zappto Posted November 10, 2017 Author #31 Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) Thank you Scott! My work on the stern. I noticed it is best to paint taffrail side strips before placing on the ship, they are really hard to paint as they are so curved. Edited November 10, 2017 by zappto marktiedens, Robin Lous, rafine and 2 others 5 Quote Current build: Mamoli - La gloire 1778 Finished builds: Mamoli - Friesland 1663 Mamoli - Lexington 1776
zappto Posted November 11, 2017 Author #32 Posted November 11, 2017 (edited) Started second layer hull planking. Does anyone knows if second layer plank edges near the gun holes should be painted in red or not? Now painted only inside metal parts. Few photos of my fun. Edited November 11, 2017 by zappto Robin Lous, Archi, Old Collingwood and 5 others 8 Quote Current build: Mamoli - La gloire 1778 Finished builds: Mamoli - Friesland 1663 Mamoli - Lexington 1776
S.Coleman Posted November 12, 2017 #33 Posted November 12, 2017 I painted mine black but yes all of the insides of the gun ports are painted. After the second layer surrounds the ports go back over and touch up. Old Collingwood and zappto 2 Quote Regards, Scott Current build: 1:75 Friesland, Mamoli Completed builds: 1:64 Rattlesnake, Mamoli - 1:64 HMS Bounty, Mamoli - 1:54 Adventure, Amati - 1:80 King of the Mississippi, AL 1:64 Blue Shadow, Mamoli - 1:64 Leida Dutch pleasure boat, Corel - 1:60 HMS President Mantra, Sergal Awaiting construction: 1:89 Hermione La Fayette AL - 1:48 Perserverance, Modelers shipyard
Bill Morrison Posted November 12, 2017 #34 Posted November 12, 2017 Beautiful! I would like to see more of the Dutch ships offered. Bill Old Collingwood, zappto and Landlubber Mike 3 Quote
zappto Posted November 13, 2017 Author #35 Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) Thank you for likes Scott, Bill! I will finish gun holes painting, when i have them all done. Today i find out one thing, on the front of the ship sheerstrakes are different on the plans and the pictures of the ship. I am not sure which is correct, i tend to use the plan, because it line up more nicely. Few photos. Edited November 13, 2017 by zappto Archi, Barbossa and Old Collingwood 3 Quote Current build: Mamoli - La gloire 1778 Finished builds: Mamoli - Friesland 1663 Mamoli - Lexington 1776
ken3335 Posted November 13, 2017 #36 Posted November 13, 2017 Hi Zappto, This is becoming an interesting log to follow. Some very clean, neat work going on here and it's showing great promise. Keep it up. Ken Old Collingwood, zappto and Robin Lous 3 Quote
amateur Posted November 13, 2017 #37 Posted November 13, 2017 The plan is correct, but due to the form of the bow, you'll notice that the planks will have a severe tendency to do what you see on the foto. There is one thing where the plan is not correct (actually, more, but this one is easy to correct): The hawseholes are one wale too low: the should give acces to the main gundeck, the way they are drawn now, ends up below the deck. Jan zappto, Robin Lous, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote
zappto Posted November 13, 2017 Author #38 Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) Thank you Ken, appreciate that. Thank you for the help Amateur!, i will use the plan then. I see your pictures shows hawseholes are in the correct hight. Drawings not always correct, i noticed on the kit. Already noticed that gun carriages must be placed before placing second deck, it was not mentioned in the instruction. I will keep working on the planking, long way to go. Edited November 13, 2017 by zappto Old Collingwood and Robin Lous 2 Quote Current build: Mamoli - La gloire 1778 Finished builds: Mamoli - Friesland 1663 Mamoli - Lexington 1776
amateur Posted November 13, 2017 #39 Posted November 13, 2017 btw The foto is from the book by Heinrich Winter, describing the model of a Dutch 80 guns ship. (model lost in the war...). Mamoli based its model on the book and the drawings that came with it. Jan Old Collingwood and zappto 2 Quote
