Cutty Sark by NenadM

[mtaylor]

Nenad,

 

You're doing well... very well.  I don't know any of us who haven't done things that we later said "oops" like you leaving stuff under the deck.  The spice is flowing, my friend.  Let it continue to flow.

[CaptainSteve]

Hey Nenad. This is just a suggestion for you, but you might consider using some watch-parts to make the cogs on your windlass.

 

If you do, then you just know I will want to see your windlass in Kit-Basher's ... 

[popeye the sailor]

nicely done Nenad!   you could move the lockers a bit closer and hide them........but I would think the cages were removable,  so they could be cleaned...especially the pig pen.   I can just hear the sailor {tasked with the job} now......."I'm not gonna crouch down there to clean that!"  as for those lockers,  Revell called them sail lockers in their instructions.  there are some 39 sails that fit the Cutty.......I'm in doubt that they would all fit in them.  they could be a utility locker......or possibly even the heads.   perhaps someone can clear this up......

 

have fun with the windlass.........let the spice flow! 

[NenadM]

Denis, in Campbell's plans they are called/named Paint locker and Pig pen. In actual Cutty Sark, you can see a piggy model in Pig pen, and nothing in Paint locker. To me it seems impossible to put there any sail ... when you need to get sail from there, you have to go under ladder (if there were ladders), to jump over windlass and to dive under fore deck .... I do not believe that was the way ... but in my mind a long time ago is a questuon about - where they keep all this when not in use. On spars? I don't think so.

Anybody?

Btw, war was in my place too, Denis ( Nenad VS Wild gras. Nenad wins. Nenad deadly tired to make windlass.)

In the back in thiis picture you can see over 1mm high memory hill for death enemy soldiers

Edited April 20, 2015 by Nenad

[Krelis]

a m*** grass grave!

[NenadM]

.... there are some 39 sails that fit the Cutty.......I'm in doubt that they would all fit in them. they could be a utility locker......or possibly even the heads. perhaps someone can clear this up......

 

 

Here is extracts from original specification

 

 

 

 

So, a lot of them . Really a lot

 

 

Abybody knows their storage?

Edited April 20, 2015 by Nenad

[GLakie]

I think the locker would be more for studding sails and extra sail-cloth, and the rest would stay aloft, either furled or lowered.

[popeye the sailor]

i was referring to the two lockers that sit on each side of the main deck,  before the fore deck...tall skinny lockers.  Revell made no effort to include a pig pen or paint locker in their kit.  I did do something with the windlass and anchor chain...the kit calls for using three pieces of chain.....I used two by drilling a couple holes under the fore deck,  and two more holes covered by the chain gates.  I'm sure you'll get to this step soon 

 

no mowing here yet {thank goodness}.........the snow has finally disappeared!   

[NenadM]

Snow ... what snow ... I forgot this winter how it looks ... and how it is to clean 80m of street alone if I want to pull out car from garage and go somewhere ...

Toward windlass ... I remembered something ... almost perfect look, but 1-2mm less in diameter ... lighter wheel ... let it be over night, maybe I get some of my silly or bright ideas how to resolve this




Morning is by default smarter than evening

Edited April 20, 2015 by Nenad

[CaptainSteve]

Even better than used watch-parts !!!

Edited April 17, 2015 by CaptainSteve

[Izzy Madd]

Snow ... what snow ... I forgot this winter how it looks ... and how it is to clean 80m of street alone if I want to pull out car from garage and go somewhere ...

Toward windlass ... I remembered something ... almost perfect look, but 1-2mm less in diameter ... lighter wheel ... let it be over night, maybe I get some of my silly or bright ideas how to resolve this

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Morning is by default smarter than evening

Hi,

 

Ideas are never silly only miss timed. As they will work somewhere just not in every occasion when you first think of them

[NenadM]

Windlass ...

Canibalized lighter wheel for central strucrure











Rest is wood

Scale is ok, and look and feel are ok










What do you say ?

Edited April 20, 2015 by Nenad

[GLakie]

That's a work of genius Nenad. Using the striker wheel from a lighter?  Pretty slick man!    

 

Cheers

[mtaylor]

That is one impressive bit of work, Nenad.  

[CaptainSteve]

Fantastic job !!
Now ... it's off to Kit-Basher's with that idea !!

[popeye the sailor]

your idea came out in a very super way!    it looks great Nenad! 

[Krelis]

Nice!

[NenadM]

You, boys (and girls ?) are really ... something special ... your support turn me on to try to do my best, and to learn a lot

Thank you very much !!!

On the way to mount windlass after some fine trimming of windlass ...



Lesson learned: I hurry with glueing cages on place ... now they are full of dust ... turn on your brain, even occasionaly, Nenad !!! You realy like extra work?

Edited April 21, 2015 by Nenad

[Izzy Madd]

nicely done Nenad!   you could move the lockers a bit closer and hide them........but I would think the cages were removable,  so they could be cleaned...especially the pig pen.   I can just hear the sailor {tasked with the job} now......."I'm not gonna crouch down there to clean that!"  as for those lockers,  Revell called them sail lockers in their instructions.  there are some 39 sails that fit the Cutty.......I'm in doubt that they would all fit in them.  they could be a utility locker......or possibly even the heads.   perhaps someone can clear this up......

 

have fun with the windlass.........let the spice flow! 

