the learner Posted March 29, 2013 #1 Posted March 29, 2013 (edited) And so the build starts! I have printed out the keel plans and will start cutting wood for the build. The Keel I will make using maple The Board is from anouther build, plenty of room for this build! Note: I have removed this first picture because they include a image of the plans that are copyright'd Edited June 6, 2013 by the learner Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
harvey1847 Posted March 29, 2013 #2 Posted March 29, 2013 Welcome aboard Learner! Nice board you have there. With rails and hand clamps... Which one is the other built you made? Can you post a link to the Gallery? Regards. Daniel. In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel
the learner Posted March 30, 2013 Author #3 Posted March 30, 2013 (edited) It was the HMS Druid which started out as a Hahn build but I moved to here to finish, I got the idea for the board fron the old site someone elses build. Took awhile to find as I did not take that many pictures but here is a picture of one of the mast and the ship on the shelf Edited March 30, 2013 by the learner Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
the learner Posted March 30, 2013 Author #4 Posted March 30, 2013 (edited) Can any one provide me with the thickness of the stern post and the deadwood. some profile views would be nice Edited March 30, 2013 by the learner Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
42rocker Posted March 30, 2013 #5 Posted March 30, 2013 Hahn's HMS Druid is on my list of items to try to do someday. Your's looks good. More pics some day in another thread of course. Good Luck on your HMS Triton. Later 42rocker Current Build -- Finishing a 1:1 House that I've been building for a while Current Build -- Triton Cross Section
harvey1847 Posted March 30, 2013 #6 Posted March 30, 2013 At 1:48 I have part from an 8mm timber. I´ll edit this tomorow. Daniel. In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel
AnobiumPunctatum Posted March 31, 2013 #7 Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) Welcome on board. I will follow your HMSTriton build with great interest. Edited March 31, 2013 by AnobiumPunctatum Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali
the learner Posted March 31, 2013 Author #8 Posted March 31, 2013 Thank you Daniel, The first set keel plans do not show these dimensions At 1:48 I have part from an 8mm timber. I´ll edit this tomorow. Daniel. And Thank You AP! may I call you AP? Welcome on board. I will follow your HMSTriton build with great interest. Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
the learner Posted March 31, 2013 Author #9 Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) The keel is started but I need the sided deminisions to start the deadwood at the stearn and the bow. Before I start that I will embed the nuts in the keel to secure to the building board and eventually the final mounting if the model is completed oops I never put the nuts in the keel and will have to do so now that I have most of the frames installed~! Edited April 16, 2014 by the learner aviaamator 1 Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
the learner Posted March 31, 2013 Author #10 Posted March 31, 2013 I can see I need to learn how to post clearer pictures, this I hope will come with time and posting....practice makes perfect ...well almost! Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
Pete38 Posted March 31, 2013 #11 Posted March 31, 2013 Nice looking keel....scarf joint is real nice Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
mtaylor Posted March 31, 2013 #12 Posted March 31, 2013 Nice looking scarf joints, Guy. Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
the learner Posted March 31, 2013 Author #13 Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) Thanks, Pete, its not perfect but practice makes perfect Nice looking keel....scarf joint is real nice and the same to you sir! Thanks Nice looking scarf joints, Guy. Edited April 1, 2013 by the learner Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
the learner Posted April 3, 2013 Author #14 Posted April 3, 2013 I have started downloading the plans, WOW! that will take some time but for now I have only down loaded the Keel, and stearn Deadwood and I can see I already have some rework To do on the keel. How long are the plans access available to me? Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
Pete38 Posted April 3, 2013 #15 Posted April 3, 2013 Guy.....as long as you are an active participant in the triton builds, you should have access to the downloadable plans. Looking forward to your build Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
harvey1847 Posted April 3, 2013 #16 Posted April 3, 2013 Guy, (Is this your name?) yeah it takes a while to download the files. There is a pdf list on "Trition Line's Drawings" that I posted don´t Know when but it is pretty helpful. It´s from the old MSW 1.0. I recomend you to buy lots of folders and put it together in a biger one. One thing. Why you cut straight piece #5 of the keel? the one that meets the stem where the keel actually ends. Good scarfs! Mines are crap. Daniel. In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel
the learner Posted April 4, 2013 Author #17 Posted April 4, 2013 (edited) Daniel, Have downloaded all the files for the complete build, yes it tool awhile. There are also some duplicate files that had me a little confused at first, but with all the files you had to upload I can certainly understand. One of the drawings I did not see is the one that sits on top of the keel to separate the frames (for a better name) but I need to go back through them again and see if I missed it Yes Its Guy I went through all the builds and did not see what I though should sit on top of the keel ...... Have I lost my mind!? do I have CRS? chuckle Edited April 4, 2013 by the learner Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
