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Rob, amazing work. I've been following since the beginning. A real tribute to all that have collaborated. 

 

One thing I noticed is that the stairs top step doesn't go to the top the the deck on the model. But in the picture up above they seem to go all the way to the top. Which is correct?  Is there other photo proof for the lower top step?

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Dowmer said:

Rob, amazing work. I've been following since the beginning. A real tribute to all that have collaborated. 

 

One thing I noticed is that the stairs top step doesn't go to the top the the deck on the model. But in the picture up above they seem to go all the way to the top. Which is correct?  Is there other photo proof for the lower top step?

Dowmer, of course photographic evidence is correct. In the busy image of Glory's main deck undergoing conversion to being a factory vessel, it's clear that, while the highest step is just below, both rungs of Starboard steps actually attach to the upper poop deck itself.  I guess a downside to having so much photographic, verifiable evidence available is that intrepid modelers like Rob and Vladimir are open to stricter scrutiny than ever before.

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9 hours ago, Dowmer said:

Rob, amazing work. I've been following since the beginning. A real tribute to all that have collaborated. 

 

One thing I noticed is that the stairs top step doesn't go to the top the the deck on the model. But in the picture up above they seem to go all the way to the top. Which is correct?  Is there other photo proof for the lower top step?

Dowmer...in this image you can see the step clearly does not go to the top.  They use the poop deck as the last step. A natural progression. 

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9 hours ago, ClipperFan said:

Rob, I passed on your compliment to my wife. She replied that your amazing and that she wishes she had the talent you do. Yes, I was pleased to see you managed to get the corner posts in that tight area. Well done.

I appreciate that.  Still I can identify loads of errors and miss steps.  One is that I tried and tried to make the top stanchions thinner and more spindly, but they all kept breaking or separating.  Turning them that thin was very problematic......so I had to settle on making them a bit thicker then I wanted to...just to keep them uniform and intact.   A necessary compromise.

 

I'm sure I'll have to make other compromises as I progress.  This scale does present its problems.

 

Rob

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21 minutes ago, ClipperFan said:

Dowmer, of course photographic evidence is correct. In the busy image of Glory's main deck undergoing conversion to being a factory vessel, it's clear that, while the highest step is just below, both rungs of Starboard steps actually attach to the upper poop deck itself.  I guess a downside to having so much photographic, verifiable evidence available is that intrepid modelers like Rob and Vladimir are open to stricter scrutiny than ever before.

Modelers license.  I can only defer to what other shipwrights did during the period.  When building my steps I focused on the step itself and gave no thought to the risers on either side.  I may repair them to satisfy the discriminating viewer.

 

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8 hours ago, rwiederrich said:

Modelers license.  I can only defer to what other shipwrights did during the period.  When building my steps I focused on the step itself and gave no thought to the risers on either side.  I may repair them to satisfy the discriminating viewer.

 

Benjamin F. Packard

 

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Rob, I don't think anyone is trying to fault you. It's more about reassuring observers that the actual vessel is correct vs a modeler's efforts to duplicate it. Besides that though, did you ever think, when you began this project over a year ago now, that anyone would be so interested that they would be questioning ladder risers? 

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57 minutes ago, ClipperFan said:

Rob, I don't think anyone is trying to fault you. It's more about reassuring observers that the actual vessel is correct vs a modeler's efforts to duplicate it. Besides that though, did you ever think, when you began this project over a year ago now, that anyone would be so interested that they would be questioning ladder risers? 

Nope.  
However, I did correct the problem. 
 

Rob

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Current build(On hold):

Build log: 1/96  Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/

 

Completed build:  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/

The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."

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Lovely work Rob, I am really enjoying following this build.

 

For my education, re the dental tools you show in a post on the previous page (laying on the deck houses) - are they rounded picks or scrapers?  I had an excellent double ended scraper tool (probably not the right name - but had paddle ends rather than points and were angled and seemed to have a sharp and a dull edge), but it broke under my over enthusiastic use :( .  It was an excellent tool and I have been unable to find a suitable replacement.

