Don9of11

Since my first post a little over a month ago, I have been working with Onshape. I created a Free account and I have been steadily learning how to use the program. Anyone with 3D modeling experience should have no difficulty working with this program. There is absolutely no software to download and none of the programs functionality is withheld. I did have to purchase a new graphics card as my old ATI Radeon card did not support webgl. I spent about $60 on a new card. I can pretty much do any task I want on my PC, stream video or music and the modeling is not in anyway hampered by my multi-tasking. I'm have a dual core pentium processor and it handles things very nicely. I can only imagine what the new i3 and i5 chips can do.
 
Anyway, I have spent the last two weeks remodeling my 74 gun ship in Onshape and I have modeled some other interesting parts. The starship Enterprise was an assembly of a SW model I had created several years ago.
 
This is really exciting technology be cause a doing a group build or in this case a group design is a real possibility. Several people can be working on the same part at the same time and all the changes are saved. That's another nice thing about onShape, you never have to save your work, it saves it for you. You can also go back and review every change you ever made or review your entire modeling process. 
 
 

 

 

 

 

 

I was informed of another online CAD program produced by Autodesk the makers of Autocad and Inventor. The program is called Fusion 360.
 
http://www.autodesk.com/products/fusion-360/overview
 
Unlike the OnShape program, Fusion 360 is downloadable. They offer a 30 day free trial and then to continue using it you need to subscribe. Autodesk offers an annual subscription of $25/mo or $40/mo to use it on an as needed basis.
 
Compared to OnShape which has no software to download and they offer a free subcription but limits the number of active part files you can work on at any-one-time. To gain access to unlimited part files the cost is $100/mo.
 
Fusion 360 and OnShape are both parametric CAD programs meaning simply that if you update a dimension in the the model, it updates and changes automatically, no need to redraw anything. Both programs are cloud-based meaning in the simplist of terms, they operate across the internet.
 
OnShape is in the beta stage, does not have the capability of making drawings yet whereas Fusion 360 is fully developed. Each program offer's mobile device support such as your iPhone or iPad, Android or Windows tablet.
 
This is the future of CAD, these programs alone will force the giants in the industry like SolidWorks and Inventor to reduce their cost and maintence fees or face loosing a large part of their user base.

I started using Inventor after the crash and burn of 2015 (that is how I am referring to it)
 
Many moons ago at another company, when we were looking int switching to a 3D program we compared SW to Inventor and the result of that "test" was that a task was completed with SW by executing fewer steps than Inventor and that was perceived as time = $$$.
 
Then I worked at another firm for a year and a half and they use Inventor so I found out a few more things about the program.
I would have to agree with a present working associate that Inventor is the "workhorse", but somehow I still prefer SW for easy of use.
 
(and, not that you asked, but splines will be the death of me)

I am new to the forum and went through this whole posting at once. I am amazed!  I am hoping to learn to do similar 3D modeling using SolidWorks but my ships would be 1860s steamers.  Yours is a really astounding effort!

Since my first post a little over a month ago, I have been working with Onshape. I created a Free account and I have been steadily learning how to use the program. Anyone with 3D modeling experience should have no difficulty working with this program. There is absolutely no software to download and none of the programs functionality is withheld. I did have to purchase a new graphics card as my old ATI Radeon card did not support webgl. I spent about $60 on a new card. I can pretty much do any task I want on my PC, stream video or music and the modeling is not in anyway hampered by my multi-tasking. I'm have a dual core pentium processor and it handles things very nicely. I can only imagine what the new i3 and i5 chips can do.
 
Anyway, I have spent the last two weeks remodeling my 74 gun ship in Onshape and I have modeled some other interesting parts. The starship Enterprise was an assembly of a SW model I had created several years ago.
 
This is really exciting technology be cause a doing a group build or in this case a group design is a real possibility. Several people can be working on the same part at the same time and all the changes are saved. That's another nice thing about onShape, you never have to save your work, it saves it for you. You can also go back and review every change you ever made or review your entire modeling process. 
 
 

 

 

 

 

 

I would start with very simple shapes, like 2x4's or octagons anything with simple shapes and here's why. Starting with something simple will help you learn the controls and features of AUTOCAD. It will teach you where the icons are (if any) and it will help you learn the basic drawing tasks that you'll need to master to later draw your ship plans.
 
Do a search on youTube, there are numerous videos for beginners. As an extra, go to your local library and check out a high school drafting book and try to draw the simple projects they might have in the book. If you do any scroll work learn to draw your scroll patterns.
 
If you try and tackle something big and difficult, you'll get frustrated and discouraged. Don't be in a hurry and just take your time. It might take you a couple of weeks or maybe a couple of months to master enough of autocad to start your ship plans.

Since my first post a little over a month ago, I have been working with Onshape. I created a Free account and I have been steadily learning how to use the program. Anyone with 3D modeling experience should have no difficulty working with this program. There is absolutely no software to download and none of the programs functionality is withheld. I did have to purchase a new graphics card as my old ATI Radeon card did not support webgl. I spent about $60 on a new card. I can pretty much do any task I want on my PC, stream video or music and the modeling is not in anyway hampered by my multi-tasking. I'm have a dual core pentium processor and it handles things very nicely. I can only imagine what the new i3 and i5 chips can do.
 
