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Oh OK Ian. I looked back. I remember now. Thanks for the reminder. I still don’t remember all the terms and names of parts and have to scroll back or ask questions. 😊
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Ok Ian I am still learning nautical terms. Your last comment “feed that main tack through the chess tree” might have went over my head! 😊
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Thanks Ian. That is an interesting idea doing it in reverse. Never thought about doing it that way! Have been away from my Victory for almost a week. Went on a little family trip to beautiful Kentucky Lake. For some reason my wife would not let me bring it along to work on! How inconsiderate was that? 😀 Since returning to my “ship yard” I have modified the channels as recommended by Daniel and installed them. After what has seemed like forever I am close to finishing Step 9!
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I am still a long way from mast and rigging but I am curious for discussion purposes which method you guys prefer during your builds reference masts and their standing rigging? I see on MSW that builders use various sequences to complete this task. Do you prefer to work your way up gradually from the deck by installing the bottom portion of the mast and then the shrouds for that section, and then the middle section of each mast, and so on? Do you build the complete mast off the ship, then install it followed by all the rigging? Or do you build the complete mast on the ship and then start all the rigging? I am wondering with the need to add Daniel’s etched parts for the mast if it is better/easier to build the mast off the ship but then I consider how much easier it is to loop the shrouds around the top of the bottom section before adding the middle section. This same curiosity includes the installation of the yards on the mast. When do you prefer to do it? I am going to attempt making those rigging pieces used to hold the yards to the mast (I forget what they are called) since Heller does not provide an anchor point for the yards. Is this better to do all the yards on the mast with the mast not on the ship or one at a time working my way up with mast on the ship? And final thought now (definitely not final thought on the subject, just right now😊), are the yards raked off perpendicular to the hull, and if so about what degree? I am guessing this is personal preference and if the ship is with or without sails, and furled or not. I am considering furling all the sails to enable seeing all the rigging and internal delicate work. Not sure yet. I would then guess if I am going to rake the yards it would have to be once mast is installed on the ship in order to get uniform angle. Like I said, a lot of mast, yard, and rigging curiosity for opinion and discussion on a Fall Saturday morning. 😊
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Thanks Marc. As an old retired guy I have the luxury of spending some time every day if I want.
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Ok gentlemen right, wrong, or indifferent I put copper and nail “holes” on the belfry, quarter galleries, and beak head. I think it looks pretty cool and matches the copper hull. Zooming in I can tell I need to add some additional nail heads. Also have my new rail around the stair case opening.
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Thanks Ian. The replacement part source is good to know. I found the Heller rail and post to be pretty fragile anyway so I just made something a bit stronger once I paint it black no one will know. Unfortunately a section of the original rail and post is down on the Upper deck somewhere as it fell in the opening never to be retrieved! 🤨 That is a curiosity I have and have so far been fortunate enough to be able to get out. I have a few times now bumped a cannon barrel hard enough to dislodge it from the carriage and have it go into the ship. Since I have not glued the stern in place yet I have been able to get to it. Once I put the stern on and close the decks up anything knocked loose will be forever lost if below the upper deck. I guess in that case you just close the hatch. Ian there are 3 places I painted to look like an old metal (lead color roof). The belfry, the roofs of the quarter galleries, and the 2 side sections of the bulkhead. Since you say they should be copper clad I think I am going to try adding the copper to them that I put on the hull. Should make for an interesting look. Will let you know.
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Worked on a few different things over the last few days. Got the ship’s bell and the chimney like thing put in with Daniel’s enhancements. Accidentally destroyed the railing around the steps that down from the Quarter deck to the Upper deck 😩 so I had to fabricate a new one. Got a number of the pieces in that go along the inside edge of the hull that have pins for future rigging and the cannon ball racks. And started working on making the fore channels wider as Daniel recommends.
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Thanks Daniel. I appreciate it. I was actually looking at pages 13 and 16. In both of those, especially 16, it looked as if you added evergreen to all of the channels. That may be just to get uniformity in vertical thickness
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Daniel I am reading over the instructions for your plate #3. You have the section where you advise to widen the fore channels to the same width of the main channels so the shrouds don’t collide with the hammock cranes. The process you show to do this is to add 3 pieces of 1x1mm evergreen to the front edge and then cover the top and bottom with a thin evergreen sheet. I have a couple questions if you have an opportunity to respond. Would it it be easier to just add the evergreen pieces to the back side of the channel where it will be attached to the hull so I would not need tomake new holes for the irons? Or did you try this and found it not to be satisfactory? It looks in the plate 3 pictures that you added evergreen to all the channels, not just the fore channels. Is this correct? If so, how much wider did you make the main and mizzen channels, or did you make all 6 channels the same width? Last question. You show adding a sheet of thin evergreen to the top and bottom of each channel. What thickness of evergreen sheet did you use for this. It appears to be pretty thin.
