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Falls of Clyde 1878 by GAW - FINISHED - scale 1:96 - iron 40-frame hull center cross-section


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Fig-107 - Details of the construction of the loading port, all of which can only be seen on the inside of the hull.  It consists of a square frame of the angle brass, provided with rivet heads.  The two locking bars are filed up from rectangular brass, then drilled and tapped to take the four locking bolts.  The bolts should be anchored to the inside of the door, but for ease of assembly and construction, and it cannot be seen anyway, the frame, locking bars and bolts were assembled with silver solder. Then tinned with soft solder for attaching to the inside of the shell plating. The slotted heads were of course removed.  While the plate for the door with hinges were assembled with soft solder into a hole cut in the plating to take it while the hinges were soft soldered to the hull plating, as can be seen in the next shot.

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Fig-108 -   A set of assembled parts at the top, in the centre is the strake of plating with door attached showing the out side, and at the bottom the second strake of plating for the other side of the hull, showing the complete door assembly attached to the inside, and including butt plates.  The one Euro coin about the size of a quarter dollar will give an idea of there size at 96th scale.

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Gerald, always a joy to see your work and the how to explanation. I especially liked your comment about silversmithing; I married one and have watched her hammer an 8 inch disk of 1/8 inch thick silver into a cocktail pitcher 11 inches high with no seams. At the other end she has Hammered cowls for my WWI planes using .020” aluminum. It is always a joy to watch her work, even if she is a little noisy.

Keep up the great work and sharing of your talent.

Ken

Current build: Maersk Detroit"
Future builds:  Mamoli HMS Victory 1:90
Completed builds: US Brig Niagara, Dirty Dozen, USS Constitution, 18th Century Armed Longboat
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Thank you Xken, you are a lucky fellow, to have found a partner with understanding of creativity and can share it with you - never mind the noise, look after and bless her, they are gems.

 

If you enjoy my work and into ship modelling as I know you are with the excellent work on your current project, check out my ‘News & Comments’ page  for March :

 

< http://www.wworkshop.net/Home_Page_/News%26_Comments.html >

 

An idea for a  little sideline tool for you to make, that could make life easier on the more repetitive jobs, like the spokes for ships wheels and the ever present stanchions and elaborate turned posts on most subjects.

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March 2018

Fig-109 - With the Loading Port door in place on the strake of plating, we are now ready to put that in place on the hull.  For this a Frame is cut, here we see it’s location and two lengths of angle iron (brass) Stringers to take the strain from the cut Frame.

It was not possible to get to this location on my last visit to the old girl, as the ladder down into what was converted into an oil tank, was all but rusted away and I thought better of chancing my luck on it.  I have since seen photos of the area, from the recent survey, and there is nothing left of the original.  The door has been welded up and a Frame length welded over it to make good the loss.

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Fig-110 - An aluminium plate is bent up to form a guide through the hole to support the stringers on the inside, while they are being soft soldered - with difficulty - inside.  As we have seen before, this is where the carbon rod resistance soldering unit comes into it’s own.  It would be all but impossible to get a regular soldering iron in here.

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don't know how I lost track of this project.......but I did?!?!   truly excellent work...especially the hull plating.   very well done  :) 

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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Gerald, thanks for the link to the duplicator. I enjoy your ingenuity for building the tools and fixtures as needed, “necessity is always the mother of invention”. As for hr noise it is music to my ears knowing that she is having a great time doing her work.

Keep up the great work!

Ken

Current build: Maersk Detroit"
Future builds:  Mamoli HMS Victory 1:90
Completed builds: US Brig Niagara, Dirty Dozen, USS Constitution, 18th Century Armed Longboat
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Thank you for your comments, always pleased to have them, complimentary or otherwise - The finish will be a simulated iron, before the rust get’s to it - more on that when we get there.

