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Rob , with this speed you will have ship built before bulkheads arrived :D. I was talking to guy if its already cut but he told me he had lots of work last weekend so didnt find have time for it. We have to understand he is doing it in weekend windows next to regular job. please one little bit of patience. I will check after this weekend. V.
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Rob, I always admired your own unique way and ability not to compete in any way. And tried to learn from it in a good/my way. I myself dont follow the ( in my opinion somehow broken) philosophy that there is only one way to Rome and paved with same stones.
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That is exactly what i meant Richard. You know i myself was lately playing with 3D modeling figures. even antique figures for that reason so we could have precious arm and body pose to it and even toga overall dressed up but i lacked inspiration to continue for the same reason. at one point never in history was individual so close and fast from idea to finished product just as cnc or 3D printing allows, say even miniature face glipms or facial expression taken in miniature form. but it takes life from it bigger way that it seems. as original hand carved there are hands and eyes of sculptor to breathe life to wooden girl, its tradeoff of modern technologies that minds eyes and hand are detached from the object the way that only hand can say. there is danger in eprfection everyone wants to achieve - there is humsn imperfection in perfection that breathes life to it. your hand nameboard resemble that life computer one lacks....at least my thoughts of it... fro that i will proabyo tr to find a way to make my own one as well. but hoepw are not high though
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Thanks Richard. Rob achieved something spectacularly authentic didnt he? I think that as well.
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Rob you ate way too harsch on yourself indeed. its phenomenal. ! Carving in that scale is something extremely difficult and requires bloody skill i remember that from carving cutty sark bloody difficult ornamentals. You did put even beautiful face detailing with clear proportions and that is really something. hat off and i mean it. body proportions and hand reaching behind the head i would say it has more value than any 3d print as its handwork! i guess that secret magic lies somewhere in your teeth special instruments you have but its great!
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oh my god, oh my god, thats an important photographs first of its kind to show her stern from the angle we can feel the curvature or rail. Thank you folks. V.
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Ron, thanks for reply. Those are bought planks. i dont have saw to cut those. 1 mm thick so I can take off of them with calm mind but well. good idea to put aside few planks and try first... as you can spot I already tried to sand off of that center part but its quite firm wood to sand. on the positive side, it doesnt fuzzy at all so it should be beautifully clean ans smooth when done right. i think sanding with 200 grit should do. im a bit hesitant scrape it as some wood is along some across grain. only if very lightly. i am about to get new sanding paper tmw but still have lots to plank. Thanks for stopping by, i tried something disturbing at first going with pear deck but for me it doesnt distract colorwise. will see.
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i guess id need an advice / help guys. as you can see from the pics Floor looks horrible untreated. there are spots after sawblade and planks are not uniformly thick. what do you suggest i should do? sand it of some sort i guess. i normally sand it 100 to 200 gritt and thats it. after i apply hardwax oil. thats all. what comes to my mind i did once was scraping surface after sanding with razor blade which worked on walnut quite well maybe i will try that as well...not sure. By the way i think it eas last time i worked with pear wood. its so breakable and tough across the grain ( obviously) but nothing for cutting planks by hand. ill stay with poor lime, baswood whatever despite of fuzziness. but lobe love the tone of oiled pear wood so once im done i need to treat it somehow... Rustys pear planks are gorgeous. do you any proved suggestion please? thank you All.
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Richard its lovely, clapping hands. amazing rendition of the letters. woohoo. should i digitalize it ? i would maybe render S a little less rounder as chisel keeps sharp edges defined at every turn but im over the moon.
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Beautiful approach and execution Druxey. thx for sharing.
