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Ok life's taken a few turns sideways lately. Had the place all packed up ready to move and our dreams were taken away............so after some time got a spot to work on the ship again. I've glued in the upper stern and soon planking will begin.post-3113-0-57144300-1373058388_thumb.jpg

 

Oh and Kieth (themadchemist) inspired me to to put pirates onto my ship so here's my first try at painting the scale ones I ordered........post-3113-0-75446200-1373058532_thumb.jpgpost-3113-0-87605000-1373058558_thumb.jpg

 

Ok may have more progress sooner the next time :) :) :)

David     :pirate41:

First Build: Corsair Brigantine

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Love the pirates David, that will make it personal and fun. Sorry to hear the move didn't work out this time.

Robbyn

If you risk nothing, you risk everything!

 

Current builds

Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0

AL San Francisco II

Mordaunt (Euro Model)

Completed Builds

18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro
 

In the closet

Battle Station

Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)

 

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Sorry here as well David.  Hang in there.

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

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hope you are well David and very nice paintjob

 

Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar

Next build : undecided

On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory

Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl

Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi

Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80

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David, I'm a little concerned about the nails in the planking.  I've seen this before in OcCre kits (specifically my Ulises Tug) and frankly I didn't know how to handle it.  I believe the instructions tell you to complete the hull, with the nails, and then sand the heads off the nails and make the hull smooth.  I couldn't envision how this might be possible so I went with just a standard hull planking technique using glue to hold the planks in place.  It came out fine.

 

Believe me, I'm not trying to corrupt your adherence to the instructions.  But, since you're dealing with a single planked hull, you might want to think about it now.  Don't be afraid to ignore my concern.

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

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David,

 

Picture one is upside down  :D  :D

I've got pain in my neck……..

 

Deck looks great!

Watch out with the planking.

It looks like you have a "wave" between frame 3 and 4

Maybe you gan fill frame 4 a little?

So the planking goes smoother.

Otherwise you need a lot of filler!

 

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David, I'm a little concerned about the nails in the planking.  I've seen this before in OcCre kits (specifically my Ulises Tug) and frankly I didn't know how to handle it.  I believe the instructions tell you to complete the hull, with the nails, and then sand the heads off the nails and make the hull smooth.  I couldn't envision how this might be possible so I went with just a standard hull planking technique using glue to hold the planks in place.  It came out fine.

 

Believe me, I'm not trying to corrupt your adherence to the instructions.  But, since you're dealing with a single planked hull, you might want to think about it now.  Don't be afraid to ignore my concern.

 

David,

 

I agree with Augie,

 

I think ( hope ) that you are using glue under the planks

After the glue is dry it is very easy to remove the nails.

A little pin under the nail hat and pull him out.

After that use some filler to cover the nail holes.

That's what I did.

 

 

And Augie,

 

I think you are wrong by thinking that it is single planking…It's double or David has change that.

That's also possible…….

 

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Thanks Sjors.  My kit  was single planked.

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

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Yes, the Tug Ulises.  They actually told you to drive in the nails then sand the heads off and you would be done.

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

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The instructions do state to file them down......I was thinking just use a nail punch and drive them a bit deeper then fill and sand? Dunno if it will work but will try.....and yes this is double planked so any mistakes will be covered by the 2 nd thin layer

 

 

 

 

 

And Sjors just flip the screen lol when in my iPad it has it the right way when I put it in there lol

David     :pirate41:

First Build: Corsair Brigantine

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David,

 

Please remove the nails !

When you put filling over it, maybe you still see the difference.

Use a vice pin to pul the nail a little up and then remove it.

Then you can cover the nail hole with filler.

I shall turn my screen when I take a look at picture one  :D

 

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David looking good :)

 

the instructions for the AL virginia where the same file the nail heads of afterwards. i did manage it but wiht the second plankign i had a few poking through. also the brass nails provided are not reall brass just brass coated. filing them down shows the inner iron which i have been told could cause wood rot.

 

so yes while you stil can remove the nails after the glue has dried

 

Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar

Next build : undecided

On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory

Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl

Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi

Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80

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I'm glad we got your attention  :)  :)

 

At least you do have double planking!

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

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That wave you speak of Sjors is the difference from the master strake and the regular one I have not thought ahead enough to know what I will do about that.

 

 

 

I really do appreciate all the input and help :) :) :) :)

 

When you finished the planking you can use filler to get it smooth with the other planking.

What I did was lay a piece of planking on the wave and sand it down till it is smooth.

It's a lot of sanding, I know…...

So better is to use the filler.

That's the profit with double planking !

 

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Hi David,

 

Just catching up with your build, she's coming along nicely, I will follow with interest :)

Best regards,

Aldo

Currently Building:
HMS Pegasus (Victory Models)-Mothballed to give priority to Triton

 

HMS Triton (first attempt at scratchbuilding)

 

 


Past build:
HM Brig Badger (Caldercraft), HM Brig Cruizer, HM Schooner Ballahoo

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Just a note for my followers......the ship is currently going to be dry docked for a little while. I am hoping to move in the near future and will be discombobulated for an unknown amount of time. I will post back on here when a station has been setup and the build continues.

 

 

 

Thank you everyone for your patients.............:) :):)

David     :pirate41:

First Build: Corsair Brigantine

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Best of luck getting resettled.  We'll be here waiting for ya!

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

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David,

Hope it is a very smooth move! Will be looking forward to your return!

Eddie

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Good luck with the move sir!!

 

Look forward to the return :10_1_10:

 

 

-Adam

-Adam

 

Current Builds

Santa Maria - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB

MayFlower - Model Shipways (5/32"=1') POB
Blue Shadow - Mamoli Revolutionary War Brigantine. (Fict) (1:64) POB (Recommissioned as the Kara June)

 

On The Shelf Waiting so Patiently

USRC Ranger - Corel (1:50) POB

18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways (1:4) POF

La Nina - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB

U.S Brig Syren - Model Shipways (1:64) POB

 

Completed Builds

Phantom NY Pilot Boat - Model Shipways (1:96) Solid Hull

 

Decommissioned Builds
(Time and conditions were not good to these. They have been cancelled =( )

Willie L Bennett - Model Shipways (1:32) POF
USRC Harriet Lane - Model Shipways (1:128) Solid Hull

 

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I took a bit of time and drove the nails deeper and I will fill them so no filing off the heads and they will not poke out.....I know I know .........I was given great advice to remove them all but I drove some too deep for that and was afraid of the collateral damage from trying to dig them all out....

 

Ok on to the advice and guidance I hope to receive........ Ok so I will not use the nails ( much to my wife's delight since no more banging ) so I made up these clamps from clothespins.......post-3113-0-00715700-1377132777_thumb.jpg

 

And I think I will use them this way...

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So my question is if I do this will I not end up glueing my clamps to ship at the same time I glue the strakes??

 

Sorry for getting right back into it....I will try to socialize more now that were almost settled in ........I hope lol...

David     :pirate41:

First Build: Corsair Brigantine

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No apologies needed.  Glad the move went well.

 

If your clothespins stick to the planks from the glue you might try just the smallest dab of Vaseline worked well into the surface of the clothespin before you use it as a clamp.  That should cut down on the adhesion.

 

Welcome back!!!!

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

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