Sexyauthor Posted July 23, 2016 Author #31 Posted July 23, 2016 Thanks Wayne! It's interesting that the "official" pictures shows one gunport (aft of the paddle wheel) open with no cap rail and the fore gunport closed with what appears to be hinges on the top and a continuous cap rail over the port. The first picture (with the bottom-opening gunport lid) has a cap rail over the port, while the next two pictures (with no gunport lids) are also missing a cap rail over the gunport. One view on the plans included with the kit show top-opening gunport lids. It looks like I could find "evidence" to support any choice I make (no lids, top-opening lids, bottom-opening lids, with or without a cap rail)... mtaylor, thibaultron and Elijah 3 Quote -- Brian Builds: St. Helena (Constructo kit - build log) Louise Steam Launch (Constructo kit) Adventure Pirate Schooner (Amati kit - build log) Current Build: Harriet Lane (Model Shipways kit - build log) Future Builds: J. S. Elcano Bluenose II (Constructo)
Sexyauthor Posted July 23, 2016 Author #32 Posted July 23, 2016 Progress with deck fittings - main companionway, windlass, small vents, catheads, ship's bell on pilot house, bitts (fore and aft), davits, ship's compass.... thibaultron, Elijah, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote -- Brian Builds: St. Helena (Constructo kit - build log) Louise Steam Launch (Constructo kit) Adventure Pirate Schooner (Amati kit - build log) Current Build: Harriet Lane (Model Shipways kit - build log) Future Builds: J. S. Elcano Bluenose II (Constructo)
mtaylor Posted July 23, 2016 #33 Posted July 23, 2016 I wonder if the port lids were removable? If we look at the split lids used on many American ships, the up lid was. Also, the French on their frigates late in the 18th century had lids that were only used during foul weather. No hinges on those though. There's precedent but I'm not sure if it applies. thibaultron, Elijah and Sexyauthor 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Sexyauthor Posted July 27, 2016 Author #34 Posted July 27, 2016 Working on the funnel - progress so far - installed with the two forward guy chains. Need to do the two back ones but am unclear whether they anchor at the ship's deck or on top of the deckhouse. The plans aren't real clear... More research needed.... thibaultron, Elijah and mtaylor 3 Quote -- Brian Builds: St. Helena (Constructo kit - build log) Louise Steam Launch (Constructo kit) Adventure Pirate Schooner (Amati kit - build log) Current Build: Harriet Lane (Model Shipways kit - build log) Future Builds: J. S. Elcano Bluenose II (Constructo)
thibaultron Posted July 28, 2016 #35 Posted July 28, 2016 I looked at the plans, they attach on the deckhouse right by the railing to the steps. I have a copy of the plans I bought for my Lindberg plastic Harriot Lane. Elijah and Sexyauthor 2 Quote Ron Thibault Shipjack Carrie Price from Pyro kit, with upgraded detailing and history. Going From A 2D Drawing To A 3D Printed Part Tutorial
Roger Pellett Posted July 28, 2016 #36 Posted July 28, 2016 I built this model many many years ago. It is a handsome model and it is interesting to see the improvements that MS has made to the kit over the years and you are doing a fine job with yours. I hope that you won't mind a friendly suggestion. I believe that the vents behind the windlass shown on the drawing are actually the pipes that lead to the chain locker for the anchor chains. The pair of cowl vents that you have placed aft of the windlass actually should go atop the deckhouse to ventilate the boiler room. Roger Pellett Sexyauthor and thibaultron 2 Quote
