Vladimir_Wairoa
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Folks, its been some time I checked few progresses on yours , happy to see some updates...... I have few small updates though. First, finally my batch of PEAR wood for decking is about to arrive this week so I am pretty excited. after i recovered from captains cabin overkill, I moved to the rudder and bow and stained gratings which I like. I think planking deck will take a long while i dont want to rush it, so I wont post anytime soon, and finally I have to order those carved stuff, i should have a long ago as pointing figurehead now will be surprise but thats me...obvious. one thing. I am glad I didnt go for Chuck proper way to put paper on those cheeks...I realized I would have messed up gluing tiny papers on round wood. It is difficult part for me... Instead, I labored., FIrst I painted those with pastel blue, but was not satisfied, with color shade and it was not permanent. I mixed oil colors where is it a breeze to catch any shade of blue in a spot...and voila I am quite happy. I still have to work on clean outcome of work and should have painted blue before gluing both sides but...I managed to clean it with turpentine thankfully... I must say there is visible joint of those two timbers without covering it with paper.,distracting at first glance as it draws sight to it but I think with ornamentals it will be different......but there is one on old prototype as well. depends on how you look at it. I managed to make one realy fine but other is not that perfect which is killing me but at the end i cant have it perfect. one important thing. angling is really important with these ,,....and i didnt dare to drill holes. I will leave it black. and there will never be an anchor going thru . happy with black paint telling what it is..started working on rudder lately.....here it goes...
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exactly what i was afterward thinking of. it might visual deception of turning curvature downward but . i see it on cutty sark model looking at her only from very very very bottom - then it is evident. hovewer looking straight at level angle it raises steadily. sooo.....
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beautiful lines. looking somehow familiar... but what i find interesting is somewhat slight drop of topgallant rail after constant rise towards bow watching from aft forward. very very sharp stem angle of McKay.what I find most interesting in these ships is accomodation of bowsprit. after closer look bowsprit is almost square at the insert and square going thru knighthead i think. not sure though.
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youre welcome Richard. i counld decipher that as well. didnt find more here. if i find something ill post. https://www.rmg.co.uk/national-maritime-museum From what I understand glorys stern was originally highly decorated with carvings ( impossible to see ) but later it was simplified with just name of the ship, is that right?
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lovely pics. Yes I rememver i saw Clintons original pics and story back when modeling cutty. I was even more taken by his stern design. Its part of history that conservative society as victorian London didnt get away with erotic-witch etc portrayal, its obvious that nowadays its different.
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wonderful. she is one of loveliest figureheads there is.
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Very ineteresting link thanks Richard. If you managed to sketch Athene for 3d print it would be godsend. if that smaller Nannie is 3d printed its fabulous. i intend to install on 1:72 glory nothing short of spectacular, and im not about to try even remembering how tough was nannie for cutty i carved. - which has been leaving me till now without thinking of figurehead. what i was thinking about was some sort of existing athenes figures of greek tourists souvenirs, ...but it would be rubbish.
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beautiful cannons Bob. congrats.
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what a machine. i envy you Ron. in a good sense enjoy.
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haha interesting, i feel lik todler among you and Rob as well , when it comes to knowledge so there must be balance in the world. meaning i will always have a easy questions to ask...
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Rob I will probably sand off the plywood keel to thin it. and will see if i can manage ˇ will be balck painted anyway i guess glorys hull was black. therefore i see no big issue here. there is already curvature underneath of athene feet laser cut and marking lines where ornamentals and navalhood exactly go with lines where stem thickens between navalhood and below ornamenta...i will stick with that personaly.
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Thanks guys. I started woodworking with violins, than tried to my first ship - without any knowledge about ship modeling. - croziers hms terror. i never showed i to anyone and i dont intend to than i made 1:24 enormous cutty sark with same strategy knowing even less about modeling but in the process of it i jumped here on msw and shifted my approach so i started to observe what other ps are doing to make it easier for me. believe or not i managed to sell her so I can finance these hobbies easily. / which i would never attempt to with glory. hms winchelsea here on group project is my 3rd attempt. im near the wrap . next to be magnificent glory that i intend to dedicate to her a couple of years . i am basically novice and totally inexpereince in rigging - where Rob excels both in cleanlines and aesthetic mastery. in my view. ill try to find some photos of violin though. i also paint. that is my main hobby though, one day thinking of trIng maritime. i am focused portraits -= self taught though. thats about me. i think i have a video of making violin... few photos
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I have recently planked 18 century frigate Guys, with all the hot bending and tapering. advantage of it is no sanding needed no mess but its tedious. all to measured and i have iron bender for violin making so it wa OK. but i think its not something that suits Robs quick approach so each to his own same thickness of planks i intend to use for glory. its 5 mm planks.
