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Richard its lovely, clapping hands. amazing rendition of the letters. woohoo. should i digitalize it ? i would maybe render S a little less rounder as chisel keeps sharp edges defined at every turn but im over the moon.

Beautiful approach and execution Druxey. thx for sharing.

Dear all, this is beginning of bringing to life one of most famous and beautiful vessel of American gold era of clipper lineage, last D. McKays clipper. She materialized same year as British cutty sark, being medium clipper of 2000 something tons, cutty sark should be a little smaller sibling sister of distant world comparing to it. But composite not wooden with different buidling philosophy and tradition and innovations far apart of what was going on in new world. Some brief introduction needed. Its been one and a half years now of my modeling and joining this great site of maritime interest. This attempt started boldly with enthusiasm and knowledge of few great skilled folks around Rob Wiedderich, (not included myself, im merely just a fan ) and effort has lasted now about for one year of research, It wouldnt have been without everyone passion to question and doubt every single measurement and photograph thew to the table. It must be stated that Michael Mjelde , the last authority of Glory subject helped himself to this effort, providing some rare unpublished photographs to be seen, measured and calculated. His design of bulkheads was used but reshaped to the point, that bearing in mind there were not merely all photographs available in time of his drawing, various aspects of vessel were significantly redesigned. Mostly speaking of stern and bow profile, sheer line gradients on aft and forwards. Since I built cutty in almost no shipmodeling skills, I learn a bits from Chucks group installments atm. I helped guys to draw lines in program and knowing folk that can laser cut, challenge rose to have her done. After hull is completed we intend to continue research and program draw her deck installments, as true as possible. I myself want to have hull completed by end of this year to the milestone of famous McKays launch photography to be able to celebrate with folks interested around christmas. Thats for this years plan. Work continues lately on designing glorys figurehead , once it is successful we would like her to be 3D printed of some sort. Design of ship will follow model shipways fantastic method of clipper building and drawing followed that method in mind... My enthusiasm rose with few categories. First, I am truly happy that not another flying fish clipper is to be built, but a NEW vessel. And it wouldnt be without books of Michael Mjelde, and his writing ability to almost personify and breath live to story which itself it so fascinating and true. be it her birth as last McKays attempt to gamble on his debts by putting all effort to make the best of his hands, at the verge of era that finally won against him, but ship herself proved to be so well built and successful throughout her life. and tragic end of course that is sad part of her story. Clippers remain my favourites in ships, and I intend to build her to my very best with some very best of materials ans boxwood for moldings....be it even few years...but when I have window, I can speed up for sure. Thank you everyone interested in advance, I think Rob and Richard are building as well, and everyone is encourage to build one for himself as well. " An account of the ship in Boston and San Francisco newspapers in 1869 : This is a magnificent vessel of 2102 tons register, with capacity to carry double that amount of california freight. She has three decks, with all her acxcomodations on the upper deck, and is of a splendid model to carry and sail. Her bow has a bold, dashy rake, with lightly concave lines below, but convex above and terminates in a full femae classical figure with flowing drapery. The stern is curylinear, finely formed, and the run is long and clean and sets gracefully into fullness of the hull. The stern is tastefully ornamented with gilded carved work on a black ground. viewedd broadside she has all imposing majesty of a ship of war, combined with the airy buyoancy of a clipper. Every seam of her planking harmonizes beautifully with her sheer, everyone who has any idea of nautical beauty and grandeur combined, cannot fail to admire her. Her talented builder Mr.Donald McKay has produced many splendid vessels, but we consider this one an improvement of them all. Not only on account of her matchless beauty, but also on account of her great strength, and completeness of her equipment. she is 250 ft long, LBP, 265ft LOA, and 44 ft beam, 28 ft 6 inches depoth of hold, with three full decks. here are some bits from designing.... Chapter 1. centerline I tried to make sure keel line is straight, and fastened 2 pine blocks over laser cut joint as it was still a bit wobbly. its 6 mm poplar, amazingly light and breeeze to sand off. Centerline is ready to put rabbet line and stem to be thinned to propriate thickness. apology for long post, it was introduction so next it will be very short. hopefully soon Thanks, Vlad

Thank you Bob. wooow it is there on the wall in 2. minute with all the glory

even I dont uneerstand it in true sense folks i feel you share also some good humor, which i like really. I arleady started Keith. just lazy to open topic :))

Folks, some happy thinking ahead of building... Did you think about finish you are commit to her? Black ? Original launch color? Im really thinking longer about that as to use some beautiful natural wood as pear or make justice to typical clipper of McKay era. Blue on waterway etc..so for me ut comes like this. Either declare colors or...go with wood - light or dark...what do you think?

Guys, why noone warned me that this will be toughest ? . I mean toughest. Im glad that i skipped this in hull...i ruined few planks before made it watchable for myself. But it was barely watchable closeup. I ruined cuple and made only 2 planks for entire day !!!! Third went better with some workaround. I feel Its constant battle with myself and winnie. I dont wanna loose it. Its really beautiful when done well but Who invented that ? Well my first of these...thankfully done! Yay. Now Only thinning planks. I think im done.:) i hope worst is over. Line is straight so contiuing should be without pain. I made center plank thin as didnt have different measured of planks... .

Rob,Richard, request to cut bulkheads was already made . Guy needs to order plywood of apropriate thickness. Once I hear back from him I will ship those. Interesting clamps. I use those black pins for stacking paper sheets. V.

