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Stuntflyer reacted to Chuck in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Stuntflyer (Mike) - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF
You can leave them bright but other than that...bulwark red is the only choice for me...as shown on the contemporary model.
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Stuntflyer got a reaction from Hubac's Historian in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Stuntflyer (Mike) - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF
Lower counter
I gave a lot of thought towards doing the lower counter in AYC. Unfortunately, I didn't have any sheets on the shelf. I know it all seems pretty straight forward, just a simple planking job. That wasn't the case at least for me. It would have been easier to do this in AYC being that the wood is much more flexible than boxwood when doing this kind of work.
After the planks were in I faired a nice rounding into the wood with some miniature scrapers. https://www.amazon.com/Lynx-Mini-Scraper-Set-4pc/dp/B00ICISC2U There were a few areas where the cedar quarter panel was slightly over faired (rounded off) on the lower edge which I compensated for when I faired the outer edge of the lower counter.
Mike
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Stuntflyer reacted to Chuck in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Chuck - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF - prototype build
I wish I had a foolproof method. I faced the same issues. Multiple scrap pieces and do-overs. The only advice I can give is to not settle and make a new deck beam when one doesnt fit. The plans are pretty accurate but everyone will fair the inside of the hull differently so they are always going to be custom fit.
Honestly I just eye-balled the length making them slightly longer to start and then slowly sanded the ends until they fit. Each pass I made slight adjustments to the angles on each end. If I over did it…then I tossed it and started again. Thats what ship modeling is all about…at least for me.
You guys didnt see my many do-overs, LOL.
If there is any silver lining…I will be completely planking these lower platforms. So the beams wont be seen anyway.
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Stuntflyer got a reaction from AnobiumPunctatum in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Stuntflyer (Mike) - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF
Lower counter
I gave a lot of thought towards doing the lower counter in AYC. Unfortunately, I didn't have any sheets on the shelf. I know it all seems pretty straight forward, just a simple planking job. That wasn't the case at least for me. It would have been easier to do this in AYC being that the wood is much more flexible than boxwood when doing this kind of work.
After the planks were in I faired a nice rounding into the wood with some miniature scrapers. https://www.amazon.com/Lynx-Mini-Scraper-Set-4pc/dp/B00ICISC2U There were a few areas where the cedar quarter panel was slightly over faired (rounded off) on the lower edge which I compensated for when I faired the outer edge of the lower counter.
Mike
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Stuntflyer got a reaction from FrankWouts in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Chuck - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF - prototype build
Great idea, Chuck! as long as the shear is good, then all should work out nicely. I’m gonna take a look at what Greg did on his build. It should be an interesting comparison.
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Stuntflyer got a reaction from FrankWouts in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Stuntflyer (Mike) - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF
Thanks guys! Your kind words are very much appreciated, as always. I'm looking forward to getting those first planks on the ship. Something different!
Chuck, thanks for the heads up. I added the first counter planks and there was no issue getting the lower edge of counter flush with the square tuck
Mike
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Stuntflyer got a reaction from Trussben in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Stuntflyer (Mike) - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF
Lower counter
I gave a lot of thought towards doing the lower counter in AYC. Unfortunately, I didn't have any sheets on the shelf. I know it all seems pretty straight forward, just a simple planking job. That wasn't the case at least for me. It would have been easier to do this in AYC being that the wood is much more flexible than boxwood when doing this kind of work.
After the planks were in I faired a nice rounding into the wood with some miniature scrapers. https://www.amazon.com/Lynx-Mini-Scraper-Set-4pc/dp/B00ICISC2U There were a few areas where the cedar quarter panel was slightly over faired (rounded off) on the lower edge which I compensated for when I faired the outer edge of the lower counter.
Mike
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Stuntflyer got a reaction from FrankWouts in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Stuntflyer (Mike) - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF
Lower counter
I gave a lot of thought towards doing the lower counter in AYC. Unfortunately, I didn't have any sheets on the shelf. I know it all seems pretty straight forward, just a simple planking job. That wasn't the case at least for me. It would have been easier to do this in AYC being that the wood is much more flexible than boxwood when doing this kind of work.
After the planks were in I faired a nice rounding into the wood with some miniature scrapers. https://www.amazon.com/Lynx-Mini-Scraper-Set-4pc/dp/B00ICISC2U There were a few areas where the cedar quarter panel was slightly over faired (rounded off) on the lower edge which I compensated for when I faired the outer edge of the lower counter.
Mike
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Stuntflyer got a reaction from Alexander Bulimov in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Stuntflyer (Mike) - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF
Lower counter
I gave a lot of thought towards doing the lower counter in AYC. Unfortunately, I didn't have any sheets on the shelf. I know it all seems pretty straight forward, just a simple planking job. That wasn't the case at least for me. It would have been easier to do this in AYC being that the wood is much more flexible than boxwood when doing this kind of work.
After the planks were in I faired a nice rounding into the wood with some miniature scrapers. https://www.amazon.com/Lynx-Mini-Scraper-Set-4pc/dp/B00ICISC2U There were a few areas where the cedar quarter panel was slightly over faired (rounded off) on the lower edge which I compensated for when I faired the outer edge of the lower counter.