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Wow Kevin she does seem a little less impressive with main mask removed. I still prefer the yellow ochre color and went with that on mine. I am going to be very interested in watching your build with your 3D parts and Daniel’s etched pieces it will be incredible! i recently started using my iPad instead of my iPhone to read and post. I have noticed there is more profile information shown on the iPad I had not seen on my phone. I noticed that you have the Revell Cutty Sark in your stash. I built it a while back and you can find my log on here when you get to it. Very enjoyable and lends itself well to bashing. A few post back you asked what was bringing me to Scotland and I failed to answer. We cancelled now because of Covid but we were going to St Andrews to watch the Dunhill Pro Am golf tournament.
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Glad you got to see her even minus major rigging. A little jealous maybe. 😊
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Thanks Bosco. Thanks Kevin. It looks like I am close on the hatches. Maybe could have been a little higher. My doors are definitely not high enough. Did not know there were stairs on the inside. Thought it was just a step over door sill. Oh well only you guys will know there are off a little. I will anxiously wait to see more of your photos and hear about your tour. Got Daniel’s binnacle constructed and installed on the Quarter deck along with the ship’s wheel and Daniel’s stanchion faceing.
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After the fact I think the doors and hatch look a little too thick but I am going to live with it!
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I had not thought of that! Thanks my friend. I will use that route in the future for reference.
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In fact Ian I started into Daniel’s build looking for anything he may have done to his. Like a number of build logs, his is pretty long. After rapid scrolling through a number of pages looking for pics of his bulkhead I gave up. I have no idea how such a thing could be manufactured, or how big it would be, but I have often thought a printed version of these build logs with a topic index would be a crazy valuable reference source.
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Thanks Ian. The door sills are a little raised already but can tell Daniel cut the doors out a little shorter by the hinge position. May tinker with them a little as well as the ports.
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Working a little today on the bulkhead. Decided to open the two doors as I have seen on others build logs. Decided to add some Evergreen to the back of the doors and inside edges of the door framed to give depth like the cannon hatches.
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“You’d best give very plain descriptions, I wouldn’tknow a jeer from a shear at this point.”😀 Keven this is so true for me as well. After getting the above post from our dear friend Ian I had to pull out my Longridge book and Google for definitions! Jeers, upper jeer blocks, timber hitched, main yard, garnets, clew line, and dangling clusters! I think I had to take medication one time for dangling clusters! 🤔 But I have to admit I am learning a lot of nautical stuff I never knew before. Big thank you Ian. Kevin I can’t think of any specific thing I wish for you to get pictures of. Just looking forward to seeing what ever pictures you take. Would love to fly over and join you in your tour. Ironically I was booked to fly to London Monday enroute to Scotland where my wife and I were going to spend a week at St Andrew’s. Unfortunately Covid concerns put a stop to that adventure 😟
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Ian I of course refer to your build as well as Daniel’s and Kevin’s and Foxy’s plus several others. Looking at your’s tonight I saw the picture of how you brought the lines up through the grate. I see that you cut out a small section. Once Kevin gets a chance to check out the real thing, maybe Monday, I may make a few modifications to my grate. I also noticed the eyebolts at the base. Is this the truss pendants you are talking about?
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Thanks Kevin.
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Thanks Ian. Onward I go! Truss pendants? Hummm, sounds interesting.
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Exactly what I did Ian. I drilled the holes in part(s) 89. Ran extra long threads through the holes as you instructed above and up through the grate. I have now installed (glued in) my Quarter Deck and dry fitted the mast to make sure the holes line up. On my other builds there has been a slight angle to the aft for the mast instead of perfectly vertical. The Victory appears to be the same. Hope that is correct! 🤞🙏 Also the bulkhead goes over the top of the deck at the bow. Is that correct? Bulkhead dry fitted and not yet painted. You may also notice I finished rigging the cannons on the Upper deck. Instead of trying to make perfect coils for the end of the ropes I simply coiled them up as if on a belaying pin.
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