Santa Maria by ray111 - Mamoli - 1:50

[ray111]

model ship kit by mamoli started a few years ago have continued work on it recently

[ray111]

started planking the superstructure

[ray111]

finished the superstructure on one side of the hull

[ray111]

finished the superstructure on both sides of the hull

[ray111]

trimbed planks

[ray111]

started double planking on one side of the hull.

[Blue Ensign]

Ray what are you doing, I presume you are getting some satisfaction, or why do it, but I find it hard to imagine what image you're seeing from the fruits of your labour.

I have to tell you that this is not wooden ship modelling as would be recognised on even the most generous of assessments.

If you have a genuine interest in the subject I think you need to start with the basics of planking a model, and there is a tutorial for beginners on MSW.

here's the link.

http://modelshipworldforum.com/resources/Framing_and_Planking/plankingprojectbeginners.pdf

if you can grasp the principles of fairing a hull before planking, and tapering planks to better fit the hull, you will be on the road to making a half decent model, and hopefully gain far more satisfaction.

Members are very generous with help on the forums, but they need to see that an effort is being made to understand how to construct a wooden kit model.

I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, but you're going nowhere in the hobby with your current approach, and I suspect many members are at a loss to comment on your log.

My advice would be to get a simple beginner kit to hone your skills on, using the tutorial above.

B.E.

[Ulises Victoria]

Ray I'm sorry but have to agree with BE.

There is a big depression in the bow, and I think that is caused by the front bulkheads not being pushed down fully into the keel. At least, that is what I see in the very first photo.

The right corner of the bow false deck does not even touch the bulkhead where it is supposed to rest, as well as the corner of the second deck on the opposite side. I have no idea how you are planning to plank these decks.

My suggestion, as BE says, is to start with a simpler kit and work your way to more complicated ones, and study the tutorials about planking a hull.

Believe me... I know about trying a Master's kit as a first project. Total disaster.

 

Hope this helps you. No mean to be offensive. 

 

 

 

[ray111]

hi all,

        i had some problems with the kit with some missfitting pieces from the kit and had to make some ad hoc judgements for the assembly of the plank of bulkhead assembly the plans didint show it very welll. the full log is on modelshipbuider.com and i describe the issues i had with the kit, the kit retails for 600 dollars so i expected a bit more from mamoli.

cheers

Ray

[ray111]

continued double planking on one side of the hull

[Steve 12345]

Hi ray as other members mentioned earlier I strongly suggest reading the tutorials provided or I fear as you mentioned the kit was $600 and you may become frustrated with your results 

 

kind regards

steve

[Tigersteve]

Hi Ray,

I think it would reward you to remove all planking and fair the hull before planking otherwise the shape of the hull will never be right. Seems like you paid big $ for this kit. 

 

Steve

[ray111]

removed pins from the hull, the pins held the planks in place with contact glue applied. I have built quite a few model ships this way and they look alright though a little rustic.

[Steve 12345]

Good luck hope that works out for you will follow with interest 

[ray111]

thanks steve, started double planking one side of the superstructure.

[ray111]

finished double planking one side of the superstructure or poop deck.

[ray111]

started double planking other side of hull.

[ray111]

removed pins and trimmed planks with the double planking on one side of the hull.

[ray111]

some flaws maybe in the kit or my craftmanship the mid section was missing ribs i planked around it and the aft section has some issues these will hopefully be fixed with some scalpel and putty work.

[ray111]

trimmed part of affected area at aft of hull also soem adhoc modelling at aft of hull also this is shown in a close up photos.

[Ulises Victoria]

Hello Ray. I am sorry to say this, but no putty and scalpel work will fix what I am seeing.

Your approach should be the opposite: Apply your best craftsmanship first, do the best job you can first and avoid that "hopefully some putty and scalpel work will fix that" approach, which in most cases won't work, and that it shouldn't be necessary if a proper job is done in the first place. Putty and scalpel should only be used to correct "minor" issues, or mistakes. No kit is perfect, and that is where the modeler's ingenuity comes into play.

It seems to me you are working too fast and careless. Take a look at my signature and learn from it.  

 

All this in your best interest.

 

Regards,

[BLACK VIKING]

I must agree with Ulises I don't think that filler will fix that the best way to go is to buy a much simpler kit or do a part work with comprehensive instructions so you can cut your teeth on getting the hang of how these kits come together . Hope this helps 

 

BV 

[ray111]

I had some difficulties with the kit and the instructions were not very clear so i king of did some adhoc decision making where some of the hull pieces went on the spine of the hull.

I can rectify some of of the problems by sanding and putty with some scalpel work i have done this with the artesania latina kit of the santa maria and received comments for that one that it had a rustic look. it should look better in the aft section when i start work on it i purchased an extra special sharp scalpel for the task already.

cheers

Ray

[Ulises Victoria]

Ok Ray. Then please keep posting your work.

 

Best regards,

 

 

[ray111]

thanks Ulises. I have posted a photo of the scalpel or craft knife i intend to use to try and fix the stern section. I have to get more putty or filler to do this work also.

[mtbediz]

Hello Ray,

 

You said you built quite a few model ships. Haven't you had a scalpel or craft knife so far? This knife is one of the most basic tools in building models.

 

Regards,

Mustafa

[ray111]

thanks steve, scott and mustafa, i have attached a photos of the old craft knife or scalpel its a bit rusty as you can see i lost some of the other scalpels i had before somewhere in my unit i think.

cheers

Ray

[Ulises Victoria]

Hey Ray... why don't you just change the blade in your old knife? It looks sturdier and easier to handle than the new one because of its thickness.

Do you plan to finish the second planking down to the keel before tackling the putty and scalpel job?

 

[ray111]

the old knife or scalpel was mostly plastic not metal so its not so sturdy as it looks thanks for the suggestion. have posted some photos of the artesania latina model i built from a kit  years ago its been commented that it has a rustic look will try to be as successful or so with the mamoli kit model.

[Ulises Victoria]

A lot of rigging missing, Ray. Is it finished?