md1400cs Posted August 2, 2013 Share #241 Posted August 2, 2013 Matti, You are being overly critical of your great work (like me (:-) Your towers look excellent. Your small timbers that go around the tower are also perfectly shaped. See the photos. PS: Be sure to attach the towers vertically, not angled forward. Though I believe that the lower towers should be all the same size. My Corel had smaller ones towards the front of the lower galleries, I fixed that. Regards, Michael NAZGÛL 1 Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted August 3, 2013 Author Share #242 Posted August 3, 2013 (edited) Thanks for the kind words and andvices Michael, nice pics also! I found it tricky to get them pointing right, they are not perfectly aligned, the small one looks like its pointing more backwards.. I did not get mine right, but hopefully good enough. My work is far from perfect and there are many misstakes, both from me missinterpreting reference and me being new to wood, but I try to relax, learn and enjoy the build. . /Matti Edited August 3, 2013 by NAZGÛL Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Sea Dog Posted August 3, 2013 Share #243 Posted August 3, 2013 My work is far from perfect and there are many misstakes, both from me missinterpreting reference and me being new to wood, but I try to relax, learn and enjoy the build. . /Matti Very wise words Matti. I think that is the key to enjoying this hobby. Btw, for never have worked with wood before, you are a natural. I'm learning a lot from you about painting - thanks! Best wishes, NAZGÛL 1 Quote -Buck Current build: AL Morgan's Whaleboat (1st build) Kits in the ships locker: I cannot confirm nor deny that there may be a few kits in there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md1400cs Posted August 3, 2013 Share #244 Posted August 3, 2013 Matti, Buck is right; You've never worked with wood before? you are a natural ! I would have never thought that as well. R/ Michael NAZGÛL 1 Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted August 3, 2013 Share #245 Posted August 3, 2013 I just had to go back to your first post in this log. First build??? You're not just doing excellent work, you're better than excellent. NAZGÛL 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted August 3, 2013 Author Share #246 Posted August 3, 2013 Wow, thanks guys! Your words means a lot, and makes me very happy! Your skills in modelbuilding, like detail making or scratching is very inspirational and something I only hope to learn some day. Thanks again! /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted August 4, 2013 Author Share #247 Posted August 4, 2013 Hey all, did all the towers. Also painted them. Because of the different materials I had to put on a thicker basecoat of red on them to get them looking uniform. To give them scale and make the surface more vibrant I used black washes and then light drybrushing. Now I can start with the details and sculptures for them. /Matti Kevin, NMBROOK, canoe21 and 4 others 7 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMBROOK Posted August 4, 2013 Share #248 Posted August 4, 2013 Fabulous,just fabulous Matti You have managed to catch the errors in uniformaty of the originals perfectly!I bet it was harder to make them slightly wonky that it would have been to do them perfectly. Kind Regards Nigel Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted August 5, 2013 Share #249 Posted August 5, 2013 This color, this contrast make me ruminate... Day dreams... Fantastic... Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share #250 Posted August 5, 2013 Cheers for the kind comments! Thanks Nigel! They are not perfect, but Im glad you are liking them. I try get good ref and only use my eyes and dont measure when I build, that way I can try to fokus on the look and try to get some of the shape and lines of the original. The backside is that Its easy to get things to wonky... Lawrence, thanks for the nice comment! Yeah it feels good to be able to progress. I didnt know if I would mess them up when getting the badic shape, so its nice to have them done. They are not glued yet, as I will test fit the sculptures on top of them first. Thank you Ferit! Im glad you like it, Its good that I changed it, as it also works better with the brown. /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted August 5, 2013 Share #251 Posted August 5, 2013 love the finished result, and the red is just right NAZGÛL 1 Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 HMHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished St-Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanV Posted August 5, 2013 Share #252 Posted August 5, 2013 Just a quick question. I see some ropes on the back of your ship. what will be the function of these. I might have missed this in your previous posts. I cannot recall this on my drawings from Corel Quote Jan V. current build: Vasa-1628 Corel / Battle Station Mantua/Panart, previous: Statenjacht / Cross section HMS Victory / diorama shipyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jastrząb Posted August 5, 2013 Share #253 Posted August 5, 2013 The details are so time-conuming and really demand many skills. You have them and your model is getting better day by day. Do you want to older the wood or to keep it "looking-new"? Cheers, Paweł NAZGÛL 1 Quote Paweł Current build: HMS Pandora: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/3409-hms-pandora-by-jastrz%C4%85b-constructo-185/ Finished projects: Roar Ege 1:25, Billing Boats Albatros 1:55, Constructo Santa Maria 1:50, Mantua Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share #254 Posted August 5, 2013 (edited) Thanks Kevin! Im happy you like it. Cheers Pavel! Yeah, but if I undertand it right, I have way more detail work ahead of me when I star the rigging, wich you master. Thanks for the kind comment.I think Im close to the look I want now. Tarred hull with different shades of brown, but untreated deck with only moderate washes and many nuances between planks. Im inspired by Götheborg when she was new and also by Batavia. The artist Vroom is a big inspiration for me, his paintings blow me away. Jan, thats wires for the light. They go in below her, but