build review Professional Building Slip - Hobbyzone

[Wahka_est]

It was sold out everywhere also but i finally contacted Hobbyzone and they told if ita not in their shop in a month they will make one for me. And they did-really happy with product.

 

So if not available then its always possible to contact them and ask.

 

Vahur

Hobbymill.EU

[Roandad]

Spoiler

 

Hi all

some have mentioned using wing nuts (butterfly nuts) instead of the standard nuts for the clamp fixings. Does anyone know the thread size needed, looks like the bolts are just shy of 5mm

thanks

[mtaylor]

4 hours ago, Roandad said:

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Hi all

some have mentioned using wing nuts (butterfly nuts) instead of the standard nuts for the clamp fixings. Does anyone know the thread size needed, looks like the bolts are just shy of 5mm

thanks

Take one into your local hardware store.  They usually have gages to check size and proper threads to match what you have with what they sell.

[Dave B]

If anyone in the USA is interested, I have one of these which I'm not going to use. It is still in the original box with seal intact.

 

I bought one in 2019 and it arrived with some broken parts. So I contacted Hobbyworld USA and they said they would send those parts to me. But then nothing happened over the next couple months and they weren't responding anymore to my emails. So I fixed the original one assuming I wasn't getting a replacement for the broken parts. Then out of the blue about 6 months later I received a brand new one, the whole thing without explanation. It's just been sitting here unopened. It still has the outer black plastic they used to protect it (looks like a folded up trash bag to me).

 

Anyways, if interested it is available. I paid $64.99 at the time plus shipping. I'll sell it for $60 plus shipping, preferably UPS which is most convenient for me. (or pick up for free from Columbia MO)

The box weighs a little over 17 pounds and measures 41" x 11" x 4"

 

I will put this message in the selling area too, that's probably where it's supposed to go...

 

Dave

 

 

[RegAuthority]

On 12/12/2021 at 10:27 PM, mtaylor said:

Take one into your local hardware store.  They usually have gages to check size and proper threads to match what you have with what they sell.

I’ve just received my box, and am building with the wing nuts and wing bolts modifications as suggested.  I took a gauge and some m5 nuts and bolts I have,  and have purchased m5 wing things from Amazon, due to be delivered in a couple of hours.

[BikerMart]

Dave, do you still have the slip available?

[Dave B]

Holding for you BikerMart, thank you.

[Dave B]

I did sell the building slip I mentioned above, had an inquiry recently so wanted to state this is sold. Thank you.

[Robert R]

I just got mine from Hobby Zone, no delay in Customs.  But I have a couple of questions:

• Has anyone sealed the MDF?  It can be a bit crumbly, especially if the screws are overtightened.
• I like the idea of reversing the nuts and replacing the bolts with wingnuts.  But, does anyone know what thread pitch they are?  I'm not excited about opening the hardware bag and walking through Home Depot and/or Ace Hardware with loose screws/nuts/bolts in my pocket. 

Anyway, thank you for this review and build out.  

 

 

Current Build:  Heller HMS Victory 1:100

 

On Hold:  Bounty Jollyboat, Aritsana Latina

 

[Robert R]

I see someone already addressed my question about thread size.  Thank you.  

[Pierrot]

Bonjour, je viens de recevoir mon kit moi aussi 😉 avec de la bonne colle a bois et des petits sert joint acheter sur Amazon c'est Nickel . Je vais m,attaquer au " Soleil Royal de chez Mantua " Salutations

[Lubber Line]

I'm not an experienced modeller. Could someone explain how the sliding fitting on the Upright white measurement board is used?

[Ken D.]

Hello, I recently purchased at Hobbyzone - Professional Building Slip - HZ-pms1 (hobbyworld-usa.com) They are $75 dollars us plus about $25 to ship. However they have changed the way these are built, the base is assembled in multiple pieces. This makes for a smaller box to ship. I would like to mention that I did find that the clamps for the keel break at the backend easily when trying to squeeze them to clamp the keel. I thought about replacing the small wedge piece with a solid hardwood piece, but instead went with drilling 2 - 1/8" holes in each clamp(at bak end) and went with walnut dowels 1/8", works great. Did not want to use nails.

