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i would sooner have more frames as a guide line to getting the shape right
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morning, everyone day 4 finished the hull planking, absolutely nothing special, but having learnt to fair the frames better the hull is solid, bow filler blocks setting overnight, i will def be putting tiles on her, so ordered some 4mm copper tape,
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Welcome to the best forum, everyone here knows me as the one that never finishes anything
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PBY-3 Catalina by PvG Aussie - FINISHED - Wolfpack - 1/72
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1/72 - Consolidated PBY-3/4 & 5 Catalina by Wolfpack Design (plastic Academy) - PBY-3 & 5 released - new PBY-4 boxing in February 2024 - The Rumourmonger - Britmodeller.com -
thank you for comments and likes day 3 all the lower gun ports now have backing plates port side first planked another quirk on this kit the transom and bow are made up on completion of first planking
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Kit review Belle Poule - Occre - 1/90 - review by kevin
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i have amended the comments in my conclusion, to state no copper tape or tiles is included in the kit, and if i ever get the chance to discuss with Occre i will bring some of these "why's " up -
Morning @Patrick Haw nice to hear from you, in 2021 i moved out of the garage into the conservatory, and made a display area in the empty space, there are now far more models in there, but thats where they are nowadays
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Morning OC lol some will say, oh another kit he wont finish
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just checking that i had not messed up these are the templets as they come off the billet. the middle sections are removed, fit the template, a blank is then fitted at the back, then the removed section is put back in to allow fitting of the dummy barrel, hope that makes sense, but seam long winded way of doing things
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day 2 full deck fitted and the camber dried ok, but today i realised i had gone to far fwd and aft, and to leave it would have thrown all the templates out, so a couple of frames both ends have gone back to the deck sitting directly on to the frames deck cut to remove section, remove camber and replace deck sitting flat why oh why, what a pain instructions say lay the deck, then fit upper gun port pattern before planking, well i think thats a pants idea, as it will get knocked about, so i marked where it fits and fitted the lower template, the rear sect was fine, but front end requires soaking and the grain of the wood is vertical so breaks so very easily this the better looking side im not even going to ask why all the forward gun port are in front of the frames planking tomorrow
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Thank you so very much for the link, and stand corrected on the name
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build log day 1 the two pieces of the centre line are sandwiched between two plates 17 frames test fitted, no adjustments were needed BUT there is no camber ummm test fitting, everything lines up, all bulkheads and decks are ply, the centreline is MDF three deck section, planked and test fitted all frames glued in and allowed to dry with top deck in place Camber i decided to raise the centre line by 1.6mm as i want to restrict any long term disadvantages this might cause, but i spread the revised height over 3 planks, 1.6 *15.5mm glued and pinned it perhaps could have been increased to 2mm, but is noticeable and im happy
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good evening everyone, Indy is on the build table but since finishing the tug last week i smashed my glasses, and the spares are too out of date to make any difference, i was doing the bowlines, and was struggling doing them after a couple of hours, eye have now been re-tested and my goggles on the way, but for a few days im going to start the Occre Belle Poule, i did a kit review of her a few days ago For those interested the new boi Apollo is fine, and a new baby has been ordered, born on Friday 24th May this is going to be Odin Minimoo (Odin as in Greek god and i served 8 years on HMS Odin, Minimoo is in tribute to Dobbie who we lost about 8 weeks ago Belle Poule - Occre - 1/90 - review by kevin - REVIEWS: Model kits - Model Ship World™ Hercules by Kevin - FINISHED - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - - Kit build logs for subjects built from 1901 - Present Day - Model Ship World™ Apollo and the wife, love them to bits Odin Minimoo