russ Posted April 4, 2013 #18 Posted April 4, 2013 Guy: Are you talking about the rising wood? That may be part of the keel itself on the plans. I did not participate in the drawings on the full hull, but on the cross section, we included the rising wood in the keel. Rus T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
rdsaplala Posted April 4, 2013 #19 Posted April 4, 2013 Hi Guy, You've done a remarkable work on your Druid and your Triton is coming along beautifully, very neat work on those scarph joints Best regards,AldoCurrently Building: HMS Pegasus (Victory Models)-Mothballed to give priority to Triton HMS Triton (first attempt at scratchbuilding) Past build:HM Brig Badger (Caldercraft), HM Brig Cruizer, HM Schooner Ballahoo
the learner Posted April 4, 2013 Author #20 Posted April 4, 2013 Yes I believe that is what it is called and I could not find this in the drawings and when I went back through the other builds I did not see any that used (rising wood ) I will have to go back and study the plans as I know I saw a build using the rising wood on top ot the keel. I did not see this drawing in the cross section either Guy: Are you talking about the rising wood? That may be part of the keel itself on the plans. I did not participate in the drawings on the full hull, but on the cross section, we included the rising wood in the keel. Rus Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
the learner Posted April 4, 2013 Author #21 Posted April 4, 2013 Thanks ALDO, long way to go though! Hi Guy, You've done a remarkable work on your Druid and your Triton is coming along beautifully, very neat work on those scarph joints Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
the learner Posted April 4, 2013 Author #22 Posted April 4, 2013 (edited) This is what I am talking about...From Cap't Rat Fink's Echo cross section build Edited April 4, 2013 by the learner Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
russ Posted April 4, 2013 #23 Posted April 4, 2013 Guy: That is included in the keel. The keel and rising wood are NOT separate pieces in the Triton build. We designed the keel to be done with the keel and rising wood all together for ease of building. Remember, the framing and structural details for the Triton build are simplified from what you would see on the actual ship. It is still POF, but not the actual POF like the Echo or Swan class builds. Russ T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
sonicmcdude Posted April 4, 2013 #24 Posted April 4, 2013 Guy I will follow your build! welcome to the Triton family Greetings, Sinan Build log:TRITON POB 1:72
the learner Posted April 5, 2013 Author #25 Posted April 5, 2013 Thanks russ will go back aln look at the keel drawing. Guy: That is included in the keel. The keel and rising wood are NOT separate pieces in the Triton build. We designed the keel to be done with the keel and rising wood all together for ease of building. Remember, the framing and structural details for the Triton build are simplified from what you would see on the actual ship. It is still POF, but not the actual POF like the Echo or Swan class builds. Russ Thank you Sinan, Perhaps you will be the one person that will get me through the build! Guy I will follow your build! welcome to the Triton family sonicmcdude 1 Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
harvey1847 Posted April 5, 2013 #26 Posted April 5, 2013 (edited) Hello Guy! When I started this Practicum back in 2011 I did make lots of research and studied the plans and everything. I drawed lots of sketches just to explain myself how the hull would work. Then I realized that we are working with plans that are just for this task. An "easy" way to start with the POF scratch. No rising wood, no filling pieces, no diminishing strakes... So I made a decision: Stick to the plans. It is up to us to improve them and add more and more details according to our skills. Believe me, this practicum is far way beyond from where I was especting as a beginer in 2011. Best wishes. Daniel. The sketches are just that. As you can see there´s not rising wood at all. The sketches are some "thinking" and might be wrong . It´s up to the moderators to erase this post. Edited April 5, 2013 by harvey1847 In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel
the learner Posted April 5, 2013 Author #27 Posted April 5, 2013 (edited) Before the post is erased! Thanks for the encouragement Russ, I will add the drawings to my files for future refrence. I need to do more research on the rising wood issue. Edited April 5, 2013 by the learner Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
russ Posted April 5, 2013 #28 Posted April 5, 2013 Guy: I would not worry too much about the rising wood issue. If you stick with the drawings, it will work just fine. Russ T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
the learner Posted April 7, 2013 Author #29 Posted April 7, 2013 (edited) I will not worry too much about the rising wood but will definately do a little research on it. Any way back to the keel, not that I have access to the full set of plans I have started my first re-work! Luckly just some additional cutting back of the fore end of the keel. first picture shows keel as first fabricated and the second picture shows the re-work still needing a little smoothing out. first section of keel keel modified! and I have figured it out Edited April 7, 2013 by the learner Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
AnobiumPunctatum Posted April 7, 2013 #30 Posted April 7, 2013 (edited) Guy, I use the upload functuon off MSW. It works just beautyful. Have a look at your last post. Perhaps you've uploaded the pictures twice? Your first keel section looks good. I would redo the false keel. It seems that you have damaged it during your modification. Edited April 7, 2013 by AnobiumPunctatum Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali
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