Thank you Bob, all.

Folks, its been some time I checked few progresses on yours , happy to see some updates...... I have few small updates though. First, finally my batch of PEAR wood for decking is about to arrive this week so I am pretty excited. after i recovered from captains cabin overkill, I moved to the rudder and bow and stained gratings which I like. I think planking deck will take a long while i dont want to rush it, so I wont post anytime soon, and finally I have to order those carved stuff, i should have a long ago as pointing figurehead now will be surprise but thats me...obvious. one thing. I am glad I didnt go for Chuck proper way to put paper on those cheeks...I realized I would have messed up gluing tiny papers on round wood. It is difficult part for me... Instead, I labored., FIrst I painted those with pastel blue, but was not satisfied, with color shade and it was not permanent. I mixed oil colors where is it a breeze to catch any shade of blue in a spot...and voila I am quite happy. I still have to work on clean outcome of work and should have painted blue before gluing both sides but...I managed to clean it with turpentine thankfully... I must say there is visible joint of those two timbers without covering it with paper.,distracting at first glance as it draws sight to it but I think with ornamentals it will be different......but there is one on old prototype as well. depends on how you look at it. I managed to make one realy fine but other is not that perfect which is killing me but at the end i cant have it perfect. one important thing. angling is really important with these ,,....and i didnt dare to drill holes. I will leave it black. and there will never be an anchor going thru . happy with black paint telling what it is..started working on rudder lately.....here it goes...

exactly what i was afterward thinking of. it might visual deception of turning curvature downward but . i see it on cutty sark model looking at her only from very very very bottom - then it is evident. hovewer looking straight at level angle it raises steadily. sooo.....

beautiful lines. looking somehow familiar... but what i find interesting is somewhat slight drop of topgallant rail after constant rise towards bow watching from aft forward. very very sharp stem angle of McKay.what I find most interesting in these ships is accomodation of bowsprit. after closer look bowsprit is almost square at the insert and square going thru knighthead i think. not sure though.

youre welcome Richard. i counld decipher that as well. didnt find more here. if i find something ill post. https://www.rmg.co.uk/national-maritime-museum From what I understand glorys stern was originally highly decorated with carvings ( impossible to see ) but later it was simplified with just name of the ship, is that right?

lovely pics. Yes I rememver i saw Clintons original pics and story back when modeling cutty. I was even more taken by his stern design. Its part of history that conservative society as victorian London didnt get away with erotic-witch etc portrayal, its obvious that nowadays its different.

wonderful. she is one of loveliest figureheads there is.

Very ineteresting link thanks Richard. If you managed to sketch Athene for 3d print it would be godsend. if that smaller Nannie is 3d printed its fabulous. i intend to install on 1:72 glory nothing short of spectacular, and im not about to try even remembering how tough was nannie for cutty i carved. - which has been leaving me till now without thinking of figurehead. what i was thinking about was some sort of existing athenes figures of greek tourists souvenirs, ...but it would be rubbish.

beautiful cannons Bob. congrats.

what a machine. i envy you Ron. in a good sense enjoy.

haha interesting, i feel lik todler among you and Rob as well , when it comes to knowledge so there must be balance in the world. meaning i will always have a easy questions to ask...

Rob I will probably sand off the plywood keel to thin it. and will see if i can manage ˇ will be balck painted anyway i guess glorys hull was black. therefore i see no big issue here. there is already curvature underneath of athene feet laser cut and marking lines where ornamentals and navalhood exactly go with lines where stem thickens between navalhood and below ornamenta...i will stick with that personaly.

Thanks guys. I started woodworking with violins, than tried to my first ship - without any knowledge about ship modeling. - croziers hms terror. i never showed i to anyone and i dont intend to than i made 1:24 enormous cutty sark with same strategy knowing even less about modeling but in the process of it i jumped here on msw and shifted my approach so i started to observe what other ps are doing to make it easier for me. believe or not i managed to sell her so I can finance these hobbies easily. / which i would never attempt to with glory. hms winchelsea here on group project is my 3rd attempt. im near the wrap . next to be magnificent glory that i intend to dedicate to her a couple of years . i am basically novice and totally inexpereince in rigging - where Rob excels both in cleanlines and aesthetic mastery. in my view. ill try to find some photos of violin though. i also paint. that is my main hobby though, one day thinking of trIng maritime. i am focused portraits -= self taught though. thats about me. i think i have a video of making violin... few photos

I have recently planked 18 century frigate Guys, with all the hot bending and tapering. advantage of it is no sanding needed no mess but its tedious. all to measured and i have iron bender for violin making so it wa OK. but i think its not something that suits Robs quick approach so each to his own same thickness of planks i intend to use for glory. its 5 mm planks.

Thank for inside Richard. I already stumbled to his website so i will be checking on it. I am finally after 2 years of longing getting book from Crothers american build clipper ship on my birthday so i am over the mood to be able study that one in winter for start.

well being from coutry in what perimeter only " cutty sark was known as clipper" i never heard of american clipper till than - which wasnt wooden vessel for the start...missing epitome of what wooden clipper era meant i missed. i admire wooden vessels much more and final mastering of wooden craft and clippers of america is unsurpassed obviously . There is so much to learn and appreciate from design, carpentery, wood cabinetry, glorious style and modernity of wooden building...fantastic...