As you are all ship enthusiasts, you might find of interest another ship modellers work featured on my web site this month, 

< http://www.wworkshop.net/Model_Makers_Showcase/Galler-2.html >

He may be known to some of  you for his past work, as Bruce was the one to introduce me to this web site and recommended my Current Log of the Falls of Clyde.  I like his  work immensely and am please to add it to my web site

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Fig-113- We now come to the Bulwarks, the ships plating above the main deck, along each side between the Forecastle and the Poop.  The supporting Stays are made up of welded iron bar and plate riveted to the Bulwark plating and to an angle iron bar riveted to the deck stringer along each side of the deck, called the Waterway Angle Bar.  The deck planking abuts to one side of this, while the other side is filled with cement, hollowed out in the centre to form a Gutter Waterway for the water washing off the deck, and is more commonly know as the ‘Scuppers’.  The photo is of the Falls of Clyde main deck, taken in 2005. the item in the foreground being one of the access points to the side oil tanks.  I did attempt to get down inside to photo the inside of the plating and the  loading port door at this point, but the ladders were almost totally rusted away, so waited for the surveyors  to put down temporary ladders and take the photos for me.

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On the Falls of Clyde there are 38 Bulwark Stays on each side.  The top of each is flattened and bent horizontally to carry the main rail, that is also supported by an angle iron bar running along the top of the Stays and riveted to the Bulwark Plating.  Above this is another section of angle iron, to carry the top rail both being originally of hardwood, most probably teak but are now gone.  

The Stays are placed five feet apart and do not match the Frames, that are two feet apart, or rather the deck beams that are attached to alternate frames, at four feet apart.  It took me some time to work that one out, as I could not believe they differed from the frames.  However I had a friend check it out and that was the result. Why it should be so, I have no idea, unless it was to keep the costs down, why add more if this spacing will do the job in question.  One problem became apparent here, in that the original board room painting of the Falls of Clyde, a copy of which I have, clearly shows that the rectangles between the Stays - large at the bottom and a thin strip at the top - were painted white, while the stays and the uprights that attaches them to the Bulwarks were painted mast colour.  That is  78 tiny rectangles per side all to look perfectly square, exactly the same, neat and tidy, and that with the rigging bars in front of them at each mast station.  As this model was not to be painted but left in a raw iron finish, it was a problem to leave for another day, namely for the fully rigged waterline model - and a simple solution was found by the time I had started that, the last of the three models.  More later on  that one.

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Fig-114- A copy of a technical draft of the period to show how it was done.  This is almost identical with the Falls of Clyde, excepting that the Garboard Strake of plating is shown as an ‘OUT’ plate, while on the Falls of Clyde it in an ’IN’ plate, being overlapped by the one below.  These are the points to look out for with iron ship construction.  The practice will be the same, but the detail may vary.

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Fig-115-  The Stays,  all  76 of them are formed from .022” nickel silver wire - Why - because I had it in stock, the size was reasonably close, and nickel silver on this scale will take the silver soldering heat better than brass wire.  Silver soldering because  I wanted no breakages, once installed it would be very difficult to replace, and soft solder would be used for the installation , so would likely remelt this joint in the process.

The base for the silver soldering is the Platinum Ceramic plate. We first saw it back at Fig-30 of making the Bulb Iron, and is the ideal base for this work.  Bent wire pins - called Dogs - again I use nickel silver wire for these - are used to hold the parts together, by just pressing one end into the hole provided, the other end holding down the parts in place.  There is a trick to silver soldering on this scale.  First the use of reflected heat, do not play the flame directly onto the part to be heated, but play it only on the Ceramic plate close by and heat slowly.  Then do not apply the silver solder from the end of a silver solder rod, or you will likely get a large blob of it on the joint.  Rather hammer flat the end of the silver solder rod until it is very thin, then cut it into very small grains.  Take a length of iron or steel fencing wire and make a handle on one end, file the other to a point.  Put this in a flame and bring it up to red heat  and blue/black with oxide, now touch the end to a file to brighten a tiny flat.  Dip this in the flux, pick up a grain of silver solder on the tip and apply this to the heated joint.  Some of the silver solder will remain on the point of the iron/steel pick-up tool, but a tiny amount will complete the joint.  The grains can be seen in the small blue tray at the bottom right.  I found that one of these  grains would be sufficient to complete one, two or three joints, with what remained on the end of the application wire.

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Fig-116 With so many Stays to make, and plenty of cheap pliers in the shops, well in Spain that is, for jobs like this, I purchase a spare set of pliers and grind them down to fit the task in hand.  In this case to set the distance between the side arm and the top of the Stay, which is then bent, hammered flat and cut the length as required. 

