NMBROOK Posted July 14, 2013 Share #181 Posted July 14, 2013 Simply stunning Matti! I love the subtle difference in tones of the red. Kind Regards Nigel NAZGÛL 1 Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 14, 2013 Author Share #182 Posted July 14, 2013 Thank you, Lawrence and Nigel, Im happy you like it! /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md1400cs Posted July 14, 2013 Share #183 Posted July 14, 2013 Matti, Love the look of your ship. Works very well. Nice, very nice !! Regards, Michael NAZGÛL 1 Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 14, 2013 Author Share #184 Posted July 14, 2013 Cheers Michael, most apreciated! /Mati Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted July 15, 2013 Share #185 Posted July 15, 2013 Hi Matti, Very nice color, I love this red, it's much better... NAZGÛL 1 Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share #186 Posted July 15, 2013 Thanks Ferit, Im glad you like it. its tricky to take pics of red. The pics are pretty close, but its darker. The yellowv hue on the hull in some pics are really weird, there is none in real life. /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WackoWolf Posted July 15, 2013 Share #187 Posted July 15, 2013 It is looking excellent. The pictures came out good, the red did show up nice. Keep the pictures coming. NAZGÛL 1 Quote Wacko Joe Go MSW :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share #188 Posted July 15, 2013 Cheers, Wackowolf! / Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 19, 2013 Author Share #189 Posted July 19, 2013 Started with the bow doors area. I didnt do the doors exactly like the kit instructions said, as I want the thinner in the details. /Matti 4whelr and Ferit 2 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted July 20, 2013 Share #190 Posted July 20, 2013 Great build you have going there.Still working on changes to my Sergal kit after viewing yours & other builds of this unique ship. regards,Mark NAZGÛL 1 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share #191 Posted July 20, 2013 Thanks Mark! Im liking your Vasa build. /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md1400cs Posted July 20, 2013 Share #192 Posted July 20, 2013 Matti, looking really good. Your bow doors are excellent. They look very much like the original. Also your kit has a much more correct bowsprit entrance. The Corel is very incorrect. Again I like the look of the aging hull...Nice touch. PS: Thanks for your help with mine [Vasa photos you took of hull drains(:-) ] Regards, Michael NAZGÛL 1 Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share #193 Posted July 20, 2013 Thanks, Michael, and Im glad if I could help! The paint look is inspired by how Götheborg looked when she was new, the tarred look is very vibrant and full of life and nuances. Its also inspired by Vrooms paintings. As a modeler Im used to try to replicate the paint jobs done by ILM on the Starwars studio models. They are very gritty and dirty, and I often land in that look when painting my models. For me its also emphasises the war machine aspect of Vasa. Here is how the basic structure came out. There are errors for sure, but overall Im happy with the result. The kit is quite true to the real ship. I used balsa wood to make something to glue the arced planks to. Next are the steps and details. /Matti canoe21 1 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md1400cs Posted July 20, 2013 Share #194 Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) Matti, Your bow view from above is so perfect Whoa, looks so original to the 1:1. Have"fun"with the lattice walkway pieces, they take a lot of time. Nice when done but labor intensive especially if you will be using that 1628 line drawing as I did. I will look forward to your always great updates. PS: If you are going to put toilets on each side of the bow, don't make my mistake. I put them in the wrong place. I had installed the lateral belaying pin braces first. Then put the two halves together.Turns out they (pin braces) were attached too low, so the "first class" toilets had to go really up front (:-) MIchael Edited July 20, 2013 by md1400cs NAZGÛL 1 Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share #195 Posted July 20, 2013 Cheers for the kind comments Michael! Wasnt the first class toilets up in the galleries? llI be careful. Actually I got scetshes made by Fred Hocker, and Ill try to stay true to them. The steps are rough huh? I thought the area was cleared after the arches were done. Ill go easy. /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 21, 2013 Author Share #196 Posted July 21, 2013 Thanks mate! I scribed the doors to make it look like planks. Then added washes to give it a warmer wood look. Finally I painted a few "planks" darker to give it more realism, I used a slightly less wash for that. /Matti canoe21 1 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertWolf Posted July 21, 2013 Share #197 Posted July 21, 2013 Hi Matti, absolutely perfect! Looking forward to seeing the next steps! NAZGÛL 1 Quote Wolf Current build : San Francisco II (AL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 22, 2013 Author Share #198 Posted July 22, 2013 Thanks wolf! Its not perfect, but Im glad you like it. Looking at the construction, its better to wait with the steps as they should sit against the bow wall structure. Looking at the galleries now. /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted July 22, 2013 Share #199 Posted July 22, 2013 very