zappto Posted November 14, 2017 Author #40 Posted November 14, 2017 (edited) Thank you Jan, i just got book of R.Morton Nance. A lot of nice pictures there, i hope to use some i ideas. Now working on the back of the ship, placing ornaments, which necessary for planking. I dont know what do do with keel, its edge is not covered with wood, i might place some spare plank on it later. Few photos. Edited November 14, 2017 by zappto rafine, Robin Lous and Barbossa 3 Quote Current build: Mamoli - La gloire 1778 Finished builds: Mamoli - Friesland 1663 Mamoli - Lexington 1776
S.Coleman Posted November 14, 2017 #41 Posted November 14, 2017 Looking great. I never angled my stern planks I wish I did. Kicking myself now! It looks great. The model gets quite heavy when all the decorations are on!! Landlubber Mike and zappto 2 Quote Regards, Scott Current build: 1:75 Friesland, Mamoli Completed builds: 1:64 Rattlesnake, Mamoli - 1:64 HMS Bounty, Mamoli - 1:54 Adventure, Amati - 1:80 King of the Mississippi, AL 1:64 Blue Shadow, Mamoli - 1:64 Leida Dutch pleasure boat, Corel - 1:60 HMS President Mantra, Sergal Awaiting construction: 1:89 Hermione La Fayette AL - 1:48 Perserverance, Modelers shipyard
Old Collingwood Posted November 14, 2017 #42 Posted November 14, 2017 She is looking very nice - very distinctive color with the green. OC, zappto 1 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
zappto Posted November 15, 2017 Author #43 Posted November 15, 2017 Thank you for your likes! Yes, it is getting heavy, hope will not brake my ship holder! I was wondering if it would be possible to make gun holes openings working, which could close and open. Kit provide simple plastic openings holders. Doing research on this. Quote Current build: Mamoli - La gloire 1778 Finished builds: Mamoli - Friesland 1663 Mamoli - Lexington 1776
zappto Posted November 19, 2017 Author #44 Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) Hi, work going on the planking, added inner support for gun ports, few photos. Edited November 19, 2017 by zappto rafine, Erik H, Old Collingwood and 4 others 7 Quote Current build: Mamoli - La gloire 1778 Finished builds: Mamoli - Friesland 1663 Mamoli - Lexington 1776
Old Collingwood Posted November 19, 2017 #45 Posted November 19, 2017 Very nice work. OC. zappto 1 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
Barbossa Posted November 20, 2017 #46 Posted November 20, 2017 Nice, clean and crisp work on the gunports Keep up the good work Old Collingwood and zappto 2 Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement)
zappto Posted November 26, 2017 Author #47 Posted November 26, 2017 (edited) Thank you Christian, OC, for checking! My work going on upper planking line adjusting. A lot of measures to make it symmetric both sides. Shaping front and rear castle lines and inside planking. Few photos. Edited November 26, 2017 by zappto rafine, Old Collingwood and Barbossa 3 Quote Current build: Mamoli - La gloire 1778 Finished builds: Mamoli - Friesland 1663 Mamoli - Lexington 1776
zappto Posted November 27, 2017 Author #48 Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) Creating inside planking of the upper decks. I am still not sure if i will paint deck side planking in red, i have noticed original photos of the model are painted solid red. Few photos. Edited November 27, 2017 by zappto marktiedens, S.Coleman, rafine and 3 others 6 Quote Current build: Mamoli - La gloire 1778 Finished builds: Mamoli - Friesland 1663 Mamoli - Lexington 1776
Old Collingwood Posted November 27, 2017 #49 Posted November 27, 2017 3 hours ago, zappto said: Creating inside planking of the upper decks. I am still not sure if i will paint deck side planking in red, i have noticed original photos of the model are painted solid red. Few photos. She is looking really nice, with the inside bulwarks you could try red ocre as I beliieve it was a faily normal paint medium, perhaps you could try that, (Its the same color as inside my bulwarks on my build). OC. rafine, zappto, Landlubber Mike and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