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Fig-117 In Fig-115,  I illustrate a method of making single Stays with a ring attached, here we see a way of making multiple Stays, the wire with three others silver soldered in place at the correct angles.  These can then be chopped to length, have rings attached, and bent ready for fitting.  On the right I show the several stages required.  First a length of angled brass is notched to take the upright plates, that in full size practice is used to rivet the stay to the Bulwark Plating.  These have to be exactly placed 5 feet (5/8”) apart, this I did with a 1/16” end mill on the milling machine.  The strips of brass sheet, ready provided with a double row of rivet heads, are cut long and silver soldered to the angle brass, one to each slot, making sure that all are at right angles to the angle brass bar.  I use silver solder here as the final joint of the Stay to each of these plates will be with soft solder.  All that is needed now is to trim off the excess brass from each strip, above and below the brass angle bar, to the correct lengths, and drill a hole to take the horizontal bar from each of the Stays. Simple aluminium length gauges being used to mark each one for chopping or drilling.  The lower assembly shows all the parts in place, however only the top of the Stay’s have been soft soldered in place at the point of the silver soldered joint of the vertical plates to the brass angles cross piece, the horizontal bar just being placed into it’s respective holes at this stage.

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Fig-118  Before the Stays are made and at the point of setting their positions  out  to support the Bulwarks, a series of hole were drilled along the Waterway Angle Bar that forms the inside edge of the Scuppers  to locate the foot of each of the Stays.  In full size practice the foot of each Stay would have been provided with a small plate welded to it, so that the foot could be riveted at this point to he Waterway Angle Bar.  With the vertical part of the Stay standing on the top edge of the Garboard Strake, the bottom part of the bar passing into the hole provided in the Waterway Angle Bar, the correct length of the horizontal portion of the Stay can now be ascertained.  With the vertical part lined up with the Garboard Strake, the horizontal bar can now be soft soldered in place and the extension chopped off, flush with the out side.

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Fig-119  Here we see the length of Stays in place ready for the excess wires to be cut off. It was possible to make this as a single length and with the foot of each stay in it’s respective hole, and a spot of soft solder to attached alternate vertical plates to the top edge of the Garboard Strake, it was a simple matter to adjust the angle to match that required. Incidentally when making this part for the full length water line model of the Falls of Clyde - to be covered after the completion of this centre section - it was possible to have the full side of 38 Stays as a single length, to work with.

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Fig-120  Before attaching the Bulwark plating to the Stays a couple of fittings needed to be added, namely two Freeing Ports on each side.  It was more convenient to make and fit these to the plating, before attaching the Plating to the hull. Each of the Freeing Ports consisted of a frame, with rivet heads attached to the inside and a small plate door - Freeing Port - hinged from the top, made to fit an opening cut in the Bulwark Plating, between two adjacent Stays. .012” sheet brass was used for the doors - a little oversize, but less of a problem to work with on this size.  The hinges being made of the same.

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Those interested in the tooling side, will find another new tool shown on my News & Comments page

< http://www.wworkshop.net/Home_Page_/Home_Page.html  >  It will be covered in more detail there and here in due time when we get to that stage in the next and last of the Falls of Clyde models.  I show it now just to whet appetites, and to show that there are answers out there for most problems - they just need a little more thought than going around to your corner store and picking it off the shelf.  The problem here was how to carve ‘Falls of Clyde’ on the side of the wheel box at 96th scale. It took a month to complete that wheel and box, but the tooling created to get there will save half a year solving future problems.

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The tool is a diamond dust point of about 0.020”, would be better at half that size, but I have never seen them available.  This is the one that came with the unit, together with a carbide?? point, that seemed to want to burn the wood rather than cut it.  Having spent so my time making the tools, I wanted to press on with making the parts, so did not investigate further with what cutting tools might be available.  The exercise was really to just mark out the parts for cutting and filing up to the finished shapes, and it worked perfectly, and as you will see much later down the line, accommodated all the polished wooden furniture on the Poop.

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Fig-121 The Bulwark plating and Stays have now been soft solder together, this was spot soldered - for want of a better term - while the Stays were still temporally attached to the Garboard Strake, now they can be more firmly soldered together to form a single unit.

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