Adrieke Posted August 22, 2013 Share #181 Posted August 22, 2013 welcome back David i like those clamps , might use that idea myself Quote Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar Next build : undecided On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted August 23, 2013 Share #182 Posted August 23, 2013 Hi David , Welcome back ! If it works for you to drone the nails into the wood, then it is ok. Great tip from Augie ! It looks funny when you are finishing the hull and there are a few clothespins left And take your time with reading all those logs….See you in a few months Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted August 25, 2013 Share #183 Posted August 25, 2013 Glad you are all settled in David, and the clamps are quite ingeious...vaseline should work as Augie suggested, but I wonder if the oils might discolor the wood in any way???? I guess I would just suggest wiping away excess glue with a damp cloth and then there shouldn't be a problem..... Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCIronfist Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share #184 Posted August 25, 2013 Once again I am amazed and happy at the tips I get from this great group. Thank you everyone. And sjors could I not use one of the glued on clothespins as a stand? Lol :) trippwj and Sjors 2 Quote David First Build: Corsair Brigantine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCIronfist Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share #185 Posted August 25, 2013 Ok so I thought I would show my new work area (even though its pretty similar to the old one lol) And I was thinking one wall hunter green (the one I face) and the others a lighter either sea pearl or perhaps sage) Just keeping everyone updated lol not relevant but that does not matter lol :) trippwj and SkerryAmp 2 Quote David First Build: Corsair Brigantine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted August 25, 2013 Share #186 Posted August 25, 2013 Keep us posted on the window treatments as well DCIronfist 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted August 25, 2013 Share #187 Posted August 25, 2013 David, Silly question but…..do they have not bigger tables for sale????????? I thought that everything in the USA is bigger ! Nice workspace and so clean…….. How long can you keep it this way? Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCIronfist Posted August 26, 2013 Author Share #188 Posted August 26, 2013 Keep us posted on the window treatments as well Oh good Augie that's the response I was looking for and I sure will keep you posted lol :) augie 1 Quote David First Build: Corsair Brigantine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCIronfist Posted August 26, 2013 Author Share #189 Posted August 26, 2013 Lol Sjors yeah my wife gave me a hard time the angle I took the picture sure makes the space look smaller Quote David First Build: Corsair Brigantine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsaplala Posted August 26, 2013 Share #190 Posted August 26, 2013 Congratulations on your beautiful new work area, as well as the excellent planking work you're doing, she's coming along beautifully Quote Best regards,AldoCurrently Building: HMS Pegasus (Victory Models)-Mothballed to give priority to Triton HMS Triton (first attempt at scratchbuilding) Past build:HM Brig Badger (Caldercraft), HM Brig Cruizer, HM Schooner Ballahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCIronfist Posted August 27, 2013 Author Share #191 Posted August 27, 2013 Thanks again all. And while I was successful (I think ) in getting a few planks on today.........y'all sure made it more difficult on me by not using nails..........but I think I got will let you know tomorrow when I see if it dried right. :) Quote David First Build: Corsair Brigantine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkerryAmp Posted August 28, 2013 Share #192 Posted August 28, 2013 Glad the move went well David, ship looks like it is right back on track!! And I agree the clothespins solution is quite ingenious, nice!!!! -Adam Quote -Adam Current Builds Santa Maria - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB MayFlower - Model Shipways (5/32"=1') POB Blue Shadow - Mamoli Revolutionary War Brigantine. (Fict) (1:64) POB (Recommissioned as the Kara June) On The Shelf Waiting so Patiently USRC Ranger - Corel (1:50) POB 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways (1:4) POF La Nina - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB U.S Brig Syren - Model Shipways (1:64) POB Completed Builds Phantom NY Pilot Boat - Model Shipways (1:96) Solid Hull Decommissioned Builds (Time and conditions were not good to these. They have been cancelled =( ) Willie L Bennett - Model Shipways (1:32) POF USRC Harriet Lane - Model Shipways (1:128) Solid Hull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCIronfist Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share #193 Posted August 30, 2013 Ok here it is before I removed the modified clothespins And here after I removed everything So it seems to have worked out and no more nails will be used however, I do seem so have asymmetric lines so will wood filling and sanding get both sides to look similar? I think I like the gradual bend( on the left side of the last picture) better so will try to get the other side to match after finishing the first plank layer. SkerryAmp 1 Quote David First Build: Corsair Brigantine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted August 30, 2013 Share #194 Posted August 30, 2013 As this is a first planking, do what you can filler/sanding wise to even things out. Just use care with the sanding ---it's pretty easy to go right through the planking at the higher spots if you get too 'enthusiastic'. Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsaplala Posted August 31, 2013 Share #195 Posted August 31, 2013 Planking is looking good, David I would echo Augie's excellent advice, some filler and careful sanding should take care of any bumps. May I also suggest some additional fairing of the remaining portion of the 3rd bulkhead? This should allow the planks in that area to have a smoother curve. Quote Best regards,AldoCurrently Building: HMS Pegasus (Victory Models)-Mothballed to give priority to Triton HMS Triton (first attempt at scratchbuilding) Past build:HM Brig Badger (Caldercraft), HM Brig Cruizer, HM Schooner Ballahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted August 31, 2013 Share #196 Posted August 31, 2013 I agree with Augie and Aldo. That 3rd bulkhead seems to be a bit high and is causing a peak in the contour as she rounds in toward the stem, which appears to be worsening towards the keel. I had one side of my Swift build that had a similar problem. Sanding and filler can make a big difference, before you second plank. That overhead photo really shows the contour of the planking and other then the 3rd bulkhead the rest of her looks perfect. I found that in many ways the fairing process is as important, if not more so, then the planking and fairing and shimming can be done while planking as Aldo suggests. The main thing is, are you having FUN, If so then you doing it right. Keep on Planking DCIronfist and augie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted August 31, 2013 Share #197 Posted August 31, 2013 Hi David, Everybody is saying it all ready so I don't….. Big smile on your face and keep on planking ! DCIronfist 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCIronfist Posted September 1, 2013 Author Share #198 Posted September 1, 2013 Thanks for the advice I have some filler but waiting till I finish the first layer so I can get the symmetry as best I can. It's actually something to plan a bit when soaking the planks for an hour beforehand lol :) Quote David First Build: Corsair Brigantine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted September 2, 2013 Share #199 Posted September 2, 2013 filler does wonders for creating the contour you want, so don't sweat it, it will come out in the end. DCIronfist 1 Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrieke Posted September 2, 2013 Share #200 Posted September 2, 2013 going well David, and you are already been give all the good advice here Quote Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar Next build : undecided On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCIronfist Posted September 9, 2013 Author Share #201 Posted September 9, 2013 This is for Augie since he showed interest in the window dressing..... Quote David First Build: Corsair Brigantine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted September 9, 2013 Share #202 Posted September 9, 2013 I'm lying sideways on my desk to get a full appreciation. Offhand, I'd say you have a better eye for nautical stuff and should bag the idea of being a window treatment consultant cdogg, DCIronfist and Shazmira 3 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texxn5 Posted September 10, 2013 Share #203 Posted September 10, 2013 Hi David, this is looking good for a first build. A late welcoome to this forum and all the help it will provide. I too am into my first wood build and if it wasn't for the gang here I probably wouldn't have even attempted it, much less be as far as I am into my build now. It's a great group, enjoy..... Quote John Current Current Builds: US Brig Niagara on my website FINISHED BUILD LOGS: New Bedford Whaleboat - page on my Morgan Website: http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com/whaleboat-build-log-by-john-fleming.html C.W. Morgan - Model Shipways 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1785-cw-morgan-by-texxn5-johnf-ms-164-kit/ USS Constitution - Revell 1:96 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1796-uss-constitution-by-texxn5-johnf-revell-196-kit/ website US Brig Niagara Model http://www.niagaramodel.com website Charles W Morgan Model http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com website PROXXON DISCOUNT TOOL STORE http://proxxontoolsdiscount.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCIronfist Posted September 11, 2013 Author Share #204 Posted September 11, 2013 Oh darn Augie I thought I had some real talent lol....actually I tear more curtains down at fires then worry about what they match to lol Welcome to my little dock John, the people here have treated me very well and I have some pictures coming tomorrow... I got a good part of the first layer of planks down so its on to fill and sand.......I may wait to sand until the weather cools off a tad :) augie 1 Quote David First Build: Corsair Brigantine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCIronfist Posted September 11, 2013 Author Share #205 Posted September 11, 2013 Ok some pictures of the first layer of planks.....keep in mind I have to fill and sand still..... Ok here's where I ask for more advice............. Per instructions I am supposed to apply the keel( little piece of wood on bottom of ship) after the second planking is done. I am wondering if logically I should apply the keel then my second plank layers can line right up to it, instead of any gaps that could arise. Any comments, advice, even rude remarks would be welcome :) Thanks Quote David First Build: Corsair Brigantine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted September 11, 2013 Share #206 Posted September 11, 2013 Your reasoning on the keel sounds good David. But I'm no expert on double planking so wait a bit for a confirmation from one of our folks. Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCIronfist Posted September 11, 2013 Author Share #207 Posted September 11, 2013 So I try to keep things looking good and then I do this............ And add more wood fill to every spot I can lol Adrieke and 4whelr 2 Quote David First Build: Corsair Brigantine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted September 12, 2013 Share #208 Posted September 12, 2013 David, I did mine per the instructions and added the keep after the 2nd planking....I wish in hindsight I had added it first...as much as you try, without tht little strip of wood to butt up against you will have a gap you have to fill otherwise. DCIronfist 1 Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted September 12, 2013 Share #209 Posted September 12, 2013 Actually David, if you check my log you can see how I attached the stem/keel/sternpost before second planking and then using an exacto and formed a small psuedo-rabbet along the keel line which was used to fit the second planking. This gave a nice tight bearding line and I was very happy with the results. Looks like you have a bunch of sanding ahead. DCIronfist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrieke Posted September 12, 2013 Share #210 Posted September 12, 2013 David after a good sanding it will look good again i see the first planking as training . on my Endeavour i will try and make it look like it should but if not the woodfiller will come out too DCIronfist 1 Quote Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar Next build : undecided On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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