zappto Posted November 30, 2017 Author #50 Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) Thank you OC, i have used red ocre for side decks. I sow your build, this color looks really well on your ship. I have noticed painting is much more relaxing then wood work. Few photos. Edited November 30, 2017 by zappto Robin Lous, Barbossa, rafine and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: Mamoli - La gloire 1778 Finished builds: Mamoli - Friesland 1663 Mamoli - Lexington 1776
Old Collingwood Posted November 30, 2017 #51 Posted November 30, 2017 50 minutes ago, zappto said: Thank you OC, i have used red ocre for side decks. I sow your build, this color looks really well on your ship. I have noticed painting is much more relaxing then wood work. Few photos. That red ocre looks really good I think an authentic color really helps with the apperance of a ship. OC. Barbossa and zappto 2 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
S.Coleman Posted December 1, 2017 #52 Posted December 1, 2017 The red inside bulwarks and the green trim look nice together. Looks great. Old Collingwood and zappto 2 Quote Regards, Scott Current build: 1:75 Friesland, Mamoli Completed builds: 1:64 Rattlesnake, Mamoli - 1:64 HMS Bounty, Mamoli - 1:54 Adventure, Amati - 1:80 King of the Mississippi, AL 1:64 Blue Shadow, Mamoli - 1:64 Leida Dutch pleasure boat, Corel - 1:60 HMS President Mantra, Sergal Awaiting construction: 1:89 Hermione La Fayette AL - 1:48 Perserverance, Modelers shipyard
zappto Posted December 6, 2017 Author #53 Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) Thank you Scott, OC! Working on sheerstrakes, reinfrorcements, drilled holes before placing little copper nails. Edited December 6, 2017 by zappto rafine, Robin Lous, ken3335 and 3 others 6 Quote Current build: Mamoli - La gloire 1778 Finished builds: Mamoli - Friesland 1663 Mamoli - Lexington 1776
S.Coleman Posted December 9, 2017 #54 Posted December 9, 2017 I never put the nails in.I just didn't think it would look ok. But that's my taste. Yours looks great. Old Collingwood and zappto 2 Quote Regards, Scott Current build: 1:75 Friesland, Mamoli Completed builds: 1:64 Rattlesnake, Mamoli - 1:64 HMS Bounty, Mamoli - 1:54 Adventure, Amati - 1:80 King of the Mississippi, AL 1:64 Blue Shadow, Mamoli - 1:64 Leida Dutch pleasure boat, Corel - 1:60 HMS President Mantra, Sergal Awaiting construction: 1:89 Hermione La Fayette AL - 1:48 Perserverance, Modelers shipyard
zappto Posted December 16, 2017 Author #55 Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) Thank you Scott. Placed the nails, painted all sheerstrakes black color. Working the handrails. Few photos of this week work. Edited December 16, 2017 by zappto Ferit, rafine, Landlubber Mike and 3 others 6 Quote Current build: Mamoli - La gloire 1778 Finished builds: Mamoli - Friesland 1663 Mamoli - Lexington 1776
Old Collingwood Posted December 16, 2017 #56 Posted December 16, 2017 Looking really nice. OC. zappto 1 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
rafine Posted December 18, 2017 #57 Posted December 18, 2017 Great looking work Zappto. Bob Old Collingwood 1 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
zappto Posted December 18, 2017 Author #58 Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) Thank you Bob, OC. Still working on the green trim. Later will place little gold pieces. Few Photos. Edited December 18, 2017 by zappto rafine, Barbossa, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: Mamoli - La gloire 1778 Finished builds: Mamoli - Friesland 1663 Mamoli - Lexington 1776
zappto Posted December 22, 2017 Author #59 Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) Hi, thank you all for checking in. I am so happy the kit had enough green wood planks, finished them today! Hope later to work on the hull planking. Merry Christmas to all builders! Few photos of full size ship. Edited December 22, 2017 by zappto Andre, django56, Ferit and 9 others 12 Quote Current build: Mamoli - La gloire 1778 Finished builds: Mamoli - Friesland 1663 Mamoli - Lexington 1776
marktiedens Posted December 22, 2017 #60 Posted December 22, 2017 Nice,clean work zappto! I built this kit a number of years ago & remember it well. You are doing a fine job. Mark zappto and Old Collingwood 2 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways
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