When I got this stage with the two "locker" my first thought was the heads. As they are as close as you can get to the front which is where they are on the Victory. Also didn't the clippers occasionally carry passengers? Who, especially in mid Victorian period, if they were ladies on board the sight of some burly jack with his trousers round his feet would have done more than caused a few shocked faces. So privacy would be vital. And as the years went by and real facilities were added the old ones would have been sealed of and so left with a fairly useless little locker. Just another perspective.

 

Also on the subject of chains. I'm doing the airfix version which has the holes in the side of the ship and the ports/funnels on deck but no mention of chain at all. So unless any prospective modeller is going to guess and plan a long way ahead there would be no chains to hold the anchors on. As it is I've got to drill the deck to allow the chain through behind the "pig pens" don't know yet how I'm going to get the chain across from the hole to the side of the ship. But it could be interesting.

 

Anybody know where I can find some well trained and very strong ants willing to work for nothing...

[popeye the sailor]

the drilling was done before the fore deck was put in place.    I would imagine the airfix version is 1:150.......the chain gates would be molded onto the deck,  I'm thinking.......if it is that scale,  use smaller chain......and be relieved if you didn't glue the fore deck on already    PM me with pictures if you can.

 

Nenad........the windlass looks great!  did you fix the molding along the edge of the fore deck?  you must have.......   unless you have lungs like the big bad wolf........whatever is removable....remove and use a vac    if not......can you buy cans of compressed air?

 

can't get over it.........I like how it looks!   looks like I'll be tearing down the fore deck of my cutty and doing some scratch work! 

[NenadM]

Thanks Denis. I must figure out something. Our vac is too strong one ("Rainbow") and I am afraid to use it ( it will soak whole model at all), but ... wait ... it has opportunity to push air out !!!! Fortunately sails are not set !!

Izzy

I can not help you with ants, I have fight with them in my attic and roof mouldings ...but I can speak with little dwarfs working with me, living under main deck ... but be carefull with them ... they like to drink beer when work and have a bear as a pet, sometimes let bear play with model and make mess for me .. they work in darkness usually when I am sleeping, and I will send them a note. I am old fashioned, and don't use nano-bots. Maybe better solution? Bots do not drink and do not have pets

Edited April 21, 2015 by Nenad

[Izzy Madd]

the drilling was done before the fore deck was put in place.    I would imagine the airfix version is 1:150.......the chain gates would be molded onto the deck,  I'm thinking.......if it is that scale,  use smaller chain......and be relieved if you didn't glue the fore deck on already    PM me with pictures if you can.

 

Nenad........the windlass looks great!  did you fix the molding along the edge of the fore deck?  you must have.......   unless you have lungs like the big bad wolf........whatever is removable....remove and use a vac    if not......can you buy cans of compressed air?

 

can't get over it.........I like how it looks!   looks like I'll be tearing down the fore deck of my cutty and doing some scratch work! 

Hi,Nenad its looking great, if you can't get the vacuume to blow try using a straw and your lungs it will shift most. I look forward to meeting your dwarves, sounds like they are great for the really small jobs so long as they clean up after the bear

 

Hi, Popeye

 

Mins the 1/130 version and the chain gates are separate as it happens I've got some 1mm x 1mm chain and some 1mm x 1.5mm chain and I'm going to see which looks about right. I'll try to send some images later. And thankfully I learnt many years ago about gluing to soon so I've a small pile of part painted and waiting to be glued including the foredeck. So it's just a matter of drilling and passing the chain through. After I've blackened it as its copper. But that's soon fixed with a little brimstone and fire.

 

Keep up the great work Nenad. Perhaps one day I might just pluck up the curragh to scratch build. Trouble is I'd spend all my time remaking parts until they were just right. And probably never get any further than the keel

[NenadM]

Izzy, word "perfect" means: " yep, nobody had seen ..."

[Izzy Madd]

HI, Nenad

 

I was just looking for some info on the anchor chain layout for CS and came across this image

 

 

While it's not brilliant it does say clearly that the 'paint' lockers are in fact the heads.

 

Just thought I'd let you know hope it's of interest

[NenadM]

Izzy

 

If you are interested, here are correct names on Campbel`s plans

 

 

During hervworking life, CS was cargo merchant ship without passangers, with 20-30 crew members, and after that navy training ship. On Wiki you can find nice short history of her, and more detailed history in different sources, if you are interested

Edited April 21, 2015 by Nenad

[GLakie]

I think Campbell would be a more reliable source Nenad. 

 

Cheers

[NenadM]

I agree, George, C-plans and photos are my main source. I think we can not expect from every kit manyfacturer to keep all details 100% accurate. Different kits are adjusted to different modelers, different passion, deducation, skill and ambition each of them. In my oppinion, main problem is that most of begginers and less experienced modelers do not exactly know what they actualy want when start particular building. Also I think my build is nice example of starting without idea what I am actually doing, and growing ambitions interests and ... from day to day. But, this is me, stubborn and persisting ...

Edited April 21, 2015 by Nenad

[GLakie]

What do you mean "don't know what you're doing"?  I think you're doing a fine job, and I think everybody goes through that "trial and error" thing. Just keep plugging away, and you'll end up with a model you can be proud of. 

[NenadM]

My poor english, George. I.mean "what I was doing". Now I think I know what I am doing

Edited April 21, 2015 by Nenad

[Krelis]

some of those pigs must have made quite some flight hours before being chopped up, poor animals, all in the stench of those two heads