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Inspired by previous discussion on serving of ropes, especially with regard to an automated thread guide, I tried to implement them according to the examples from the Internet for my rope serving machine. Actually, a simple device that receives the propulsion through the juxtaposition of the thread, and thus moves on independently. Very important here is the adjustment of the tension for the thread, which is pulled by the rotating rope from the spool. A short video sequence shows this process very impressively: LINK A very special thanks to @Dziadeczek for your suggestion. The serving of the ropes is now, more or less, automatic and, above all, very even. Up soon …
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@ Michael mott Hi Michael, yes, the carriage with the spool has to be moved by hand. But that works pretty well. Nevertheless, I still try to optimize. I already admired your machine. This is a very nice device. @wefalck Hi Eberhard, your considerations for a rope serving machine are also very interesting. The control of the thread tension with the index finger is very promising. @Dziadeczek Hi Dziadeczek, that is of course a very interesting hint. I´ll try that, if the serving will be tight.
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First of all, many thanks for the greetings for the New Year and I hope that your interest in my report will continue in the New Year as well. Steve, thank you very much for your nice comment. Before I start with the shrouds, I still need a device for serving ropes. First of all, I drew a plan to get the material and parts. The first attempts with the rope serving machine were very successful. In order to be able to control the tension on the thread better, I have to think of a supplement for the device.
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I wish you all a happy new year!
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Hello Doris, it is phenomenal how you manage all this and, above all, in a quality that is admirable. I wish you and your family a happy new year.
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Hello Siggi, a nice model! I have not decided yet what kind of material I will use. Here's a first try for the shrouds. In this case, I used a linen rope. I'll do more experiments.
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@vossiewulf Sorry, I made a translation error. I wanted to say that the rigging of silk will survive me. I will correct the mistake in my post.
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Hello, as mentioned earlier, polyester is not an option for the ropes of my French corvette. That's why I kept coming up with information about the durability of silk on the internet, partly from scientific papers by conservators of museums. Ultimately, I can conclude for me that no specific time can be made to the durability of silk, it depends on many factors (environment, location, light conditions, processing, etc.). In any case, the silk rigging will outlive my existence for a long time. The difference between ropes made of linen and silk ropes is clearly visible in the next two pictures. The ropes made of silk therefore look smoother and cleaner. The rope made of linen is a little rough. If I make the ropes of silk, I can choose between 180 colors, for example at Gütermann. The right brown for the standing good will already be there.
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I wish you all a happy Christmas
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In the meantime my attempts continued on the ropewalk. The following pictures show the last results. For these ropes, which have different diameters of 0.8 mm to 1.5 mm, I used linen yarn from Bockens NeL 60/2 or 120/2. I am so satisfied with the result. It is important to improve one or the other, but this will come with the further exercise and the associated experience. Ultimately, I'm still working on the color and the conservation of the ropes and the final decision, which material should be used for the cordage of my corvette. After the ropes made of linen yarn did not look too bad in the meantime, I tend to be more interested in this material at the moment.
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@maturin This is an extremely interesting contribution about rigging of contemporary ship models. Can you tell me something about the use of silk to make ropes and how long does it last? Are there historical examples of silk rigging and how old are they? What is your recommendation for using silk for ropes?
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HMS VICTORY 1765 by albert - 1/48
archjofo replied to albert's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1751 - 1800
Hello Albert, a phenomenal beginning for a certainly unique model. Accompanying your work is a lesson for me. I wish you a Merry Christmas. -
That would be helpful if the museum expert could also make a statement for the conservation of silk.
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Hello Chuck, I am glad that you also gave me important information about rope making. Thank you very much. The ropes really look great. Nevertheless, I do not want to use synthetic material on my model. This is a fundamental attitude for me. The disadvantages of natural material, therefore, I accept. I think silk is very close to the polyester for rope making. I'm still trying to find out for how long silk will last. It would be nice if someone here has a lot of experience in using silk for rope making.
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Hello Greg, excuse me, that you receive an answer from me today. Your contribution to the use of real silk for rope is extremely interesting and helpful. Thank you very much for that. With your hints and suggestions I will try to get more information to decide if silk is suitable for me.
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Hello Doris, It is always a great pleasure to see your progress on the model. Likewise, I was pleased to see your fantastic models again. I know them very well from different forums. Your wonderful way to build models is unique in the world. I´m on the interior of the cabin very excited.
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Hello Carl, EJ and Thomas, Thank you for your appreciation for my work and everyone else for the interest and the LIKES. Apart from the conservation and coloring of the ropes, I also deal with different yarn materials. In the meantime, I have made experiments with real silk for rope making as an alternative to cotton and linen. Silk has ideal properties for rope making. The first results are excellent. But as I have read many times, silk should not be very resistant to environmental influences. Therefore, various museums only have model ships with rigging made of linen, … at least I have read this somewhere. Does anyone have any experience with a rigging made of silk? Or, does anyone know anything about this topic? I would be very grateful for that.
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Hello, thanks for the nice comments and also for the LIKES. At the moment I'm still practicing rope making. In the meantime, I have also made further attempts to dye the ropes. It is still not completely satisfactory in terms of color. In a French blog I read that wax should not find use. Wax simply picks up dust. There is still a lack of clarity regarding the conservation of the ropes. For suggestions and hints I am very grateful. Somewhere I have read that the angle between the lengthwise direction of the rope and the strands should be about 35 °. I will make the shrouds soon, so I hope.
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Hi Alex, you have again built a fantastic model ship. That's admirable! Can I read a report about building this model somewhere?
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Hello druxey, Albert, Thomas and Michael, it's nice that you like the ropes. Thank you! Today I want to show you the first attempts to preserve the ropes. The ropes were dyed with stain powder (LINK) and after drying, impregnated with linseed oil or floor oil (darker ropes). The upper rope is only colored, not yet treated with oil and the lowest rope of unbleached linen yarn ist impregnated with varnish oil.
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