GrandpaPhil Posted January 5, 2019 Author #91 Posted January 5, 2019 Thanks for all the comments and the likes! I’ve been busy today. I painted the head and touched up the rest of the model. I remade the rudder, and painted and coppered it. I also made hinge straps. I had a little accident involving superglue, so some of the hull got another layer of copper. I made a tiller and attached it. I made some trim, following the Smithsonian’s model. I also made the bottom part of the deckhouse, it’s not glued down yet. All in all, I’m making decent progress and am happy with the results. EricWilliamMarshall, Omega1234, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
CPDDET Posted January 5, 2019 #92 Posted January 5, 2019 Decent progress is an understatement. Looks great! Omega1234, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: NRG Half Hull Previous build: MS Bluenose
GrandpaPhil Posted January 6, 2019 Author #93 Posted January 6, 2019 Thank you! popeye the sailor and mtaylor 2 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 6, 2019 Author #94 Posted January 6, 2019 I am working on the aft deckhouse which is now glued down. I made the skylight out of card and the plastic from my X-Acto blister. Tip for those making lanterns and windows: blister packs are a great source of clear plastic. I use them frequently. I accidentally used too much glue when I attached the skylight to the deckhouse which means I get to do some paint work tomorrow. EricWilliamMarshall, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 6, 2019 Author #95 Posted January 6, 2019 I finished the aft deckhouse. I have also scratch built my first ever grating. I am pretty happy about it. I am learning a lot with this build. popeye the sailor, mtaylor and Omega1234 3 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 6, 2019 Author #96 Posted January 6, 2019 The gratings are made, but not glued down. The galley funnel is also made, but not glued down. I will glue them down after I paint them. I have 2 winches, 1 mast base, 2 pumps, 2 bitts and a deckhouse remaining for deck furniture. I still need to make the catheads, the bitts on the cap rail, the channels, the anchors and some fife rails, so that I have belaying points. I also need to make a platform, above where the bowsprit will be mounted, and a figurehead. After that I need to make some decisions about the guns. I think that I am going to use continental guns (French) and gun tackle because the Prince de Neufchatel was fitted out for privateer service in Cherbourg. I am going to have most of the gunports open. I also need to make the ship’s boats. The Smithsonian’s model has 3. I think that I will do likewise. They will be the last things that I make before making the masts. Omega1234, popeye the sailor, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 6, 2019 Author #97 Posted January 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Wallace said: Your woodworking and skills came to the fore here Phil. Good call with that clear plastic sir. Thank you, Mark! popeye the sailor and mtaylor 2 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 6, 2019 Author #98 Posted January 6, 2019 I have all hatches (with grating hatch covers) glued down along with the funnel and the base to the main mast. There is no base to the fore mast. EricWilliamMarshall, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 7, 2019 Author #99 Posted January 7, 2019 Pumps and winch. I carved the drums because I don’t have a lathe. CaptainSteve, popeye the sailor, EricWilliamMarshall and 1 other 4 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 7, 2019 Author #100 Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) Winch installed. As a quick note, I know that it looks weird, but it is supposed to lean towards the mast. Edited January 7, 2019 by GrandpaPhil EricWilliamMarshall, DORIS, Omega1234 and 3 others 6 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 7, 2019 Author #101 Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) Fore mast winch Edited January 7, 2019 by GrandpaPhil rafine, mtaylor and popeye the sailor 3 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 7, 2019 Author #102 Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) The majority of the deck fittings are made and installed now. The next step will be to make the bulwark fittings and the bowsprit. I am going to temp install the bowsprit so I know where to place the platform, that sits on top of it. Edited January 7, 2019 by GrandpaPhil mtaylor, paulsutcliffe, DORIS and 4 others 7 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
mtaylor Posted January 7, 2019 #103 Posted January 7, 2019 Phil, Since you don't have a lathe, improvise. You'd be surprised what you can chuck into an electric drill or even a Dremel and then shape with files, sanding sticks, etc. I must say that you did a nice job without a lathe. Omega1234, popeye the sailor and GrandpaPhil 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 7, 2019 Author #104 Posted January 7, 2019 11 hours ago, mtaylor said: Phil, Since you don't have a lathe, improvise. You'd be surprised what you can chuck into an electric drill or even a Dremel and then shape with files, sanding sticks, etc. I must say that you did a nice job without a lathe. Thank you! I’m going to try to chuck a dowel rod into my drill for my cannons, and deadeyes. popeye the sailor, mtaylor and Omega1234 3 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 7, 2019 Author #105 Posted January 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Wallace said: Nicely done Phil. Thank you! mtaylor and popeye the sailor 2 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 7, 2019 Author #106 Posted January 7, 2019 I made the catheads and timberheads in the bow. Next I’m going to install the stern bitts (at least I think they’re bitts). paulsutcliffe, CaptainSteve, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 7, 2019 Author #107 Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) Stern bitts, painting pending Edited January 7, 2019 by GrandpaPhil popeye the sailor, mtaylor, rafine and 5 others 8 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 7, 2019 Author #108 Posted January 7, 2019 I painted the stern bitts. I have also made the forward channels. In the Endymion’s action report, the Captain states that Prince de Neufchatel didn’t have channels. I made them really narrow (1/8” wide) to go with this. mtaylor, Omega1234 and popeye the sailor 3 