Mike
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Stuntflyer got a reaction from GioMun in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Stuntflyer (Mike) - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF
Square tuck
I wanted to give this a try at least once before making use of the laser cut versions. #1. I copied the angle from the laser cut piece onto the joined strips. #2. The frame was made and set parallel with the angled line. #3. The curves were done with the spindle sander and disc sander along with a bit of hand work. #4. Almost ready to place on the ship. I Still needed to taper the frame.
The most difficult part was trying to get symmetry between the two sides. It's not perfect, but certainly close enough. I was kicking myself when I noticed that the top of the port side square tuck is 1/64" lower at the stern post compared to the other one. Of course this won't be seen once the moulding is on. I left the outer area of the frames without any tapering. There is a tiny filler plank that goes between the tuck and the first strake. I will wait until that's on the ship, so I can sand that area all at the same time.
Anyway only one shot at it for this result.
Mike
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Stuntflyer got a reaction from fake johnbull in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Stuntflyer (Mike) - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF
Lower counter
I gave a lot of thought towards doing the lower counter in AYC. Unfortunately, I didn't have any sheets on the shelf. I know it all seems pretty straight forward, just a simple planking job. That wasn't the case at least for me. It would have been easier to do this in AYC being that the wood is much more flexible than boxwood when doing this kind of work.
After the planks were in I faired a nice rounding into the wood with some miniature scrapers. https://www.amazon.com/Lynx-Mini-Scraper-Set-4pc/dp/B00ICISC2U There were a few areas where the cedar quarter panel was slightly over faired (rounded off) on the lower edge which I compensated for when I faired the outer edge of the lower counter.
Mike
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Stuntflyer got a reaction from mtaylor in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Stuntflyer (Mike) - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF
Lower counter
I gave a lot of thought towards doing the lower counter in AYC. Unfortunately, I didn't have any sheets on the shelf. I know it all seems pretty straight forward, just a simple planking job. That wasn't the case at least for me. It would have been easier to do this in AYC being that the wood is much more flexible than boxwood when doing this kind of work.
After the planks were in I faired a nice rounding into the wood with some miniature scrapers. https://www.amazon.com/Lynx-Mini-Scraper-Set-4pc/dp/B00ICISC2U There were a few areas where the cedar quarter panel was slightly over faired (rounded off) on the lower edge which I compensated for when I faired the outer edge of the lower counter.
Mike
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Stuntflyer reacted to Chuck in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Stuntflyer (Mike) - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF
Perfect…You are catching up to me quickly.
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Stuntflyer got a reaction from Rustyj in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Stuntflyer (Mike) - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF
Lower counter
I gave a lot of thought towards doing the lower counter in AYC. Unfortunately, I didn't have any sheets on the shelf. I know it all seems pretty straight forward, just a simple planking job. That wasn't the case at least for me. It would have been easier to do this in AYC being that the wood is much more flexible than boxwood when doing this kind of work.
After the planks were in I faired a nice rounding into the wood with some miniature scrapers. https://www.amazon.com/Lynx-Mini-Scraper-Set-4pc/dp/B00ICISC2U There were a few areas where the cedar quarter panel was slightly over faired (rounded off) on the lower edge which I compensated for when I faired the outer edge of the lower counter.
Mike
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Stuntflyer got a reaction from Ryland Craze in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Chuck - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF - prototype build
Great idea, Chuck! as long as the shear is good, then all should work out nicely. I’m gonna take a look at what Greg did on his build. It should be an interesting comparison.
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Stuntflyer got a reaction from Canute in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
Absolutely, Erik. You should be👍
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Stuntflyer got a reaction from KenW in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Stuntflyer (Mike) - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF
Lower counter
I gave a lot of thought towards doing the lower counter in AYC. Unfortunately, I didn't have any sheets on the shelf. I know it all seems pretty straight forward, just a simple planking job. That wasn't the case at least for me. It would have been easier to do this in AYC being that the wood is much more flexible than boxwood when doing this kind of work.
After the planks were in I faired a nice rounding into the wood with some miniature scrapers. https://www.amazon.com/Lynx-Mini-Scraper-Set-4pc/dp/B00ICISC2U There were a few areas where the cedar quarter panel was slightly over faired (rounded off) on the lower edge which I compensated for when I faired the outer edge of the lower counter.
Mike
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Stuntflyer got a reaction from rcweir in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Stuntflyer (Mike) - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF
Lower counter
I gave a lot of thought towards doing the lower counter in AYC. Unfortunately, I didn't have any sheets on the shelf. I know it all seems pretty straight forward, just a simple planking job. That wasn't the case at least for me. It would have been easier to do this in AYC being that the wood is much more flexible than boxwood when doing this kind of work.
After the planks were in I faired a nice rounding into the wood with some miniature scrapers. https://www.amazon.com/Lynx-Mini-Scraper-Set-4pc/dp/B00ICISC2U There were a few areas where the cedar quarter panel was slightly over faired (rounded off) on the lower edge which I compensated for when I faired the outer edge of the lower counter.
