tomganc

That's really nice and neat build. I like your attention to the details and gosh the ago of the kit says it all. Wonderful piece of modelling.

 

Regards

Tom

This is looking great. I'm not far behind with mine I hope

Considering this is 1/100 scale I'm well impressed with the level of details. Well done sir 👍

 

Regards

Tom

Hi

Such a great build. It will be my inspiration for some of the rigging details I couldn't get right from the books. It is always good to look at the example when it's done right.

You must be very proud of your build and you well should be. Fantastic craftmanship.

 

Regards

Tom

2 hours ago, Bob Fraser said:

Hi Tom.

Have you seen Gil Middletons build of the Vic?  And / or Longridges Nelsons Ships page 257/8 which goes into detail of how it is rigged and where the lines are run.  I can post some info pics from the book if you wish.

Cheers,

Bob

Thanks for the reply. I will have a look straight away

I looked it the books and I was hoping to see the block which was used to pull the yard up before securing it in its place with the sling.

 

I will have a look through the build you've sent me and hopefully find all the naswers.

 

Big thanks again.

 

Regards

Tom

Hello again, I have another update. 
 

I had decided to finish mizzen mast rigging so I had a better feel how she looks like and WOW I'm so happy. 

It took me a while to get all the necessary details but it all looks just great.

 

I've got a question to all fellow modellers as I'm bit stuck with mizzen yards rigging especially the crossjack yard. I can't find any decent pictures of models that have it done closest to the original. How many blocks does it have, I know it is attached to the mast with the sling but I'm not sure about main block used to lift it to its position.

 

In the meantime enjoy the pics

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 3/18/2022 at 7:25 PM, Nipper said:

Hello Tom - I've just come into your log and I have had a wonderful time reading through and looking at your ideas and methods.  What a fascinating build and I'm really impressed at what you're doing at such a small scale.

One question - I may have missed this elsewhere in your log, so apologies if I have:  what did you use for the hammock netting?   What you have there looks very good for 1/84.

Nipper

Hello, sorry I have missed your comment

Thank you for kind words and I'm glad you like my build. I have some pics to upload as I have done quite big progress since this post.

 

To reply to your question I had black netting supplied in the kit but it was black, and as you know the real Victory has white netting. I had a little reseatch and I went into Etsy to get this (https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/965753581/ivory-off-white-extra-soft-italian-tulle?click_key=49482354e64f9a5323afe1180f9292d156ef17b9%3A965753581&click_sum=faebdaba&ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=tulle&ref=sr_gallery-1-4&organic_search_click=1&frs=1&pop=1)

 

I had to stain it a little as white was just too white  

 

I hope it helped.

Regards

Tom

Hi again fellow builders!

 

Another update on my log, I managed to successfully finish few things.

1. Finished rigging of lower mizzen mast. Getting all the lower masts done was a long process but luckily I have it done. As you know I wasn't following the instructions but I used proper literature trying to mimic the original as much as I could.

 

Have a look

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The big achievement last night was finalising main stay with all its rigging. I had to order new heart blocks from Vanguard Models (https://vanguardmodels.co.uk/product/pearwood-open-and-closed-heart-blocks/)

They fitted perfectly, the main stay was using two largest blocks from their set. 

Rigging it was extremely tricky but I got the result I wanted and I'm so happy with the outcome

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Have a great modelling

 

Regards

Tom

 

 

 

 

 

Hiya, thanks for the input. I'm glad you find my build interesting and inspiring. I've gone quite far away from original instructions but I knew it at the beginning that as soon as I start that route it will be no looking back

In terms of rope colour I use black for standing rigging and I have Gutermann Skala 240 (colour 464) for running rigging. There isn't any other colours (Apart from the guns rigging which I did way earlier but too late to change them). I have seen some versions that standing rigging was done in dark brown and running much lighter than mine but I like the combination. I wasn't really looking to get anything different than black for standing rigging as this is the way the real thing is done. Colour of running rigging on real Victory though depends on the age of the ropes, condition, available stocks when replaced, etc. You will see many shades of these ropes which is quite normal.

 

Right now I'm getting to the stage of fitting bowsprit but I need to time it with attaching the stays. The order of install matters here as gammoning covers up the stays anchor point on the bowsprit. It will take me a while before it's done though. Right now I managed to do main stay's mouse and loop, serving it and worming too.

Have a look below.

 

 

Looking fab, well done with the shrouds. All the time to get them nicely served and prepared is definitely paying off now

 

Can't wait to see more...

 

Regards

Tom

She looks great, well done. You have bulk of the work done but once you start doing small things the effect will be amazing. I'm loving my build and each time I accomplish something it just looks spectacular. I can't get enough of it

 

Regards

Tom

Hello again

 

I had a productive night with stays making and I'd like to share it with you. I made main and preventer stays for fore and main mast. I twisted is as 3x (3x4) for 1.1mm2 and 3x (3x6) for 1.6mm2 of Gutermann Tera 180. The result is superb, nice and crisp. I also did sneaking on the smaller cable. It was a pain as this are really small ropes but my eyes managed. I even stayed away from magnifying glass which is quite good I think

 

Right now I need to make mouse and an a loop with splicing which will be a task on its own

 

Have a look...