Anyway, I have spent the last two weeks remodeling my 74 gun ship in Onshape and I have modeled some other interesting parts. The starship Enterprise was an assembly of a SW model I had created several years ago.
 
This is really exciting technology be cause a doing a group build or in this case a group design is a real possibility. Several people can be working on the same part at the same time and all the changes are saved. That's another nice thing about onShape, you never have to save your work, it saves it for you. You can also go back and review every change you ever made or review your entire modeling process. 
 
 

 

 

 

 

 

The Book is out!
 

 
Sea Watch Books and I are very proud to announce the publication of Modeling the extreme Clipper Young America 1853, Volume I.  I think you will find that the book is unique in its description of a fully-framed extreme American clipper - as well as a smaller plank-on-bulkhead version.  As with the Naiad books, the focus of this work is on modeling processes - covered in detail with many photos and drawings.  Eight full sized drawings are included for the two versions as well as a CD containing patterns, detail sheets and other data.  A second volume covering fitting out, masting and rigging is planned.
 
My contribution to the book has included almost three years of research, drafting,modelbuilding, taking a few thousand photos and, of course, writing.  I will let Bob Friedman comment on the effort required by Sea Watch and its various subcontrators.
 
However, apart from this initial announcement, the purpose of this topic is to collect comments, questions, and opinions on the book.  Bob Friedman and I will pay attention to these as the book rolls out and address questions or issues that may arise.  I will use this topic to post any addenda to the work that may become necessary or even just useful.
 
There are plenty of people to thank for help with an effort like this and I hope I have adequately expressed appreciation in the beginning of the book.  The late Bill Crothers (1912-2015) tops my list and therefore deserves additional mention here.  His exhaustive work on the structures of the American clipper ship were a primary resource for me and neither the model nor the book would exist but for his many years of effort and his excellent books.  It was my honor and pleasure to meet with Bill with the framed version of the model in its earlier stages and to discuss various topics by phone on a number of occasions.  I regret that he is not here to see the either the current model or the book.
 
So, comments and questions are most welcome.
 
Ed
 
The book can be found at:
 
http://www.seawatchbooks.com/NewsForthcomingBooks.htm

I had these sitting in my arsenal on cannon carriages. They were handed down to me so I hand them off to you. I don't recall the source but perhaps there is some information you can use.
 

 

 

The drawings I have seen posted remind of the the drawings found in The Built-Up Ship Model by Charles Davis. Also, if you have the novel Six Frigates by Ian Toll, there are several passages about the Enterprise, her commanders and engagements.

The drawings I have seen posted remind of the the drawings found in The Built-Up Ship Model by Charles Davis. Also, if you have the novel Six Frigates by Ian Toll, there are several passages about the Enterprise, her commanders and engagements.

The drawings I have seen posted remind of the the drawings found in The Built-Up Ship Model by Charles Davis. Also, if you have the novel Six Frigates by Ian Toll, there are several passages about the Enterprise, her commanders and engagements.

I was at an estate sale today and picked up a copy of The Bounty Trilogy - Wyeth Edition by Charles Nordhoff & James Norman Hall for $1. It was originally printed 1932 and this copy was printed by the Grosset & Dunlap, Publishers with permission of the Little, Brown and Company, 1945. It has some nice color illustrations and the book consist of the stories of the Mutiny On The Bounty, Men Against the Sea and Pitcairn's Island. The inside cover contains a map of the route taken by the Bounty's Launch and the back inside cover a map of the Bounty's route. This should make for a good read.

I was at an estate sale today and picked up a copy of The Bounty Trilogy - Wyeth Edition by Charles Nordhoff & James Norman Hall for $1. It was originally printed 1932 and this copy was printed by the Grosset & Dunlap, Publishers with permission of the Little, Brown and Company, 1945. It has some nice color illustrations and the book consist of the stories of the Mutiny On The Bounty, Men Against the Sea and Pitcairn's Island. The inside cover contains a map of the route taken by the Bounty's Launch and the back inside cover a map of the Bounty's route. This should make for a good read.

When I was building my model of the Enterprise which was the kit by Constructo (#80822) I came across a couple publications in my research. The first was an article that appeared in the winter 1999 issue of the Journal Of The War Of 1812 by Michael Bosworth. I don't think this paper is in print anymore so if you would like a copy let me know.
 
The second, was an article I found on a website I believe was called The Ancient Mariner, again I don't think this paper is available anymore either.
 
And thirdly, is a book you can download from Google called "The Lucky Little Enterprise" and Her Successors In the United States Navy 1776-1900 by Fredrick Stanhope Hill.  This book is also available through the Internet Archeive https://archive.org/details/luckylittleenter00hilliala.
 
