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I opted to slightly use a greater bend to the iron rail end, because from my own perceptions it just flowed better on the model. On the prototype from the angle we are able to see, the curves appear softer....but that might only be the oblique angle creating that effect. In later images I don't even see the wrought iron sections..... Rob
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All I had was a half an hour, so I placed the aft rail iron works. Rob
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Man Vlad...you are cooking. So many mods and installs, its amazing. I like the carriage house upgrade....it will be amazing when you are finished. I also noticed the boy house addition in one image...... Any pics of that and the main cabin together? I'd love to see the ship in its entirety if possible. Rob
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I completely agree with you. It is the only way we can express our actions. *Transcription errors* in the context of this particular subject constitutes the actual error induced by the human ability or inability and the error that is nearly impossible to eliminate...*scaling*. Sure, I can deduce a prototype measurement of a foot and scale that to 1/8".....but here comes the Rub of the matter.....accurately translating that 1/8" via rule/scale/micrometer/Bowley gauge to the media. Wood, plastic, whatever. And the issue of *closeness* and mental acceptance. I know for a fact that my own skill set limits me at times to accurately replicate in whatever material I'm using....the identical scaled item. So many items that I build, either are slightly compromised or altered to suite my mental limitations of biases. In most cases it translates to my inherent laziness. THAT is the Transcription error, I speak of. To the casual viewer it appears that an *Exact* scaled model is before them...when in reality all it really is, is a good representation based upon the actual vessel that has certain characteristics one may identify with the prototype. All one can do as a modeler is make their model looks as closely to the vessel they are modeling. I hope I have not driven a wedge of confusion into the subject. I'm just anal that way, I guess. Rob
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George...I appreciate your use of thin copper wire to replicate the bars on the windows. I contemplated that for the bars on my Glory skylights, but opted to keep it clean and prevent any unrealistic and out of scale mishaps. As time goes by, and if I some how I ingeniously fabricate something to replicate these brass *cages*, I might consider adding the detail. Your build is coming along so very nicely. It is refreshing to see another McKay clipper coming down the ways. Rob
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I was thinking about your comments, and I couldn't let it go without pointing out one overlooked issue. Transcription errors. Though we have a far better collection of images provided by Mike...it still relies in the hands of the modeler to translate or transcribe that photographic imagery into a believable 3D model. The biomechanic correlation, coupled with synaptic agitation can indeed be an inhibitor when translating what the optic nerve bundle sees to what the brain perceives. Not to mention what the hand creates from all of this. *Reverse Engineering* is a great descriptor, though we do not have the original to handle and measure directly. An NRG article would be a fascinating read if done thoughtful and well. Rob
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I tried to follow Mike’s images the best I could, but I didn’t have half the images we have now. Plus the only large hull available was the Revell CS. So I attempted to correct the most glaring issues, namely the cut water and the angle of the bow……. plus by adding an ample top gallant rail to heighten her sides. I had to live with the incorrect dead rise of the CS hull. So much to modify to maker her remotely accessible to pass off as Glory of the Seas. Those experimental days are behind me. The old model will remain until the new one will replace her and the artifacts will be transferred to her display. Rob
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Thank you so much and for the fine comments. Please remind your father I am most honored by his kind remarks. I am compelled to recreate Glory as best as I can and to honor her by doing my utmost to fully translate photographic evidence into a scaled model. She is my passion. Rob
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Thanks Pat…….I’m trying, but I still am not at the level of your crisp clean Victoria. It could be the scale or just my old hands, but your build is the bar setter…..I’m sure. Rob
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Here is what I did with my first glory. Rob
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Glad. I remember our first conversation about building a Donald McKay clipper. It is so fun to watch how this has all evolved.I remember our first conversation about building a Donald McKay clipper. It is so fun to watch how this has all evolved. I see your plan now that you want to build her as she was originally on the Ways at Donald McKays shipyard. No add one’s, no auxiliary things, just Glory, ready to be launched. splendid! Rob
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Glad, it’s amazing how we are not that far from the same place in construction of our respective builds. It’s fun to see our progress is right on track. And to think we are half way around the world from each other. Rob
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Wonderful progress Vlad…….for sure. So many elements it’s dizzying. I’ve learned so many small details myself. One, that the bumkin’s are square on deck but are turned round once they exit the hull. Kinda like the bowsprit. You are closing in on you final days of construction, if you are going to follow your plan of just making a hull model with stub masts. Are you going to add the dead eyes and chainplates, or stop there? Will you be adding David’s and boats too? I plan on fully completing her……..so I have a very long way to go. You have done masterfully thus far and you should be proud. Wonderful, just wonderful. Rob
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HMCSS Victoria 1855 by BANYAN - 1:72
rwiederrich replied to BANYAN's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
Pat, possibly one side of the haul yard was fixed at the mast head and the chain ran down to split pendant, that then again was secured at one end and the other had the purchase to the deck and or winch? Rob- 993 replies
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I finished up some painting and some touch ups. So much more to do. Rob
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I finished up the skylights and the steps/gratings. Rob
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Thanks jents and thanks everyone for the fine likes. I'll finish up the forward skylight tonight and drill out the mizzen mast hole and probably glue the carriage/helm house down too. That has to be done before I can secure the carriage house aft ladders and gratings can be mounted. But before all that I must make then drill and place the bumpkins. Gotta have a clean deck to do this safely. Rob
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Spent some time rebuilding the skylights. The aft one first. Rob
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Yeah, and they even had the prototype at their disposal to get accurate measurements from. Probably why they chose the CS. Waaaay to much work to start from scratch with a McKay masterpiece. they would have botched it up anyway. Rob
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This must be when she was much older....cuz as originally designed(In 1851), she did not have double topsails, nor sky sails on her fore and mizzen masts. Sweet painting though. Rob
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One reason I prefer 1/96. Its large enough to command presence, but small enough that small minor details such as what is being discussed can be added. Short of completely mimicking photographs such as this for Glory of the Seas. Artistic license, coupled with period practice, should deliver the most probable accurate model. I'm sure it is not beyond the stretch of the imagination that these later models(designs), took some of their own details and practices from models that preceded them. Such as Glory of the Seas. She was in her heyday when the Packard was laid down. Rob
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