 

Regards

Tom

 

Hi Everyone

Time for another update, I have finished lower fore mast. It took me a while but results exceeded my expectations. Love the details and I have already started main mast which should be ready by next week. This is fantastic adventure and experience and I can't get enough of it.

 

The pic quality isn't the best but I'm going to take some pro shots over the weekend and will definitely share it with you.

 

Happy build

 

Tom

 

 

 

 

 

That's a great result for sure. It took me quite few tries to get it the way I like but it's really rewarding. Once you fit that rope and compare it with others there is no way bac

Well done

 

Regards

Tom

That's nice looking start. I saw bit of the discussion regarding the planking. I can share my thoughts on this after planking my Victory many years ago. I'm nowhere near being an expert in this but during my build there was plenty of discussions on DeAgostini forum regarding the planking. It all boils down to two aspects - measure 5 times, cut once. Do it slowly and glue the plank in place once you are certain that it is the right way. When it comes to the tapering the planks I always used the method that I didn't go narrower than half width. When two planks taper down to half of their width you just adding single drop plank  to continue. Also when you taper them you start gradually so you don't get yourself in the situation that it gets really tight. 

I would share some of my pics if I didn't loose them unfortunately. What I can remember mine was single planked but I ended up using very little filler at the end. Right now it is all painted and copper plated but my next build will be definitely wood only too show it properly.

 

Happy build and we can't wait for more updates.

 

Regards

Tom

Looking great  She is slowly taking shape.

Apart from the normal issues during the build we modellers have to invent some jigs or other tools to make our life easier and getting job done at the same time. I love this aspect of our hobby. In many cases it is the "how you did it" that makes all the difference

 

Happy build
Tom

6 hours ago, LyleK1 said:

Interesting site but probably not practical for US buyers. It takes forever to get anything through customs and shipping is a joke right now!

Silly me... didn't realise you are US based. You are right the shipping will take forever with tons of extra costs. I'm sure you will find something similar on your side of the poond.

 

Regards

Tom

31 minutes ago, LyleK1 said:

Hey Tom,

 I separated them by size and type and used tumbler for each…. About 2-3 minutes each.

The real time came in redrilling all the holes… about 3 hours. The staining was simple and took about an hour.

They are very useable but I’m still considering purchasing even better ones.

The ones sold at Dry-Dock Model and parts are really nice! Hard to pass on them.

Hiya

 

That's great, I will need to give it a go on my next build. I've already started with rigging so no point in changing half way through. I stained them and used slightly adjusted sizes so it isn't that bad. 

I was considering buying CNC blocks for my Victory but it would be a fortune. It's hundreds of blocks there so I decided against it. I've spent enough on all the additions already

 

Have a look at this website, they sell CNC blocks various sizes https://www.hismodel.com/index.php

 

Regards

Tom

Fantastic job, I wish I was at this stage already

Your Victory looks amazing and well done with rigging. It's a pure pleasure to the eyes  

Hello again

 

I managed to move forward with the build. The fore mast shrouds are now rigged and I love the way it looks. As previously I made my own ropes which makes all the difference. I'm finishing off the catharpins and futtock shrouds now so I will be posting another update soon. 

 

I hope you like it

 

 

 

Hello everyone

 

Another progress here. I got to the point that I had to do hammocks as it will be easier to fit them now. After I rig the shrouds it will be really tight there.

As you can see I used different fabric than supplied as it was way too heave. I used old bed sheet and I will use the rest for the sails as guess what - I will be making my own

I've seen various ways of doing hammocks, the original instructions advised just to roll them up and put them in the netting. I thought about it and it seem'd really unpractical so I found this way of fitting them. I will need to modify the hammocks for the lower netting but I think it looks miles better. Of course it comes at the cost, doing it flat I would need about 100 of them. Doing it my way it will be around 300 as I used 70 already...

 

Have a look

 

 

 

 

 

In my humble opinion it looks miles better but I'm open to any suggestions.

 

Additionally I fitted boarding spikes, PE part ordered years ago somewhere. Looks nice and sharp. Rings are painted and spikes are blackened.

 

 

Additionally I played some with my own ropes to secure bonding with thimble for the preventer...

 

 

See you soon

 

Regards

Tom

On 1/22/2022 at 2:49 PM, Beef Wellington said:

Tom - your rigging is looking really good, very impressed that you've dived into making your own rope, must feel very satisfying.

Hi Jim

 

Yes it does, the longer it takes to make something the more satisfying it is...

 

Regards

Tom

Fantastic job on the rigging. I'm getting ready for my bowsprit but I need to make some heart blocks for the stay and preventer stay.

I like level of detail and for sure it will e inspiration for my build

 

Regards

Tom

That's nice plating job. I wonder if you shouldn't use the same method as with planks when you install drop planks when width goes less than half of the plank when you have to taper them. This will save you fitting these extra sharp and pointy fillings... I may be wrong just had a thought....

 

Regards

Tom

Wow such a great job! Nice, crisp and attention to the details is insane. You should be proud of yourself. Keep us posted

It looks great and in terms of rope sizes I may be of little help here. I managed to get a spreadsheet from here somewhere (can't remember exact location) but I was able to calculate the rope sizes depending on the model scale. It will give you some perspective especially for the standing rigging as there is quite few different sized ropes there