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Beautifully done Bob.

raw cabin is looking fantastic Bob,
you must be paying attractive wages to your shipyard workers....
 
good progress and tidy work 
 
Nils

Lawrence, computers are a pain and sometimes I hate them but then I remember no matter how slow they are we wouldn’t have MSW to keep in touch and have that comradery I need to keep going with boat modeling.
 
Julie, I love the way you think, It’s like me.
 
Welcome aboard, Gerhard, I’ll try to keep you entertained.
 
Now here is where I am now.  The saw blade came yesterday so I need to mount that and cut wood for the other boat.  For this one I’m moving right along.  I built the walls for the saloon.  They’re not finished yet but placing them in the hull helps clarify the finished boat. 
 
Bob
 

 

 

Hi Bob
 
Just fell over your little "sisters", nice and elegant boats! I`ll keep myself in.............
 
Regards
Gerhard

You'd laugh if you knew how many times I've thought the same thing.

Some more progress, at last I can see the shape of the boat but somehow I feel something is wrong.
 
I finished the stem, the deadwood has been chiseled and sanded to shape and the rabbet completed. I must say it does not look awful! Of course, it needs a massive amount of fairing as after the paint goes on all imperfections will show.
 

 

 
I also epoxied the sternpost to the wood keel. I checked it a hundred times to make sure things were reasonably aligned and I think it went in ok. There is some more sanding needed and the transom bevels to be completed but it is almost there.
 

 
When the transom knee goes on, it will definitely count as a milestone. The whole thing is so big, my old iPhone cannot cope.
 

 
Despite the frame No 5 looking a bit off, test fitting a couple of battens seemed ok. However, when I tried to define the sheer, I was surprised to see that it was much less curved than I intended. Also, on some frames it was off by 2-3 mm. Maybe it is a trick of the eye, we ll see.
 

 

 

 

  I am not sure how to proceed from now on. I intended to fix battens with screws, then put the ribs in place securing them to the battens and then plank progressively removing battens. This is not going to work though.   I think I should at this point define the shape of the planks. I will use 2 mm greyboard, maybe it will work ok. I have never done any planking and it looks a rather big job. I tried to roughly divide the hull in three sections but it did the whole job even more intimidating. I must stop being lazy and read a few tutorials more carefully, these certainly are uncharted waters for me.    

I got some big plans for the future so it had to be big. For now it is very handy because there are three models to build on.
 
 
Hello Marcus. I bought that model in a secondhand shop for the price of a couple of beers. It's called a Bomschuit and it is scratchbuild (not by me ) but it's not very acurate, more a decorational model. I think the scale is around 1/20. If you are interested there is a very good book about these ships written by E.W. Petrejus, 1954. I have a copy but it is in Dutch. Maybe there is an english translation somewhere.
 
Kind regards, Kees

Kees,
 
Marcus should be able to read Dutch, something in his genes Thanks for mentioning the book. I'll have a look around too, interesting
 
Cheers

That would be great. I like the book very mutch because there are a lot of details about the ships. I believe the builders didn't work with plans, just by memory and a craftmens eye. In the book are some withnesreports from a man who observed the building of "bomschuiten" for a while.
 
Some time ago a group started crowdfunding to build a replica of a "Bomschuit" because they had found the original keel and some other parts under a dyke. I believe it is the KW76. Ithe replica is being build in Spakenburg.
 
The keel and parts were displayed last summer in front of the Andreas church in Katwijk. This beautiful church is found on many photo's with Bomschuiten on the beach of Katwijk. The church was used for many years as a wearhouse and saltstorage for the fishingcompanies in Katwijk. (the salt still causes a lot of problems and is very expensive to remove) We (protestant church) raise money all year trough to pay for the restauration ans cleaning of the salt.

This one, for instance
You see the typical design of the bomschuit: it is like a box...
They were designed to get ashore at high tide, so that they could be unloaded and serviced at low tide.
This because many of the fishing villages at the northsea did not have a harbour (completely impossible to dug a harbour in the flat sandy beaches.
 