Mike
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Stuntflyer got a reaction from Some Idea in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Stuntflyer (Mike) - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF
Lower counter
I gave a lot of thought towards doing the lower counter in AYC. Unfortunately, I didn't have any sheets on the shelf. I know it all seems pretty straight forward, just a simple planking job. That wasn't the case at least for me. It would have been easier to do this in AYC being that the wood is much more flexible than boxwood when doing this kind of work.
After the planks were in I faired a nice rounding into the wood with some miniature scrapers. https://www.amazon.com/Lynx-Mini-Scraper-Set-4pc/dp/B00ICISC2U There were a few areas where the cedar quarter panel was slightly over faired (rounded off) on the lower edge which I compensated for when I faired the outer edge of the lower counter.
Mike
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Stuntflyer got a reaction from Some Idea in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Chuck - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF - prototype build
Great idea, Chuck! as long as the shear is good, then all should work out nicely. I’m gonna take a look at what Greg did on his build. It should be an interesting comparison.
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Stuntflyer got a reaction from davyboy in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Stuntflyer (Mike) - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF
Lower counter
I gave a lot of thought towards doing the lower counter in AYC. Unfortunately, I didn't have any sheets on the shelf. I know it all seems pretty straight forward, just a simple planking job. That wasn't the case at least for me. It would have been easier to do this in AYC being that the wood is much more flexible than boxwood when doing this kind of work.
After the planks were in I faired a nice rounding into the wood with some miniature scrapers. https://www.amazon.com/Lynx-Mini-Scraper-Set-4pc/dp/B00ICISC2U There were a few areas where the cedar quarter panel was slightly over faired (rounded off) on the lower edge which I compensated for when I faired the outer edge of the lower counter.
Mike
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Stuntflyer got a reaction from Tossedman in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Chuck - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF - prototype build
Great idea, Chuck! as long as the shear is good, then all should work out nicely. I’m gonna take a look at what Greg did on his build. It should be an interesting comparison.
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Stuntflyer got a reaction from Nirvana in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Chuck - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF - prototype build
Great idea, Chuck! as long as the shear is good, then all should work out nicely. I’m gonna take a look at what Greg did on his build. It should be an interesting comparison.
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Stuntflyer got a reaction from glbarlow in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Chuck - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF - prototype build
Great idea, Chuck! as long as the shear is good, then all should work out nicely. I’m gonna take a look at what Greg did on his build. It should be an interesting comparison.
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Stuntflyer reacted to Chuck in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Chuck - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF - prototype build
Before I can begin placing the beams for the lower platforms, I must make a height gauge first. There are many ways to do this and a system will be very important to have moving forward on this project. Greg describes one method in his books on Speedwell. I have decided to go another way. I prefer to make a depth gauge of sorts.
Here is a photo...you folks can of course select any method you prefer. I am fond of this one and such a gauge can be made with readily available scrap strips...Note how the pointer is a separate it to be slipped onto the lower shaft. It is basically a very large T-square. I used 3/32" thick strips but they are fairly wide so they wont bend or flex. The center of the "T" is thinner at about 1/16" thick.
The pointer is meant to be slid onto the center shaft of the "T". Everything is squared up and at perfect right angles. Nice and neat.
Basically take the measurements from the plans to find the depth of any beams etc. Like the forward platform beams. The underside of the "T" is set flush with the sheer on the plan. Then I mark the top of the platform beam on the center shaft...without the pointer on it. Just a pencil tick mark.
Then the pionter is added to the shaft and lined up with the tick mark. The pointer must fit nice and snug so it doesnt shift around. Its a very tight fit on purpose. Then the depth gauge can be brought to the model as shown. Repeat on both sides for each beam end. I am marking the height for the tops of the beams. Find where that beam should be and mark its height on the model. Repeat this process for every lower platform beam end. Then connect the marks to find the proper height for the platform. Basically repeat this on both sides. Hope that makes sense.
I am basically trusting that my sheer on the model is correct and even on both sides. I am confident...
But if your sheer is off you have bigger problems anyway. No matter what method you choose there will be issues. This is just one method that can be used. I did this for all the lower platform beams which are 3/16" x 3/16" cedar. That is except for the most forward platform which has 1/4" x 3/16 beams just under the stove. Check you plans carefully. The beams have no roundup and are just cut from strip stock. They are carefully measured and shaped to fit snug. Placement is important here.
In fact the placement of the first 1/4" x 3/16 beam of the forward-most platform is very important. It is exactly 5/16" away from the beam aft of it on the lowest platform. So a small jig was laser cut to help find its location. This will be provided. It sits on the lower platform beams which went in first. It has laser etched marks to help you place that first beam in position correctly at the right height and the right distance from the lower platform beam.
Once all seven of the forward platform beams were in place I tested my placement with the a cutout of the plans. Everything is level and the plans fits pretty darned good.
Next up is to add the a bulkhead and some additional framing on these platforms before I plank them.
Hope this makes sense...
Chuck