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Thank for inside Richard. I already stumbled to his website so i will be checking on it. I am finally after 2 years of longing getting book from Crothers american build clipper ship on my birthday so i am over the mood to be able study that one in winter for start.
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well being from coutry in what perimeter only " cutty sark was known as clipper" i never heard of american clipper till than - which wasnt wooden vessel for the start...missing epitome of what wooden clipper era meant i missed. i admire wooden vessels much more and final mastering of wooden craft and clippers of america is unsurpassed obviously . There is so much to learn and appreciate from design, carpentery, wood cabinetry, glorious style and modernity of wooden building...fantastic...
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vice versa . Not meeting you here Id probably never heard of glory of the seas. you know that story from the start :))
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Huh Rob you work fast. Id prefer my book as it is old american library item with a stamps on it and has nice smell i got it second hand if you get what i mean. But no worries lets see how quick are those models cuts. Maybe next week , but again with covid airlines i expect 1 month voyage to u.s. so i dont know l. It is ok for me either way. Just let me know you wish 1/96 and Richard as well right? So i can let the guy know...thx
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it is no problem for him to have them cut in 1/96. so?
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Rob thanks for nice words its everyones bit i would be able to get it together without you and Richard. i like that flat fat bottom of her the most, but probably sleek and very clippery stern as well and now also bow with nice curvature. regarding cuts - i will send it both to your adress Rob, as it sould be say cheaper than sending 2 packages one by one. i think youd and Richard woudl Agree. so you can resend it in states far easier after they arrived. it would be easier with payments dfor me as well or whatever you wish...we can asrrange that in PMs. V.
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what a reaction im still perplexed myself sitting in room and staring at skeleton as kids for getting christmass. i dont remember last time i was so thrilled myself ... nothing tocompensate just price for making those and delivery thatsit. im sure you will help me to get book signed by Michael Mjelde if i send you that one too for signing. thats the favour id ask for return maybe
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Guys its fascinating you can spot all the perspective deformation bow ans stern are smaller than in reality etc... photographed with mobile phone wide angle from very near. anyway, we can already engloy very subtle rise of stern and graciously rise of her body towards bow Anyway I wish to express a thank to Michael Mjelde for designing the shape and bulkheads in first place, we only changed few parameters but It wont be posssible without him. it is his design in 90 percent of course. waterline?
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Now folks. Package got in. Shivers down my spine, ... Here it goes. To sum up. Bulkheafs fits in just about perfectly they are snug to the point they dojt woble but they can be takeout withput extensive force. Look at the bulkhead no3 just after 3 closer bow bulkheads i modified Michaels curve just a little in favour of little less agressivness i need to run soke strip along to see the effect. . Center section is without any flaw. Rear section, there needs to be 1 bulkhead little lifted to follow beauty of sheer byt nothing painful just by eye. Anf forward section centerline is tad a bit higher than bulkheads floor as i didnt coreected that one in computer. Can be easily sanded off its small passage. i run strip of wood as sheer rearwise you can see drop and place for waterway underneath from 13 bulkhead forward...so pretty happy overall.
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Rob, it will be a pretty small small package almost letter in 1:96. im sure Guy will be happy to cut one more. I ll inform you ij advence how much it will be total and if ok After it arrived to you you can put me money on paypal. No problem whatsoever. I think its not worth to have it cut manually when it is already laser pre made . ..
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would be my pleasure to send you those...just send me your email by private message pls. i will check bulkheads when they arrived before :)) to check so they fit correctly and then i will send you those by email. i dont want to blame myself in advance :)))) is @Druxey interested as well?
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i think its amazing what you achieved Rob . looking at my cutty hull at home its not easy thing to modify one. quite exceptional. back that time i didnt know modeling exists V.
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