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 8, 2019 Author #109 Posted January 8, 2019 Channels are attached. I added extra glue to give more strength. I made proof of concept rigging blocks. I think that they turned out okay. I’m pretty happy with my progress so far, and how the model is turning out. I’m learning a lot. mtaylor, Valeriy V, EricWilliamMarshall and 7 others 10 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 12, 2019 Author #110 Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) The original figurehead of the Prince de Neufchatel was described as a “Coronal” figurehead. It was unshipped at sea when the British captured the Prince de Neufchatel. I believe that’s a polite way of saying that the British commander threw it overboard. The Prince de Neufchatel was named after Napoleon’s Chief of Staff Louis-Alexandre Berthier. I believe that the figurehead was in the likeness of the Monsieur Berthier. Given the state of things at the time, I wouldn’t necessarily have blamed the British commander for tossing it overboard. By the way, to give credit, I learned all of this on this forum. I would like to build the Prince de Neufchatel as I believe she would have appeared while an American Privateer, so I am going to make the figurehead in the likeness of the Prince de Neufchatel, Louis-Alexandre Berthier. I’m not the greatest artist (or carver), but here goes: Edited January 12, 2019 by GrandpaPhil EricWilliamMarshall, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 12, 2019 Author #111 Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) One figurehead. It’s not perfect, but I think that it will look okay on the model. It’s carved in basswood (because I have lots of it). I already dry fitted it, and it fits perfectly. This is my first three dimensional carving. The rest of my carvings have been flats, like stern carvings. I did a bunch of those during a recent business trip. I just carved pieces from random ships. Note: this will be painted before being attached to the model. Edited January 12, 2019 by GrandpaPhil ccoyle, popeye the sailor, DORIS and 7 others 10 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 12, 2019 Author #112 Posted January 12, 2019 Thank you! popeye the sailor and mtaylor 2 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 12, 2019 Author #113 Posted January 12, 2019 I did a little bit of work on the figurehead. I reshaped the lower part of the torso to follow the shape of the breakwater. I sealed the figurehead in preparation for painting. Valeriy V, mtaylor, Omega1234 and 1 other 4 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 12, 2019 Author #114 Posted January 12, 2019 This is my impression of the Prince de Neufchatel, Louis-Alexandre Berthier. I do not know if it is correct because there is no actual historical record of the original figurehead, but I think that it is a decent rendition and it will do quite nicely for this model. 😀 EricWilliamMarshall, CaptainSteve, rafine and 4 others 7 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 12, 2019 Author #115 Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) Note: all drybrushing and highlighting will be done after the model is assembled, so I can see where I need it. Edited January 14, 2019 by GrandpaPhil mtaylor and popeye the sailor 2 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 13, 2019 Author #116 Posted January 13, 2019 The figurehead is attached. I’m happy with it. I’m working on making a nice collection of rigging fittings (blocks, deadeyes, etc.). I’m waiting on the “Search for Speed Under Sail” by Howard Chapelle before I arm and rig the Prince de Neufchatel. I’ve been trying to get a copy of it since December 10. I’ve ordered it twice now, lol. I didn’t get the first one (I got my money back). The second order has ended up on a truck on the wrong side of the country. I’m waiting to see if I actually get it. If I don’t, I’m going to use the rigging plan in “American Sailing Ships”, which is 1/320 scale (half of this model has been guesswork anyway), and arm it with 4 x 9 pound long guns, 2 x 12 pound long guns and 12 x 12 pound carronades. Zu Monfeld has some nice drawings of Continental gun carriages that I will use to make the carriages. I have plans of 9 and 12 pound long guns and an older style 12 pound carronade in my Anatomy of the Ship books. I still have to make the ships boats anyway. I’m using the plans in the Victory’s Anatomy of the Ship book. I’m going to make a male mold out of wood and build them like Zu Monfeld demonstrates (only out of card). I need the scale molds anyway, because I plan on building many more models. I very much enjoy the hobby. mtaylor, rafine, paulsutcliffe and 5 others 8 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 14, 2019 Author #117 Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) I’ve been making single-sheave blocks and deadeyes. I’ve been making the blocks out of 1/8” stock. I measured them off 13/64” intervals. I made a cross cut there on all four sides. I then drill the hole for the line and make a longitudinal line on all four sides. Then I cut the blocks free. I’ve been making 12 at a time. Edited January 14, 2019 by GrandpaPhil DORIS, mtaylor, Omega1234 and 4 others 7 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 14, 2019 Author #118 Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) To make deadeyes I’ve been using dowel rods. I started by cutting the grooves with a knife. Make sure when cutting the groove you make the first cut from the outside-in, otherwise the wood will split. Next, I cut the deadeyes off. Then I drill the holes and sand the deadeyes smooth. I started out predilling the holes in the dowel rod, but that caused alignment problems. I used an Excel hobby knife with a #11 X-Acto blade and a pinvise. Edited January 14, 2019 by GrandpaPhil DORIS, EricWilliamMarshall, Omega1234 and 4 others 7 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 14, 2019 Author #119 Posted January 14, 2019 Note: pictures didn’t load in order. mtaylor and popeye the sailor 2 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 17, 2019 Author #120 Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/15/2019 at 7:30 AM, Wallace said: Nice work Phil. Do you tumble them all afterwards? I might make a block tumbler. I’ll have to look into it. mtaylor and popeye the sailor 2 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
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