overdale Posted January 26, 2016 #1 Posted January 26, 2016 I'm considering building a model of the "Mary Powell' a beautiful Hudson river steam boat. I know that some kit manufacturers like Dumas and Bluejacket make dummy versions of the walking beam engine for their kits like 'Portland' but I can't see them advertised as separate fittings available to buy anywhere. Anyone know where I might look..? Dan. _SalD_, mtaylor and Canute 3
thibaultron Posted January 27, 2016 #2 Posted January 27, 2016 Why not call them and ask? US manuf. , at least seem to be cooperative in such maters. mtaylor and Canute 2 Ron Thibault Shipjack Carrie Price from Pyro kit, with upgraded detailing and history. Going From A 2D Drawing To A 3D Printed Part Tutorial
overdale Posted January 27, 2016 Author #3 Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) I've tried emailing with no response. Dumas don't even make their kit any more. I'll give it a try though. Edited January 27, 2016 by overdale mtaylor, thibaultron and Canute 3
ccoyle Posted January 28, 2016 #4 Posted January 28, 2016 Try sending a PM to MSW member MrBlueJacket (BJ's owner). thibaultron, mtaylor, dgbot and 1 other 4 Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix
overdale Posted January 28, 2016 Author #5 Posted January 28, 2016 Many thanks Crackers. I have just ordered the plans and am casting around for the beam engine. So it looks like I'm committed and it's all your fault. I have a piece of wooden decoration from the original Mary Powell taken when she ran aground and was wrecked on the Hudson so I thought a model of her would be a nice change (when I get a chance!) Canute, CaptainSteve, usedtosail and 3 others 6
mtaylor Posted January 28, 2016 #6 Posted January 28, 2016 Crackers, Why don't you just post a link to the pictures then? CaptainSteve and Canute 2 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Jack12477 Posted January 29, 2016 #7 Posted January 29, 2016 Why don't you try contacting the Hudson River Maritime Museum I'm sure they would be more than happy to help. They have a lot of Mary Powell artifacts and probably a lot of data in their collection(s). CaptainSteve, mtaylor, GLakie and 2 others 5 Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour
overdale Posted January 29, 2016 Author #8 Posted January 29, 2016 Why don't you try contacting the Hudson River Maritime Museum I'm sure they would be more than happy to help. They have a lot of Mary Powell artifacts and probably a lot of data in their collection(s). That's a great idea. I'll send them a picture of the chunk of wreckage I have and maybe they might know whereabouts on the ship it originated. Dan. mtaylor 1
overdale Posted January 29, 2016 Author #9 Posted January 29, 2016 Try sending a PM to MSW member MrBlueJacket (BJ's owner). I have done just that. Fingers crossed! Dan. mtaylor 1
Jack12477 Posted January 29, 2016 #10 Posted January 29, 2016 Dan here's a video of a model of the Mary Powell's walking beam engine. Also see if you can find the book Mary Powell by Donald C Ringwald. GLakie, _SalD_, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour
_SalD_ Posted January 29, 2016 #11 Posted January 29, 2016 Hi Dan, I've also been looking into building one of the Hudson River steamboats. My ship club had plans of the sidewheeler Armenia which I found to be very interesting. What drew my attention to her was the superstructure that was protruding through the upper deck what I've since learned is the 'walking beam engine'. The plans I have were drawn by F. Van Loon Ryder too and I'm in the process of redrawing them in AutoCAD. I've just started researching this ship so I don't have a lot of information on the engine yet but whatever I find I will gladly share with you. I won't be starting this ship for a while because I still have a few months to go on my current build, the Syren. overdale, avsjerome2003, Canute and 1 other 4 Sal Nautical Research Guild Current USCG Harriet Lane - Model Shipways Complete U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways New York Pilot Boat 'Phantom' 1868 - Model Shipways
MrBlueJacket Posted January 29, 2016 #12 Posted January 29, 2016 Your PM has been answered. Canute, overdale and Ryland Craze 3
overdale Posted January 29, 2016 Author #13 Posted January 29, 2016 Dan here's a video of a model of the Mary Powell's walking beam engine. Also see if you can find the book Mary Powell by Donald C Ringwald. I bought the book today too.. Jack12477, Canute, avsjerome2003 and 1 other 4
Jack12477 Posted January 29, 2016 #14 Posted January 29, 2016 Dan, don't know where in Central VA you are (not necessary for you to say here) but for reference - I'm 10-15 miles from HRMM and a drive to Annapolis MD is about 5 hrs for me - maybe 6 to Richmond, in case you want to visit and maybe look in their archives. mtaylor and Canute 2 Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour
overdale Posted January 29, 2016 Author #15 Posted January 29, 2016 Nice idea Jack, and that's a lovely part of the country too .. I may be heading up that way when I finish the frigate Boston if there is a delivery involved so it might work. Dan. mtaylor, Jack12477, Canute and 1 other 4
Jack12477 Posted January 29, 2016 #16 Posted January 29, 2016 Send me a PM if you decide to venture north Canute, mtaylor and overdale 3 Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour
mtaylor Posted February 13, 2016 #17 Posted February 13, 2016 Dan, Did you see this post? http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12754-american-ship-building-company/?p=388537 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
overdale Posted February 13, 2016 Author #18 Posted February 13, 2016 I hadn't actually Mark. Thanks for the heads up, what remarkable collection of information..! I have been looking at this place lately. http://deadconfederates.com/2013/03/18/aye-candy-c-s-s-manassas/ There are some amazing steam vessels of the Confederacy here. Some extremely tempting model subjects! Dan. mtaylor 1
mtaylor Posted February 13, 2016 #19 Posted February 13, 2016 I hadn't seen that site, Dan. Interesting place so I bookmarked it and will also see what's there. Canute 1 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
PJGlor333 Posted August 6, 2016 #20 Posted August 6, 2016 (edited) You can get a plan for the Mount Washington paddle steamer from John Fryant's Paddlewheels and Props website at http://www.steamboats.org/modelplans/index.html. Mt Washington was an excursion paddlewheel side-wheeler steamer on Lake Wiinnepesauke, New Hampshire, and was powered by a walking beam engine. This plan is the one by John Breynaert, that is the basis for the Dumas kit, and includes a drawing of the complete walking beam engine. You can get to the listing for the Mt Washington Plans at this link: http://www.steamboats.org/modelplans/p4-washington.html Pete G Better yet!!! I just re-checked John's Paddlewheel Steamer Drawings listing, and he also offers a drawing for the Mary Powell, which should really be a great help. Three sheets drawn to 1/96th scale show outboard profile, hull lines, deck plans and engine details. Brief history and complete color scheme included. Model size: 37'' long by 8'' beam. http://www.steamboats.org/modelplans/p4-mary-powell.html Should you have any questions about the fidelity and quality associated with John Fryant's own work and his offerings, this page may help: http://steamboats.com/museum/fryant.html Edited August 6, 2016 by PJGlor333 overdale, mtaylor, Canute and 1 other 4
jbelwood Posted August 6, 2016 #21 Posted August 6, 2016 Dan, you might be interested in marine artist Bill Muller. He shows a beautiful painting of both the Mary Powell and the Portland (which I am currently building). He lives in Cotuit, Cape Cod, MA. I have talked with him on the phone and found him a delight. He may be of some help to you. PM me for his phone number if interested. http://www.jrusselljinishiangallery.com/pages/muller-pages/mullerthumbs.htm John Elwood thibaultron and Canute 2
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