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Thanks Mike: Yes they are made from 3/32 wide 1/64 K&S brass strip (#815021 Flat bar). Thanks too for the 'likes'.
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I decided that I didn’t like the look of only two ‘iron cranes’ per side. It seems too flimsy. So I made 4 more so there will now be one crane on each swivel support. The result looks much better.
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Thanks Lou: I agree and plan on making the additional cranes this afternoon. The current setup just doesn't look right. At least to my eye. Thanks for the likes as well. Cheers.
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I made the “crane irons over the quarters for oars”; as mentioned in the article, “The Ships of John Paul Jones”, by William Gilkerson in the Fall 1978 issue of, “Sea History”. His source was “A British intelligence report” describing the Providence/Katy in 1775. So, I designed and made two “crane Irons”, for each side and I hope they look right. The iron pieces are attached to the fore and aft swivel posts on both sides. I wonder, however, if I should make more irons so that there will be four per side. What I have looks fine, but I wonder if that’s enough to hold the oars in heavy seas. Two more irons on the ‘middle’ swivel posts might make the oars more secure. I’ve got to think about it.
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Thanks Gary. I see in your "Downeast Salmon Wherry", that you are the oars expert. Your work is truly fantastic. Cheers.
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I made the oars for the sweeps and the ship’s boat. I’m planning on four a side for the sweeps, which is one sweep between each gun. These oars are very big and will require two crewmen to man them. There are four smaller oars for the boat. The big oars were made in two pieces; and the smaller ones from one piece. I’m not drilling the sweep holes yet because I want to make sure the oars will not interfere with the shrouds. I will make the iron cranes at the quarters next.
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Thanks Mike, Lou and Tom. I got the idea of the photos from Chuck's log of his Winchelsea model. Tom: I'm hoping to show my model at a live club meeting soon, and see your Liverpool live as well. Stay safe everyone. Cheers.
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Well, the hull isn’t really done at all. I decided that the binnacle was too big. So, I removed it and made a smaller one. I saved the lantern and hung it behind the stairs to the quarter deck. And I felt I wouldn’t be able to make a new one small enough. So I decided that the lantern was removed from the binnacle to refill it with oil. I also added two doors to reduce the light put off by the lantern and even left one door ajar. The launch party will have to wait. I also added supports for the swivels. You can almost see the lantern hanging behind those stairs. I still have to make oars and sweeps, as well as the “crane rails on the quarters” to store the oars.
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Great work Chuck! I really like that last photo. Cheers.
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Great Mike. It looks like you will probably be interested in Box 7. Just a guess though. Let me know how you make out.
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Lou: Well, if I do get to Mystic, I'll give it a try. Thanks.
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Mike: The Charles Wittholz plans are the plans for the replica. I got a copy from the guy that was in charge of the restoration after the original boat was blown over during a winter storm. Lou: Depending on the status of the virus, I'll be going to Mystic in October. I usually go a day early so I can spend some time at the seaport. That's the best I can do right now. Cheers.
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Hey Mike. A person at your Society, I believe it was Richard Ring, send me 6 photos of the brownell model that you have on display. It's a good model, but I wish I had the Davis plans it was based on. Anyway, I am grateful for the photos. Cheers.
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Thanks Mike. I can read the document, but not obtain a copy. Is there a way to purchase a copy? Cheers.
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Really enjoyed your presentation last night. Thanks a lot.
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WOW. Thanks a lot Mike. I'll certainly read this source. I'm fond of the Davis/Brownell models. If I knew about them I'd have relied on these models rather than the plans for the replica. If you're interested, our club has virtual meetings each month. We get 'guests' from all over the US and now Canada. Let me know if you want to attend a meeting so I can inform our president to let you into our Zoom setup. Cheers.
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The hull is done and I’m ready for the formal launch. The binnacle is put in place and tied down. I made the windlass ratchet stopper from a 3/32 square piece which was carved to look like a square ‘C’. Also, a 1/32 x 3/16 piece of basswood strip was shaped and sanded. A small hole was drilled through the square carved piece and then a hole was made in the base of the strip. I inserted a length of fishing wire so the stopper will move. Then I carefully measured the necessary height and glued the stopper onto the bow sprint bit. The result looks pretty good. I hope my description is clear; it's hard to see in the photo since it's all black.
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Thanks Lou. I don't think there is really any more research out there. I wasn't aware, but the model at the Rhode Island Historical Society was built by A.S. Brownell in 1926. It is based on planes by C.G. Davis and Brownell. If you accept personal messages I'll send the photos that the Society sent me. Cheers.
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Thanks Lou. I got it wrong in that the Brownell does NOT have the yellow rail or stripe. And the Davis does and is the model in the Mystic Seaport Museum. Sorry about all the trouble I'm causing. I absolutely am impressed by all the photos and the research you've done. I can't wait to get back to Mystic. Cheers.
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Lou: I'm a bit confused about the model photos/ The Davis and Brownell models are very similar. I think that the Brownell has a yellow stripe on the hull and the Davis does not. If that is true, I think some of your photos are labeled wrong. Can you please check and let me know which is which. Thanks.
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Thanks again Lou. I like the Bromnell model. And you should come east; perhaps for our Joint Clubs meeting (assuming it will take place). If you consider a trip, I'll give you updates on the final date. It may not happen until October. Any research/photos are welcome. John Rathbun is a true early American hero that very few people have ever heard of. Cheers.
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WOW Thanks Lou. Lots of great stuff here. There is a one day 'conference' here on the east coast called Joint Clubs held just outside Mystic, Ct. each year. We missed last year, but we are, hopefully, on for this August. I'll spend some time at the museum and check this out. I like the Charles Davis model because it's all black (above the water line). I'd really like to see more photos of it from other angles and some close-ups. Really impressive. Thanks again.
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