[Kitzilla]

Does anyone know what the minimum size of hull this cradle can take? I know HobbyZone makes a smaller cradle, but if this one can handle small as well as large hulls, then I wouldn't need both versions. I ask, because it looks like the length is only adjustable a certain amount, and while it says it can go up to 100cm, the site doesn't mention what it can go down to.

[Wahka_est]

9 hours ago, Kitzilla said:

Does anyone know what the minimum size of hull this cradle can take? I know HobbyZone makes a smaller cradle, but if this one can handle small as well as large hulls, then I wouldn't need both versions. I ask, because it looks like the length is only adjustable a certain amount, and while it says it can go up to 100cm, the site doesn't mention what it can go down to.

Hi,

 

There are extra holes for moving pieces but you can always drill few more, plus the fixing "lug" has oval holes for moving. I would say its minimum size is few cm with some adjustments.

 

Br

Vahur

Hobbymill.EU

[JeffT]

I know it will hold the CC Victory not sure of smallest size

[michael101]

The only thing I can say about this ..
it’s a piece of carton ! (I don't want to use ugly words out of respect for the forum)

today I worked  all a day for square the main jig ! And nothing !!!!!! (I’m using the best square over the world the Kinex one !!!) 
So if you working with that piece of carton don’t blame yourself why your ship it’s twisted !!!!
also it’s good for you to know about the “new model “ it’s made of 2 pieces and not from one solid piece ! 
so this post not relevant anymore

I’m very disappointed ! ! ! !

do a favor for yourself don’t spend your money on it !

 

[Kitzilla]

I just purchased and built up the Professional Build Slip, and overall it is a very nice product. Constructing it was very easy, and almost all of went together like a dream. Everything is square and solidly built, and should work very nicely for my upcoming build. The kit has been updated a bit since the original build log in this thread, with most changes being for the better.

 

Wingnuts are now included for the clamps, so a wrench is no longer needed to tighten those. The bolts that hold the various components to the base still require this though, and a nice change to the kit would be to provide thumb-screws for these sections, so no external tools are required to adjust anything on the slip. Anyone can buy some M5 (20mm and 30mm needed) thumb screws online to upgrade the kit, but it would be nice to have them out of the box.

 

As mentioned previously by other users, the base itself is still constructed out of 3 layers of wood, but each layer is now split into two pieces. Clearly this change was made to reduce package size and thus reducing shipping costs. It does make construction slightly trickier, but the way the joints are staggered so they don't overlap means the overall sturdiness of the base is not compromised at all. Once I had mine properly glued and flattened and all 3 layers combined, you'd never know it wasn't a single solid piece of wood.

 

Now I come to the one downside I have with the kit. The way the clamps are constructed, with two main pieces sandwiching a standoff piece of wood between them, makes an EXTREMELY weak bit of construction. I saw this for myself after two of my clamps snapped with only every light handling. It wasn't the glue that failed, but the standoff piece of wood in the middle. MDF has decent compression characteristics, but abysmal strength during expansion, which is what the two halves of the clamp will be exerting to the inner standoff when pressure is applied to them. The kit does provide some nails that can be used to strengthen the clamp ends, but honestly this solution doesn't really work, as smooth-sided nails have almost no grip in MDF. Now I will say that the way that the piece that surrounds and holds the clamps is designed to prevent this from happening, keeping the clamp in compression, it's not a bulletproof design. My recommendation is once you have the clamps assembled, both the keel clamps and bulkhead clamps, drill a hole through all three pieces of the clamp where they are sandwiched together, and glue in a 1/4" dowel as seen below in my mockup image. After it dries, any protruding bit of dowel or glue can be cut away and sanded to make the sides of the clamp smooth again. This will significantly increase the strength of this joint, and should prevent any issues with the MDF delaminating from itself under compression. This would be a nice upgrade out of the box, if the hole for a dowel was precut, and 4 wooden dowels provided.

 

  Overall though a very nice kit, and I can't wait to put it into action. Nice work, HobbyZone!

Edited September 28 by Kitzilla