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From wikki Belle-Poule was a Surveillante-class 60-gun first rank frigate of the French Navy. She achieved fame for bringing the remains of Napoleon from Saint Helena back to France, in what became known as the Retour des cendres. Construction and early career[edit] Although construction was started in 1828, Belle-Poule was launched only in 1834. She was one of the first ships to be built in a covered shipyard, which allowed the builders to delay construction while the political and financial circumstances were not favourable. Her design was inspired by USS Constitution.[1] She was commissioned in July 1835, and displayed very good sailing properties. On 1 August 1839, under command of the Prince of Joinville, third son of King Louis-Philippe, she left Cherbourg to join the Eastern fleet of Admiral Lalande. In October, she ran aground on the Taches Blanches, in the Dardanelles and was damaged. She was refloated and taken into Constantinople, Ottoman Empire for temporary repairs before sailing to Toulon for permanent repairs. Retour des cendres On 27 July 1840, she set sail with special equipment for Saint Helena to bring back the remains of Napoleon. She had been painted black for the occasion. On 30 September, she arrived back in Cherbourg, where, on 8 December, the Emperor's remains were transferred to the steamship Normandie. Normandie transported the remains to Le Havre and up the Seine to Rouen, for further transport to Paris. The transfer of the remains from Belle-Poule to Normandie in the road of Cherbourg was executed in much ceremony, and became a subject of choice for marine and romantic painters. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Repatriación_de_las_cenizas_de_Napoleón_a_bordo_de_la_Belle_Poule%2C_por_Eugène_Isabey.jpg/300px-Repatriación_de_las_cenizas_de_Napoleón_a_bordo_de_la_Belle_Poule%2C_por_Eugène_Isabey.jpg Canada and Morocco In 1841, Belle-Poule cruised along the Canadian coast, landing in Halifax, Nova Scotia and visited New York City, where the Prince of Joinville visited the President of the United States. Belle-Poule was back in Toulon on 14 July 1842. In 1844, Joinville, then vice-admiral, was sent to Morocco to support the action of General Thomas Robert Bugeaud in Algeria, with Suffren, Jemmapes, Triton, and the frigate Belle-Poule. Tanger came under attack on 6 August, and Mogador was taken on 15 August. Afterwards, Belle-Poule cruised the Indian Ocean, where a cyclone left her with serious damage. She was repaired in Sainte-Marie de Madagascar, and returned to Brest. Crimean War and late career She took part in the Crimean War, mostly as a transport; she stayed in the East until August 1856, and sailed back to Toulon on 1 September. In 1859, she was used to transport ammunition, and was decommissioned on 19 March 1861. She was still used to store gunpowder until 1888. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Belle-Poule-IMG_4865.jpg/300px-Belle-Poule-IMG_4865.jpg Model of Belle-Poule, on display at Toulon naval museum. History https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/01/Flag_of_France_%281814%E2%80%931830%29.svg/42px-Flag_of_France_%281814%E2%80%931830%29.svg.png https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Ensign_of_France.svg/42px-Ensign_of_France.svg.pngFrance Namesake Paule de Viguier, baronne de Fonterville Laid down 1828 Launched 26 March 1834 Commissioned July 1835 Decommissioned 19 March 1861 Fate Scrapped 1888 General characteristics Class and type Surveillante-class frigate Displacement 2500 tonnes Length 54 metres (177 ft) Beam 14.10 metres (46.3 ft) Draught 3.80 metres (12.5 ft) Propulsion sail Complement 301 Armament 60 guns 32 × 30-pounder long guns 4 × 80-pounder Paixhans guns 24 × 30-pounder carronades Armour Timber
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Kit review Belle Poule - Occre - 1/90 - review by kevin
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i will sort the camber out by placing two 1.6mm deep strips either side of the centre line, after the frames have dried, watch out for a build log -
Kit review Belle Poule - Occre - 1/90 - review by kevin
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Kit review Belle Poule - Occre - 1/90 - review by kevin
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Conclusion The kit is classed by Occre as high difficulty with a build time of 800 hours, personally i don't think she deserves that level of difficulty and i measure the time it takes to complete in months not hours, so once i start i would suggest about 9 months on the build table, based on 2 to 3 hours daily Shame to see no deck camber yet again, i will attempt to correct this single planked with a veneer covering, i would prefer double planking, and may address this, although the provided wood looks ok sails provided look good, the rigging thread, i will replace the 1/4 galleries, im unsure about, unless they are generic, they would have been better in wood, with PE overlays IMHO all in all i think for the price there is a lot of kit for the money, and will make a nice addition to anyone wanting a non British post Nelson sailing vessel, im looking forward to building her update 7 june 2024 a lack of copper tape or tiles, to allow the builder the choice of finish, this vessel would certainly have been protected, link to museum a display provided by @wefalckhttps://www.maritima-et-mechanika.org/maritime/models/bellepoule/bellepoule.html i would like to thank Occre for the donation of the kit for review and @James H -