 

cheers

 

Pat

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30 minutes ago, ClipperFan said:

Rob, nicely done!

Thanks

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Current build(On hold):

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30 minutes ago, BANYAN said:

Lovely work Rob, I am really enjoying following this build.

 

For my education, re the dental tools you show in a post on the previous page (laying on the deck houses) - are they rounded picks or scrapers?  I had an excellent double ended scraper tool (probably not the right name - but had paddle ends rather than points and were angled and seemed to have a sharp and a dull edge), but it broke under my over enthusiastic use :( .  It was an excellent tool and I have been unable to find a suitable replacement.

 

cheers

 

Pat

Angled lab picks

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Starting to build the main cabin. 
 

 

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Rob, nice start. From the overview you've shared, it's clear that this was a very large structure. I'm going by memory. As far I can recall this long house was 54' long × 24' wide and 8'3" high. From the few pictures available, this structure was far more plain than the more ornate Carriage House. There were similar embellishments between the upper windows but the lower section was unadorned. The same roof treatment is apparent as the Rear House. The doors definitely appear to be all sliders.

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17 hours ago, ClipperFan said:

Rob, nice start. From the overview you've shared, it's clear that this was a very large structure. I'm going by memory. As far I can recall this long house was 54' long × 24' wide and 8'3" high. From the few pictures available, this structure was far more plain than the more ornate Carriage House. There were similar embellishments between the upper windows but the lower section was unadorned. The same roof treatment is apparent as the Rear House. The doors definitely appear to be all sliders.

Rich, you posted before that the main cabin was 18” wide

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6 hours ago, robdurant said:

Rob, You my have answered this question before, in which case I apologise, but what is the material that you're using to make the cabin sides? It seems that you are able to score it to mark the panel lines? Certainly, the effect is very convincing. 

I have wood from model railroading scratch built stock. But I think Model Shipways produces scored deck sheets that are easily used for this purpose.   
 

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3 hours ago, rwiederrich said:

Rich, you posted before that the main cabin was 18” wide

Rob, You're correct. My memory was faulty. I double checked the stats in the MacLean article. The long house was indeed 18' wide, not 24'. The other two dimensions 54' long × 8'3" high I remembered correctly. Oh well, two out of three ain't bad. My apologies for the confusion.

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Started adding doors and windows and the trim on the corners.  
 

Rob

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I plan on adding the windows probably tomorrow. 
The donkey room doors are next.  
 

Then the roof and it’s details.  
 

 

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3 hours ago, rwiederrich said:

I plan on adding the windows probably tomorrow. 
The donkey room doors are next.  
 

Then the roof and it’s details.  
 

 

Rob

 

Rob, are those bars above doors already bottom - first layer of triple composed roof? if so its perfect but if you plan starting roof entirely from the top windows would be very low. V. 

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3 hours ago, Vladimir_Wairoa said:

 

Rob, are those bars above doors already bottom - first layer of triple composed roof? if so its perfect but if you plan starting roof entirely from the top windows would be very low. V. 

Vladimir, I believe those horizontal bars function as reinforcements for the long narrow house as well as being major supports for the sculptured roof which would mount above them.

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1 hour ago, TBlack said:

I understand that the doors are sliders. Therefore, the bars above the doors are the tracks on which the doors slide.

That is correct. 
when I get home , I’ll get to the rest of the house.   I hope to finish it up today.   
 

Rob

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Spent some time on the main house. 
 

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I set the house backwards on the model accidentally to take the picture.  
 

No worries.  
 

Just have to finish the aft doors for the donkey engine room and the addition of the boat skids.  And finish painting trim.  
 

Rob

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21 minutes ago, ClipperFan said:

Rob

What I've always admired about your work is how neat and precise it always is. Your long house is another excellent example of that highly professional attitude you display towards your craft. Well done indeed.

Thanks Rich.  
 

Here are a few pics after the doors and ladder were added.  
 

Rob

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Current build(On hold):

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Completed build:  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/

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A few more. 
 

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Current build(On hold):

Build log: 1/96  Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/

 

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