I have them taped at the stern so they will not be in the way or get pulled off. /Matti Edited August 5, 2013 by NAZGÛL Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jastrząb Posted August 6, 2013 Share #255 Posted August 6, 2013 Hi Matti, I have already seen Gotheborg in Szczecin (my hometown) during the tall ships races final. Incredible!!! Another ship which was really nice was Russian "Standard". I'll be watching your progress. I really like it Regards, Paweł Quote Paweł Current build: HMS Pandora: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/3409-hms-pandora-by-jastrz%C4%85b-constructo-185/ Finished projects: Roar Ege 1:25, Billing Boats Albatros 1:55, Constructo Santa Maria 1:50, Mantua Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted August 6, 2013 Author Share #256 Posted August 6, 2013 That must have been great Pawel, and thanks! Here are spirorna for the towers. I looked at the 1/10 and tried to do muted versions of them. The original have different designs on them, but the ones included in the kit are uniform, but I hope the different paint will make up for that. The paint: gold for basecoat, the brass looks way to shiny. Then add green in the pattern needed. Yellow and red details. Finally a few brown/black washes to mute them and make them blend more with the rest of the ship. I only glued the two that had to be done before gluing the towers, the others Ill mount later on so I wont break them by misstake. I didnt get everything like I wanted, but there are so many angles and shapes and therefore easy to make some misstakes. /Matti Salty Sea Dog 1 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre Posted August 6, 2013 Share #257 Posted August 6, 2013 very nice painting of the tops of the towers !! A pleasure to follow your build ! NAZGÛL 1 Quote Completed: Catalina from Mamoli (1/32) European small river ship (scratch build) (1/50) Currently building: Wasa from Corel (1/75) Future: Titanic (Mantua), Batavia (Kolderstok), Friesland (Mamoli), Bismarck (Hachette), Prins Willem (Corel) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted August 6, 2013 Author Share #258 Posted August 6, 2013 Thanks Andre, Im glad you like it! I dont know the english word for the tops. Spira is the swedish word for tips on churches and castels and also the staff a king holds. /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMBROOK Posted August 6, 2013 Share #259 Posted August 6, 2013 The finials look great Matti.I believe that's the correct name. Kind Regards Nigel Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md1400cs Posted August 6, 2013 Share #260 Posted August 6, 2013 Matti, Looking great. You also go the excellent and correct height on your lower tower cap piece. Gongrats! R? Michael Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinkensk Posted August 6, 2013 Share #261 Posted August 6, 2013 great work, i am making the wasa for myself now, also billing boats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted August 7, 2013 Share #262 Posted August 7, 2013 You know you got the towers right when the finials fit and yours are perfect. I think mine took three tries to get everything lined up right. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share #263 Posted August 7, 2013 (edited) Cheers everyone! Finials, thanks Nigel. My ship vocalubary is limited and a mess of swedish and english terms, lol. Rinkensk, thanks. Looking forward to follow your build! Im happy with the BB kit as its quite true to the original in shape and details. Thanks for the nice words Michael and Mark! Im off to Riga for a few days. /Matti Edited August 7, 2013 by NAZGÛL Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliluke Posted August 7, 2013 Share #264 Posted August 7, 2013 Hi Matti I have just had a look through your log. This is an exceptional build. Your details around the galleries and towers are amazing. I'll check in to your log more often, Great work. Cheers, Alistair NAZGÛL 1 Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted August 11, 2013 Author Share #265 Posted August 11, 2013 Cheers Alistar, Im glad for your nice comments! Me and the family been on a trip to Riga for a few days. The city has a very interesting history, especially if you are into swedish history like me. The museum of history and maritime is nice and can be recommended, as there are a lot of old war objects there. Had some work done on the galleries. I thinned down the lower vertical parts as I missed to do that before assembly. I had to repaint those parts, but not to much work. Its not very noticable in the pic, but it made a big difference. Also did the small rounded parts in the fronts. Those small fellows take some time to do. And I also planked one of the lower galleries. I tried to get some of the wonky style of the original, wich I find very beautyful. Paintjob as before: different shades of red on the planks, dark wash and a light dry brush to blend and give some deph and life to it. /Matti NMBROOK, janos, mtaylor and 5 others 8 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMBROOK Posted August 11, 2013 Share #266 Posted August 11, 2013 Excellent work as always Matti Looks great. Kind Regards Nigel NAZGÛL 1 Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted August 11, 2013 Author Share #267 Posted August 11, 2013 Thanks Nigel! /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriss Posted August 11, 2013 Share #268 Posted August 11, 2013 Hard to tell from a photo, but it sure looks like you nailed the red. Like you said; not flat, but without excessive highlights. Very nice. NAZGÛL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted August 12, 2013 Share #269 Posted August 12, 2013 Matti, I think you have the galleries spot on. I find it humourous that everyone else avoids "wonky" and apologizes and you're striving for it. I'm rethinking my definitions when I see something that perfect. NAZGÛL and Salty Sea Dog 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md1400cs Posted August 12, 2013 Share #270 Posted August 12, 2013 Matti, Beautiful. Mark is correct "Spot On" for sure. R/ Michael NAZGÛL 1 Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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