have looked like with a clipper being tossed in them. Not your average model mounting. Here she is on the shelf behind the Great Republic.
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It's been a while since I posted last...sorry for the delay...but I have been tackling some summer jobs, like finishing building the chicken coop and running fence in my lower pasture. The admiral has required my time ashore to be fully engaged in these tasks...not to mention finishing up the front porch decking. Thanks for hanging in there friends.....summer tasks seam to rob me of any time needed to work on the Great Republic. Rob
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Yeah....when I was developing my system...I built a pounce wheel....but the *Puncture* looking holes just looked ridiculous. Plus the indentations are not actually holes but nail heads...recessed from hammering. To simulate this required an ample amount of ingenuity. The reason why I used a press. Great job. Rob
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You're doing a wonderful job. You're almost done.... I couldn't get my head around the nearly 2000 copper plates that were needed for my scratch built Great Republic...so I created my own system, by using copper tape cut into 8" strips and run through a clothes press roller that I modified for the purpose. With a wire mesh gauge and some drywall sanding mesh paper I was able to emboss the nail imprints and plate seams onto the strip, all in one simple pass through the press.. Then all I did was affix them...fast and easy compared to the tedium of single plate work. I also loathed the final shiny copper color...and since the Gr was not covered with copper but with the yellow *muntz* metal plates....I chose to paint over my copper plates with a metallic paint that represented the muntz metal after it has oxidized. It turns a metallic *brown*...instead of the typical greenish wash you see from weathers copper. The Cutty Sark was also coppered in *Muntz* metal NOT copper. When new the muntz metal was quite *Yellow*….more like brass. Here is a pic of my copper strips..ready to be applied to the hull.
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A vary handsome model....and in card...wonderful. Your clear attention to clean gluing and crisp folds is quite telling of your skill. Love it..... and I'm sure it will be loved by the Admiral and will find a place of honor. Rob
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