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Dear all, this is beginning of bringing to life one of most famous and beautiful vessel of American gold era of clipper lineage, last D. McKays clipper. She materialized same year as British cutty sark, being medium clipper of 2000 something tons, cutty sark should be a little smaller sibling sister of distant world comparing to it. But composite not wooden with different buidling philosophy and tradition and innovations far apart of what was going on in new world. Some brief introduction needed. Its been one and a half years now of my modeling and joining this great site of maritime interest. This attempt started boldly with enthusiasm and knowledge of few great skilled folks around Rob Wiedderich, (not included myself, im merely just a fan ) and effort has lasted now about for one year of research, It wouldnt have been without everyone passion to question and doubt every single measurement and photograph thew to the table. It must be stated that Michael Mjelde , the last authority of Glory subject helped himself to this effort, providing some rare unpublished photographs to be seen, measured and calculated. His design of bulkheads was used but reshaped to the point, that bearing in mind there were not merely all photographs available in time of his drawing, various aspects of vessel were significantly redesigned. Mostly speaking of stern and bow profile, sheer line gradients on aft and forwards. Since I built cutty in almost no shipmodeling skills, I learn a bits from Chucks group installments atm. I helped guys to draw lines in program and knowing folk that can laser cut, challenge rose to have her done. After hull is completed we intend to continue research and program draw her deck installments, as true as possible. I myself want to have hull completed by end of this year to the milestone of famous McKays launch photography to be able to celebrate with folks interested around christmas. Thats for this years plan. Work continues lately on designing glorys figurehead , once it is successful we would like her to be 3D printed of some sort. Design of ship will follow model shipways fantastic method of clipper building and drawing followed that method in mind... My enthusiasm rose with few categories. First, I am truly happy that not another flying fish clipper is to be built, but a NEW vessel. And it wouldnt be without books of Michael Mjelde, and his writing ability to almost personify and breath live to story which itself it so fascinating and true. be it her birth as last McKays attempt to gamble on his debts by putting all effort to make the best of his hands, at the verge of era that finally won against him, but ship herself proved to be so well built and successful throughout her life. and tragic end of course that is sad part of her story. Clippers remain my favourites in ships, and I intend to build her to my very best with some very best of materials ans boxwood for moldings....be it even few years...but when I have window, I can speed up for sure. Thank you everyone interested in advance, I think Rob and Richard are building as well, and everyone is encourage to build one for himself as well. " An account of the ship in Boston and San Francisco newspapers in 1869 : This is a magnificent vessel of 2102 tons register, with capacity to carry double that amount of california freight. She has three decks, with all her acxcomodations on the upper deck, and is of a splendid model to carry and sail. Her bow has a bold, dashy rake, with lightly concave lines below, but convex above and terminates in a full femae classical figure with flowing drapery. The stern is curylinear, finely formed, and the run is long and clean and sets gracefully into fullness of the hull. The stern is tastefully ornamented with gilded carved work on a black ground. viewedd broadside she has all imposing majesty of a ship of war, combined with the airy buyoancy of a clipper. Every seam of her planking harmonizes beautifully with her sheer, everyone who has any idea of nautical beauty and grandeur combined, cannot fail to admire her. Her talented builder Mr.Donald McKay has produced many splendid vessels, but we consider this one an improvement of them all. Not only on account of her matchless beauty, but also on account of her great strength, and completeness of her equipment. she is 250 ft long, LBP, 265ft LOA, and 44 ft beam, 28 ft 6 inches depoth of hold, with three full decks. here are some bits from designing.... Chapter 1. centerline I tried to make sure keel line is straight, and fastened 2 pine blocks over laser cut joint as it was still a bit wobbly. its 6 mm poplar, amazingly light and breeeze to sand off. Centerline is ready to put rabbet line and stem to be thinned to propriate thickness. apology for long post, it was introduction so next it will be very short. hopefully soon Thanks, Vlad
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Thank you Bob. wooow it is there on the wall in 2. minute with all the glory
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even I dont uneerstand it in true sense folks i feel you share also some good humor, which i like really. I arleady started Keith. just lazy to open topic :))
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Folks, some happy thinking ahead of building... Did you think about finish you are commit to her? Black ? Original launch color? Im really thinking longer about that as to use some beautiful natural wood as pear or make justice to typical clipper of McKay era. Blue on waterway etc..so for me ut comes like this. Either declare colors or...go with wood - light or dark...what do you think?
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Guys, why noone warned me that this will be toughest ? . I mean toughest. Im glad that i skipped this in hull...i ruined few planks before made it watchable for myself. But it was barely watchable closeup. I ruined cuple and made only 2 planks for entire day !!!! Third went better with some workaround. I feel Its constant battle with myself and winnie. I dont wanna loose it. Its really beautiful when done well but Who invented that ? Well my first of these...thankfully done! Yay. Now Only thinning planks. I think im done.:) i hope worst is over. Line is straight so contiuing should be without pain. I made center plank thin as didnt have different measured of planks... .
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Rob,Richard, request to cut bulkheads was already made . Guy needs to order plywood of apropriate thickness. Once I hear back from him I will ship those. Interesting clamps. I use those black pins for stacking paper sheets. V.
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Folks, its been some time I checked few progresses on yours , happy to see some updates...... I have few small updates though. First, finally my batch of PEAR wood for decking is about to arrive this week so I am pretty excited. after i recovered from captains cabin overkill, I moved to the rudder and bow and stained gratings which I like. I think planking deck will take a long while i dont want to rush it, so I wont post anytime soon, and finally I have to order those carved stuff, i should have a long ago as pointing figurehead now will be surprise but thats me...obvious. one thing. I am glad I didnt go for Chuck proper way to put paper on those cheeks...I realized I would have messed up gluing tiny papers on round wood. It is difficult part for me... Instead, I labored., FIrst I painted those with pastel blue, but was not satisfied, with color shade and it was not permanent. I mixed oil colors where is it a breeze to catch any shade of blue in a spot...and voila I am quite happy. I still have to work on clean outcome of work and should have painted blue before gluing both sides but...I managed to clean it with turpentine thankfully... I must say there is visible joint of those two timbers without covering it with paper.,distracting at first glance as it draws sight to it but I think with ornamentals it will be different......but there is one on old prototype as well. depends on how you look at it. I managed to make one realy fine but other is not that perfect which is killing me but at the end i cant have it perfect. one important thing. angling is really important with these ,,....and i didnt dare to drill holes. I will leave it black. and there will never be an anchor going thru . happy with black paint telling what it is..started working on rudder lately.....here it goes...
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