Sexyauthor Posted July 28, 2016 Author #37 Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) Roger, I wondered about that. I looked at several images (both here and elsewhere on the 'net) and the vents atop the deckhouse seem larger (i.e. have a longer "stem" if you will, that places the "bowl" much higher) than the small cowl vents. Here's an example I found which bolstered my renditiion: And this one - look how tall the vents are behind the funnel... I am leaning toward moving those vents from behind the windlass to the deckhouse as you suggest, but with what do I replace them? How do the pipes that lead to the chain locker look? [Edit] - OK - I guess those things behind the windlass are called spurling pipes and I found images of modern day pipes. Looks like I have more carving to do :-) Edited July 28, 2016 by Sexyauthor mtaylor, thibaultron and Elijah 3 Quote -- Brian Builds: St. Helena (Constructo kit - build log) Louise Steam Launch (Constructo kit) Adventure Pirate Schooner (Amati kit - build log) Current Build: Harriet Lane (Model Shipways kit - build log) Future Builds: J. S. Elcano Bluenose II (Constructo)
Sexyauthor Posted July 28, 2016 Author #38 Posted July 28, 2016 Ron, thanks for the input on the guy chains. I agree that the plans indicate that the aft guy chains attach at the top of the deckhouse. My confusion stems from all the images I've looked at - a fair number of them show the chains attached to the deck (all 4, not just the front two). But this seems like it would have been problematic for anyone walking the deck between the paddle boxes and the deckhouse. So, I'm going with the top of the deckhouse as you (and the plans) suggest. Thank you! thibaultron, mtaylor and Elijah 3 Quote -- Brian Builds: St. Helena (Constructo kit - build log) Louise Steam Launch (Constructo kit) Adventure Pirate Schooner (Amati kit - build log) Current Build: Harriet Lane (Model Shipways kit - build log) Future Builds: J. S. Elcano Bluenose II (Constructo)
Sexyauthor Posted July 31, 2016 Author #39 Posted July 31, 2016 Guy chains added to back of funnel (still need to be painted black). Bridge platform with stanchions and the start of a railing... .... Bridge platforms complete with ladders and railings... Kingposts for paddlebox support (one set with chains).... thibaultron, Elijah and mtaylor 3 Quote -- Brian Builds: St. Helena (Constructo kit - build log) Louise Steam Launch (Constructo kit) Adventure Pirate Schooner (Amati kit - build log) Current Build: Harriet Lane (Model Shipways kit - build log) Future Builds: J. S. Elcano Bluenose II (Constructo)
Sexyauthor Posted August 2, 2016 Author #40 Posted August 2, 2016 First anchor with cathead, block, rigging and chain. Top view of deck with chain running through hawse pipe, around windlass and to the spurling pipe. Excess chain wrapped around pipe until I figure out final resting place of anchor. Once that is done, excess chain will be cut and the end glued to center of the front of the spurling pipe. Elijah, GuntherMT, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote -- Brian Builds: St. Helena (Constructo kit - build log) Louise Steam Launch (Constructo kit) Adventure Pirate Schooner (Amati kit - build log) Current Build: Harriet Lane (Model Shipways kit - build log) Future Builds: J. S. Elcano Bluenose II (Constructo)
Sexyauthor Posted August 2, 2016 Author #41 Posted August 2, 2016 All the deck furniture is now in place. Both anchors rigged.... (phew!) Captain Poison, mtaylor, Elijah and 2 others 5 Quote -- Brian Builds: St. Helena (Constructo kit - build log) Louise Steam Launch (Constructo kit) Adventure Pirate Schooner (Amati kit - build log) Current Build: Harriet Lane (Model Shipways kit - build log) Future Builds: J. S. Elcano Bluenose II (Constructo)
Sexyauthor Posted August 4, 2016 Author #42 Posted August 4, 2016 I probably should have done the coppering a while back (certainly before adding the funnel). Since I didn't, I had to make up this ridiculous rig... However, it let me proceed and here are the beginnings.... I've poured over the instructions, both old and new, and I couldn't find any statement along the lines of "at this point, you may want to copper the hull....". Live and learn.... GuntherMT, Elijah, thibaultron and 1 other 4 Quote -- Brian Builds: St. Helena (Constructo kit - build log) Louise Steam Launch (Constructo kit) Adventure Pirate Schooner (Amati kit - build log) Current Build: Harriet Lane (Model Shipways kit - build log) Future Builds: J. S. Elcano Bluenose II (Constructo)