nice, the colours work very well with each other NAZGÛL 1 Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 HMHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished St-Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 22, 2013 Author Share #200 Posted July 22, 2013 Cheers Kevin! I tried to get the colors balanced to eachother, glad you like it. /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 22, 2013 Author Share #201 Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) Hey all. Just got info from Fred Hocker and learned some things about Vasa. The small ports are indeed message ports used to handle things between the hip and a boat alongside. It was used to climb in and out the ship also. There is nothing indicating there was a lionshead on the hatch, and there is no evidence there were any canons in them. The colors used on the 1:10 is the right colors for Vasa as far as they know, they would not look like pastels as someone said. The colors however is based on the pigments used, but not when diluted with linseed oil, so there might be some nuance difference because of that. Fred Hocker explained that he thinks its a good idea to mute the colors when making a smaller scale model of Vasa, as he doesnt think it looks right. The big ships colors appear differently due to the larger surface area and absorbtion by the atmosphere. He thinks this is more of a artistic choice however. Cheers /Matti Edited July 22, 2013 by NAZGÛL mtaylor, 4whelr and canoe21 3 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMBROOK Posted July 26, 2013 Share #202 Posted July 26, 2013 Hi Matti Lovely work on your bow doors,such an important area on Vasa as they are so prominent. Kind Regards Nigel 4whelr 1 Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 26, 2013 Author Share #203 Posted July 26, 2013 Thank you Nigel! I agree, the doors are prominent on her. /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 27, 2013 Author Share #204 Posted July 27, 2013 Cheers Lawrence, your kind comments are most appreciated! I used different shades of brown washes on the planks on the weatherdeck also. When I mix the washes, I make them very diluted as the wood absorbs it very much. It is easy to make the wood to dark. But its really easy to practice, and if you do it before assembly, you get good control. /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 27, 2013 Author Share #205 Posted July 27, 2013 (edited) Done some details, among them the drain holes. They blend in more in normal light. Also started with the galleries. I decided to only add the bigger verticall pieces, like it is on the real Vasa today at the museum. She should have smaller sculptures between them, but I cant do them making them look right. I could have used tiny pieces of wood instead of sculptures, but I decided to do it like this. /Matti Edited July 27, 2013 by NAZGÛL mtaylor, Farbror Fartyg and Salty Sea Dog 3 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WackoWolf Posted July 27, 2013 Share #206 Posted July 27, 2013 Your doing and excellent job on her. Keep the pictures coming, I am enjoying this build very much. NAZGÛL 1 Quote Wacko Joe Go MSW :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 27, 2013 Author Share #207 Posted July 27, 2013 Thank you Wackowolf! The galleries feels daunting for me. /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted July 27, 2013 Share #208 Posted July 27, 2013 (edited) Really nice painting, I see it like morello color through photo and I liked its spell... The galleries on Wasa are characteristic, by seing only them it could be judged easily that the ship is Wasa... Nice and clean start... Edited July 27, 2013 by ashiponthehorizon Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMBROOK Posted July 27, 2013 Share #209 Posted July 27, 2013 Lovely start on the galleries Matti There is some complicated geometry in the galleries and I think the key is getting the 'bobbin'shaped turrets right.Once these are fitted the rest should fall into place. Kind Regards Nigel Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md1400cs Posted July 27, 2013 Share #210 Posted July 27, 2013 Hey all. Just got info from Fred Hocker and learned some things about Vasa. The small ports are indeed message ports used to handle things between the hip and a boat alongside. It was used to climb in and out the ship also. There is nothing indicating there was a lionshead on the hatch, and there is no evidence there were any canons in them. The colors used on the 1:10 is the right colors for Vasa as far as they know, they would not look like pastels as someone said. The colors however is based on the pigments used, but not when diluted with linseed oil, so there might be some nuance difference because of that. Fred Hocker explained that he thinks its a good idea to mute the colors when making a smaller scale model of Vasa, as he doesnt think it looks right. The big ships colors appear differently due to the larger surface area and absorbtion by the atmosphere. He thinks this is more of a artistic choice however. Cheers /Matti Hi Matti, could you add a photo of these small ports, and boarding areas that you mentioned (if you have)? I don't see, in my mind, what you are saying. I have also always been curious of how the ship is boarded. There is no obvious boarding area on the 1:10th. As usual you so kindly helpful (:-) really appreciated. Regards Michael Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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