Kit review Belle Poule - Occre - 1/90 - review by kevin
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Instructions nice to see we have a fully detailed instruction book off over 30 pages in A3 size, i notice a lot of of companies are cutting down on these to save the planet, but very limiting when you dont have easy access to the internet here are a few pages from the said book, there is also s step by step videos on YouTube a link to all videos (2) Barco Belle Poule - Paso a paso - OcCre - YouTube the next booklet is a full cutting list parts identification and more detailed instructions on achieving what the photos show in the book, as well as rigging plans -
Kit review Belle Poule - Occre - 1/90 - review by kevin
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Photo Etch 4 heavy gauge sheets, comprising, of chain plates gun port hinges, windows, doors and railings, Fittings again its pleasant to see some detail without a lot of clean up being required, there are a few seam lines, but in most cases hidden from view this is the figurehead, i think some homework is required to find out what it is meant to be 1/4 galleries, don't think i have worked with metal ones before, the detail is quite crisp, im sure some dry brushing will bring out the detail the anchors are nice a clean, but to me they look a little over scale a small selection of the ships teeth cannon balls lots of metal strips to help make up chain plates trays also contain all the rest of the required bits rigging thread and sails lots of thread is provided in various sizes and two colours natural and brown, this does not look so fluffy as my last build, but i personally will be replacing the brown with black a full set of sails comes as standard, i cannot tell you at this time if they are in scale to the build, but they look very well made indeed, i may use these to achieve my first ever rigged vessel with sheets set -
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The kit Scale: 1/90 Width: 385mm Height: 765mm Length: 1085mm Difficulty: Medium Number of pieces: +6,600 First impressions were wow, there is a lot of kit for the money, in what is quite a heavy box. like a lot of Occre kits the package is similar to others in the range, a simple folded base keeps everything in place with a generic coloured lid with a pasted photo of the build, having said that one of the plastic cases had been damaged, allowing some of the contents to be loose, but everything was accounted for, this was not caused in transit as noting was around it to do that sort of damage wood package the wood stock provided has been cut well with no splintering, for me the veneer is the best i have seen in a kit, although its a long time since i purchased a kit with it contained bulkheads are plywood, lime for first planking sapelli veneer for the outer hull sycamore decking and a variety for the rest it would be nice if some of the wood stock could be identified rather than bundled together The rest of the wood package is lasered stock and the lines are very clean with very little scorching on either side its nice to see the wooden boats enclosed rather than the metal ones However no deck camber has been built into the kit, i think this applies to all Occre vessels. including the new release HMS Victory i will try and raise the centre line when it comes to building this, i just need to work out what else would need to be changed like hatch coamings, skylights -
1:90 Belle Poule OcCre Catalogue # 15007 Available from OcCre for 449,99€ The "Belle Poule" was a 60-gun French Navy frigate. Frigates were versatile and fast warships designed for speed and manoeuvrability, performing roles in both combat and exploration. Frigates like the "Belle Poule", were known for their speed and manoeuvrability, making them ideal for a variety of tasks, including pursuing and attacking enemy vessels, as well as for exploration and patrol missions. Although its construction began in 1828, the Belle Poule was not launched until 1834. It was one of the first ships to be built in a covered shipyard, allowing builders to delay construction when political and financial circumstances were unfavourable. Its design was inspired by the USS Constitution frigate class. It was commissioned in July 1835 and displayed quite good sailing properties. What really made this ship "Belle Poule" famous was the repatriation of Napoleon's ashes aboard the Belle Poule from the island of Saint Helena to France. An event that will be remembered as it marked the end of the Napoleonic era and left a significant impact on the course of the history of France and Europe.
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