Jan

Kees,
Thanks. It is the mast in the back that got me confused. I do have several books in pdf form on flat and round boats.
 
I know the name Petrejus and I think I can find something from him on Google.
Another book I have 'Vlaamse Visserij en Vissersvaartuigen' book 2, by Gaston Desnerck, 1976, bought it a long time ago in Amsterdam at the book store 'de Slechte'. I paid 30 guilders for it and looked it up recently and it is now 330.00 Euros. I am missing Book 1., but I am not going to pay 330.00 Euros for that one.
 
While I am on the subject there is a freebee floating around from before 1895-1905 called Ship Building from its beginnings by Emile van Konijnenburg, It is in 3 parts and in English. Nice plans, good descriptions and many boats and last but not least several German books on these types of boats. The Germans have written much on this subject.
 
For the none Dutch people here; The Dutch had numerous types of flat and round bottom boats. Every town that has a wharf has a many types of these boats. For pleasure, for freight, passengers, etc.
 
Several years ago I started writing an article on this for the Nautical Journal. It got huge as I was describing every boat possible with no end in sight. So I put it away. I can split it up in sections.
 
Sorry for hijacking the thread......................... back to you.... Kees.
 
Marcus

Yes thats because the boats were pulled high on the beach in fall and winter. The boat with all the gear, sails and flags on it is very strange. I think it was on display or something maybe for some important people to show. Normaly they were like the boats with the mast fold back.

No problem at all. Some hijacks are fun. Thank you

Hi Marcus,
 
Some ofthese ships had a second (small) mast set up, like the haringbuis.
Mainly to help them keeping position while at work. Notvery common on these ships, though....
 
Jan

many thanks to Michael - Keith - Johann - Albert - Jeff - John - Carl - Tom,
for all your compliments and comments...
 
and also to all the "likes" for clicking in...
 
Michael,
still so much to do, when I think ahead of all the filigrane structures along with the command bridge and the related decks, stairways, platforms, boats and railings
 
 
Keith,
for level of detail I stop when the tiny parts are getting of too thin stucture, for example the railing in scale 1:144 is about bottom limit... and very sensitive to destortion at every touch
 
Johann,
thanks fpor your nice comment
 
Albert,
thanks very much, I`m trying to implement some pf the typical, characteristic details of this ship, such like with the plating and the props, and decore
 
Jeff,
Thanks for your nice comment
 
John,
yes, I thought it would be interesting to present both versions
 
Carl,
I saw this question arising since I posted that update, ..... but they are are lucky to have Sven, the donkey-man, and his assistant amoungst the deck crew, he manages to play his steam winches and load beams like others play piano. It takes him 5 min. for carefully opening / closing the companionway tops, without crushing his fingers (closing only if bad weather is expected)
 
Tom,
thanks for your nice compliment....
still too early to plan the next project, there is still so much to do with this one....
 
Nils

Wonderful job Nils!  I hadn't checked in on your build log in quite a while.  It's wonderful to see how far your model has come.  How much more is left before you're finished?   It won't be too long before we are asking you what your next project will be.
 
Tom

Nils,
 
Very fitting. Just one question though: Looking at your figurants the tops look rather heavy, how would those be opened?

One closed and one open - I like that.
 
John

Nice Touch!

Bravo Nils very nice detail.

Hello Nils,
excellent detail work.

Nils
 
At what level of detail do you personally stop? I ask because I find it very difficult to decide and was wondering how others deal with the dilemma. Thanks for all the photos and keep them coming - much to admire and learn here.

Looks great Nils, I am definitely gaining a new respect for these ships that you build and the level of detail that you add.
 
Yes and he might be done before I have finished fixing a few divets on the Albertic.
 
Michael

Update...
 
companionways from boatsdeck down to promenade deck. Here the port side is weather locked, whilst the stb side gives way to the stair leading down
 
Nils
 

 
 

 
due to the design (flap back top) it is not necessary to have full standing hight, and also as the stair immediatey leads downwards. Here the "hinges" on the lid are not mounted yet
 
 

 
 

 
 

you warp the wood that-a-way!