  I have some photos of my build here
 
 
and here
 
http://howefamily.com/zellars_progress_photos/zellars.asp
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

wasn't that Ricky's line to Lucy?

also read the trilogy.  men against the sea is taken from bligh's log.  he was a lieutenant when he was in command of the bounty.  the only person given command that was not a captain.  he was chosen because he was captain cook's cartographer on cook's previous voyages.  the charts he made in the launch were not surpassed in accuracy until there were satelites in space.  

I read thi trilogy as a boy many years ago. The main thing I have taken from it is that,although he may well have been somewhat difficult,Bligh was avery competent seaman. Only a consumate sea officer and leader could have accomplished what he did. If I found myself voyaging to the largely unknown side of the planet, I would choose Captain Bligh to lead the expedition.

I bought this book many years ago at Barnes & Noble. One dollar for a 690 pages book is a steal. If I remember correctly, I paid for mine around 15 dlls. Hard cover, brand new. I did read it from cover to cover.

I was at an estate sale today and picked up a copy of The Bounty Trilogy - Wyeth Edition by Charles Nordhoff & James Norman Hall for $1. It was originally printed 1932 and this copy was printed by the Grosset & Dunlap, Publishers with permission of the Little, Brown and Company, 1945. It has some nice color illustrations and the book consist of the stories of the Mutiny On The Bounty, Men Against the Sea and Pitcairn's Island. The inside cover contains a map of the route taken by the Bounty's Launch and the back inside cover a map of the Bounty's route. This should make for a good read.

I was informed of another online CAD program produced by Autodesk the makers of Autocad and Inventor. The program is called Fusion 360.
 
http://www.autodesk.com/products/fusion-360/overview
 
Unlike the OnShape program, Fusion 360 is downloadable. They offer a 30 day free trial and then to continue using it you need to subscribe. Autodesk offers an annual subscription of $25/mo or $40/mo to use it on an as needed basis.
 
Compared to OnShape which has no software to download and they offer a free subcription but limits the number of active part files you can work on at any-one-time. To gain access to unlimited part files the cost is $100/mo.
 
Fusion 360 and OnShape are both parametric CAD programs meaning simply that if you update a dimension in the the model, it updates and changes automatically, no need to redraw anything. Both programs are cloud-based meaning in the simplist of terms, they operate across the internet.
 
OnShape is in the beta stage, does not have the capability of making drawings yet whereas Fusion 360 is fully developed. Each program offer's mobile device support such as your iPhone or iPad, Android or Windows tablet.
 
This is the future of CAD, these programs alone will force the giants in the industry like SolidWorks and Inventor to reduce their cost and maintence fees or face loosing a large part of their user base.

That's a great resource Don thanks! I think you did a fine job with the Constructo kit, adding some nice customizations and a more accurate color scheme. 

When I was building my model of the Enterprise which was the kit by Constructo (#80822) I came across a couple publications in my research. The first was an article that appeared in the winter 1999 issue of the Journal Of The War Of 1812 by Michael Bosworth. I don't think this paper is in print anymore so if you would like a copy let me know.
 
The second, was an article I found on a website I believe was called The Ancient Mariner, again I don't think this paper is available anymore either.
 
And thirdly, is a book you can download from Google called "The Lucky Little Enterprise" and Her Successors In the United States Navy 1776-1900 by Fredrick Stanhope Hill.  This book is also available through the Internet Archeive https://archive.org/details/luckylittleenter00hilliala.
 
  I have some photos of my build here
 
 
and here
 
http://howefamily.com/zellars_progress_photos/zellars.asp
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

When I was building my model of the Enterprise which was the kit by Constructo (#80822) I came across a couple publications in my research. The first was an article that appeared in the winter 1999 issue of the Journal Of The War Of 1812 by Michael Bosworth. I don't think this paper is in print anymore so if you would like a copy let me know.
 
The second, was an article I found on a website I believe was called The Ancient Mariner, again I don't think this paper is available anymore either.
 
And thirdly, is a book you can download from Google called "The Lucky Little Enterprise" and Her Successors In the United States Navy 1776-1900 by Fredrick Stanhope Hill.  This book is also available through the Internet Archeive https://archive.org/details/luckylittleenter00hilliala.
 
  I have some photos of my build here
 
 
and here
 
http://howefamily.com/zellars_progress_photos/zellars.asp
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

When I was building my model of the Enterprise which was the kit by Constructo (#80822) I came across a couple publications in my research. The first was an article that appeared in the winter 1999 issue of the Journal Of The War Of 1812 by Michael Bosworth. I don't think this paper is in print anymore so if you would like a copy let me know.
 
The second, was an article I found on a website I believe was called The Ancient Mariner, again I don't think this paper is available anymore either.
 
And thirdly, is a book you can download from Google called "The Lucky Little Enterprise" and Her Successors In the United States Navy 1776-1900 by Fredrick Stanhope Hill.  This book is also available through the Internet Archeive https://archive.org/details/luckylittleenter00hilliala.
 
  I have some photos of my build here
 
 
and here
 
http://howefamily.com/zellars_progress_photos/zellars.asp