Sexyauthor Posted August 4, 2016 Author #43 Posted August 4, 2016 Starboard side coppering complete... trippwj, GuntherMT, thibaultron and 2 others 5 Quote -- Brian Builds: St. Helena (Constructo kit - build log) Louise Steam Launch (Constructo kit) Adventure Pirate Schooner (Amati kit - build log) Current Build: Harriet Lane (Model Shipways kit - build log) Future Builds: J. S. Elcano Bluenose II (Constructo)
Sexyauthor Posted August 5, 2016 Author #44 Posted August 5, 2016 Port side coppering complete: Rudder with gudgeons and pintles: mtaylor, GuntherMT, trippwj and 3 others 6 Quote -- Brian Builds: St. Helena (Constructo kit - build log) Louise Steam Launch (Constructo kit) Adventure Pirate Schooner (Amati kit - build log) Current Build: Harriet Lane (Model Shipways kit - build log) Future Builds: J. S. Elcano Bluenose II (Constructo)
Sexyauthor Posted August 7, 2016 Author #45 Posted August 7, 2016 Carved jaws for boom (another set for the gaff not pictured). Holes for parrel drilled also (whew!) - Now where am I going to find parrel beads to go on the rope (ha ha)? Jaws attached to boom: Boom and gaff: Boom resting on main mast (parrel still needs to be added): Duanelaker, thibaultron, Elijah and 3 others 6 Quote -- Brian Builds: St. Helena (Constructo kit - build log) Louise Steam Launch (Constructo kit) Adventure Pirate Schooner (Amati kit - build log) Current Build: Harriet Lane (Model Shipways kit - build log) Future Builds: J. S. Elcano Bluenose II (Constructo)
Homebrew Posted August 8, 2016 #46 Posted August 8, 2016 Nice build. How are you fixing the copper plates? Did you clean them or did they come in the kit that shiny? Cheers Mark thibaultron, Sexyauthor, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Cheers Mark from Tasmania Current Build: HMS Supply - Artesania Latina - Scale 1:56 USS Kearsarge
Sexyauthor Posted August 8, 2016 Author #47 Posted August 8, 2016 Mark, The kit supplied a roll of 1/4" self-adhesive copper. I cut 4" to 5" lengths, cut it in half length-wise (giving me two 1/8" strips). I then used a pounce wheel to add the bolt marks along both edges and then a smaller pounce wheel to add the marks to separate the plates. So, I didn't go the route of individual plates... I think it looks pretty good, and they are already beginning to take on a patina, so I don't think they'll be that shiny for long. I may polish them up and then apply a coat of varnish when I'm all done. I'm playing it by ear for now... Thanks! Elijah, Homebrew and mtaylor 3 Quote -- Brian Builds: St. Helena (Constructo kit - build log) Louise Steam Launch (Constructo kit) Adventure Pirate Schooner (Amati kit - build log) Current Build: Harriet Lane (Model Shipways kit - build log) Future Builds: J. S. Elcano Bluenose II (Constructo)
Sexyauthor Posted August 10, 2016 Author #48 Posted August 10, 2016 yards.... shoulders have been created on the ends, but they need to be re-stained... thibaultron, Duanelaker, GrandpaPhil and 2 others 5 Quote -- Brian Builds: St. Helena (Constructo kit - build log) Louise Steam Launch (Constructo kit) Adventure Pirate Schooner (Amati kit - build log) Current Build: Harriet Lane (Model Shipways kit - build log) Future Builds: J. S. Elcano Bluenose II (Constructo)
Organ tech Posted August 2, 2021 #49 Posted August 2, 2021 I am currently building this exact model (my 1st attempt at a model, save for a childhood failure with the Revel Constitution). You have done a wonderful job! I decided, after adding my standing rigging to the foremast, that the supplied thread is to thick for the model scale. I have since moved to much thinner thread. Quote
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