cookster Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share #211 Posted November 26, 2013 Quick update. Finished the aft dual hatch coaming. The front side will be left open and I'll install a ladder there. Made the other side of the planking for the mizzen mast, still need to cut out the mast holes. Making the deck plank section for the gundeck under the front of the main hatch. It's not finished yet, here's where it will go. fatih79, augie, sport29652 and 5 others 8 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted November 26, 2013 Share #212 Posted November 26, 2013 Nicely done, Wes. Your last pictures struck a responsive chord with me since I just finished the work under the open hatches on Essex. Bob cookster 1 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye2sea Posted November 26, 2013 Share #213 Posted November 26, 2013 The decking under the main hatch looks great, however be advised, under the main hatch on the spar deck is a corresponding hatch on the gun deck and further below a hatch on the berth deck in order to get cargo into the main hold and orlop. Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share #214 Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) Oh Popeye, thanks for the info. Not sure I want to scratch the gundeck hatch. Oh wait, have a spare coaming I already built, maybe I could use that - although it may be the wrong size. I'll check my AOTS book and see if it's close. Oh, and that gundeck planking section is not yet glued down so I have time to modify it if I wish. I gotta stain it too... Thanks for the info! Edited November 26, 2013 by cookster Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted November 28, 2013 Author Share #215 Posted November 28, 2013 I've planked around all the hatch coamings except for one last notched plank, and the main hatch. Whew!! I had to notch one plank very deeply, to the point I thought it wouldn't work. But with boxwood it came out fine. That sliver is at or a little less that 1 mm wide - yea I couldn't believe it either at first.... Also attempted my first plank notched on both ends of a hatch. This is the second attempt, first one not good... I used a #11 blade and a straight edge. I also tried scribing plank gaps. Bob Hunt planked his entire deck this way, but I didn't want to go that route. Here's a spot where it would've been very short to cut a plank. I scribed the joint with the back of a #11 blade against a straight edge. I got this technique from another builder, but I can't remember who... (sorry) Rubbed pencil lead in the cut Then used a damp q-tip to rub the excess lead off. And in place. BTW, 2 of the three joints in this pic are scribed in. Geoff Matson, fatih79, augie and 1 other 4 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted November 28, 2013 Author Share #216 Posted November 28, 2013 (edited) Thought I'd try a few close up shots... And overall.... You can also see in this pic I added support "beams" for the deck planking made from basswood because the ply bulkheads were too far apart. If I had used full length planks and scribed joints as Bob Hunt did this wouldn't have been necessary, but I didn't want to use full length planks. Also, I might as well admit my plank lengths aren't scale length, but without rebuilding the entire deck structure this really wasn't possible (without scribed joints) So I will live with it. On my next build I will do better! Edited November 28, 2013 by cookster WackoWolf, sport29652, fatih79 and 6 others 9 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted November 28, 2013 Share #217 Posted November 28, 2013 Hatches all lined up....perfectly. Scribing and notching. We should start a club! cookster 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambsbk Posted November 28, 2013 Share #218 Posted November 28, 2013 Really, really nice work. The depth of quality just shines out. Quote Dave U.S.S. Constitution 1:96 Revell build with fiber optic lighting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmay Posted November 28, 2013 Share #219 Posted November 28, 2013 Hello Wes,I can only concur with others,truly nice workmanship,Edwin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j21896 Posted November 28, 2013 Share #220 Posted November 28, 2013 Hi Wes, She is looking just fantastic! That main hatch structure is so impressive! The last time I visited her in Charlestown, I was really struck by how massive that hatch is, and you have absolutely nailed it. Robert Quote Current Build: HMS Mars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted November 28, 2013 Author Share #221 Posted November 28, 2013 Thanks everyone! I really appreciate all the kind words... Robert, since you've been to the real Conny (I haven't) you saying it matches the real thing makes my "modeling" day! j21896 1 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted November 28, 2013 Author Share #222 Posted November 28, 2013 (edited) One more quick topic: I added a strip of pear to act as the beam under the main hatch. I did this by gluing on a 1/8" square strip on the coaming, then a 1/32 strip of pear to simulate the beam. I will also do this to the ply bulkhead and basswood strips on the front and sides of the hatch. On the advice of Popeye I decided to try and show the gundeck hatch under the main hatch. I had an extra coaming so I thought I'd try and use it. Here it's temporarily placed it on the gundeck. I think this should be a dual hatch, but by only leaving out the front 2 gratings you won't be able to see if it's a single or dual. I may have it too far forward here though. I just put it where it shows a little. There will also be ladders here as well. Thoughts? Edited November 28, 2013 by cookster WackoWolf, augie, fatih79 and 1 other 4 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WackoWolf Posted November 28, 2013 Share #223 Posted November 28, 2013 (edited) I am not sure if it is to far forward, I think Russ would be the one that can anser this question. But the wood work you are doing is excellent. Keep the pictures coming. Do you have any plans to go by for measurments? Edited November 28, 2013 by WackoWolf Quote Wacko Joe Go MSW :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted November 28, 2013 Author Share #224 Posted November 28, 2013 Good call Wwolf, I checked the Marquardt dwgs and the front of the gundeck hatch is in line with the front on the main hatch. So, I will do that. Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye2sea Posted November 29, 2013 Share #225 Posted November 29, 2013 Your skill with woodworking really comes through. Great work. The hatches are fantastic. cookster 1 Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted November 29, 2013 Share #226 Posted November 29, 2013 Wow! You are my goal when it comes to fine miniature wood working. Watching your work will drive me to be more careful with my work. cookster and augie 2 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sport29652 Posted November 29, 2013 Share #227 Posted November 29, 2013 Great build ! I can't wait to see more progress. I'll be referring to your build often when mine starts. Again your work is top notch ! cookster 1 Quote Eric Current build(s) ; AL San Francisco II http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/862-san-francisco-2-by-eric-al-190-sport29652/ MS Rattlesnake http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/868-rattlesnake-by-eric-model-shipways-164-sport29652/page-2 Sitting on the shelf : MS Constitution, MS Sultana, Wish List : MS Essex, Confederacy, and Syren, and a Victory kit by someone ? "80% of the time it works every time." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted November 29, 2013 Share #228 Posted November 29, 2013 Wow! You are my goal when it comes to fine miniature wood working. Watching your work will drive me to be more careful with my work. That's how MSW works capnharv2, mobbsie, CaptainSteve and 2 others 5 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted December 2, 2013 Author Share #229 Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) Well, I thought I was done making hatch coamings, but I wasn't..... Since I needed one more hatch under the main hatch I had to make it. I did not have the size grates I needed, but I did have some extras I could cut down. So I cut them down, then glued back together. Not perfect, but they will do. I made the hatch coaming with simple butt joints, (I know, I can hear the moans from here!) but it was easier and faster. All done - not perfect but for the hard to see gundeck I'll take it. Started cutting out the gundeck section for the hatch to fit. I'm also still adding deck planking... Edited September 11, 2014 by cookster j21896, fatih79, CaptainSteve and 1 other 4 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Matson Posted December 2, 2013 Share #230 Posted December 2, 2013 Wes Great details and outstanding craftsmanship. I can't wait to see what you will come up with for a case. You are going to have get one of those optic cameras so you can see all the hidden details. I would hate to see what the inside of my Conny would look like. Quote Geoff NRG member #2666Current build : USS Constitution Finished builds: Armed Virginia Sloop (in gallery) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share #231 Posted December 3, 2013 Once again, thanks guys! Popeye2, you're the reason I made that extra hatch, thanks again! (I think ) Rich, been watching your build, just take your time, she's looking good! Thanks Sport! Geoff, I already have some case ideas (Mahogany w/cabriolet (queen Anne) legs and a printed sea or port of Boston backdrop) but I think I'm a couple years away from needing it.... As far as the mini-camera, don't give me any ideas... There's only extra (almost) hidden stuff in 2 places really anyway. But my next build, well, you never know.... And as far as this mini-woodworking, there's still several pieces I'm VERY worried about, namely the bitts and fife rails. I know how I want to build them, but it's gonna be tough. Simple butt joints aren't going to do. Accurate half-laps and mortises at that small size are gonna be a pain. Then there's the sheaves... and cleats... Then I gotta pin them to the deck. I wanted to cut notches in the deck for them very badly but that would've required MUCH planning, and I finally decided against it. Pinning them will work, but drilling a few holes in hopefully the right spot, and *hoping* they fit just won't cut it. I've thought of numerous jigs for this and I probably won't settle on one until I actually start making them. But alas, that's for later... Now back to planking CaptainSteve 1 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted December 4, 2013 Share #232 Posted December 4, 2013 Wes, you must be getting fed up with making those gratings mate, but I must say they are a work of art, well done. Good luck with the remaining decking, Bitts and Fife Rails. Be Good mobbsie cookster 1 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted December 7, 2013 Author Share #233 Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) Thanks Mobbsie! OK, still working on the gundeck planking sections (that will be barely visible . Got 2 sections done and stained. I put wipe on poly on the coaming and stained the grate. I thought I would like the stain, I had tried it on a test piece - but after seeing it in the coming I don't think I like it. So, I will probably leave the grates natural on the spar deck. Here's the first section installed.... Edited September 11, 2014 by cookster WackoWolf, rafine, fatih79 and 5 others 8 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSteve Posted December 7, 2013 Share #234 Posted December 7, 2013 Wes, Fantastic work, I must say !! My only complaint is that you (and all the other Connie builders) are adding YEARS to my own build time !! (Oh well, I'll get over it) Keep the pics coming. cookster 1 Quote CaptainSteve Current Build: HM Granado Bomb Vessel (Caldercraft) My BathTub: Queen Anne Barge (Syren Ship Models) Log: Queen Anne Barge (an build log) Bounty Launch (Model Shipways) Log: Bounty Launch by CaptainSteve Apostol Felipe (OcCre) HMS Victory (Constructo) Check It Out: The Kit-Basher's Guide to The Galaxy Website: The Life & Boats of CaptainSteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted December 14, 2013 Author Share #235 Posted December 14, 2013 (edited) Steve, good luck on your Conny. I had not intended to add any "extras" to my build when I started out, but as I got into the build and got comfortable with my skills, and I found so much info on MSW, I decided to "go beyond the kit". Good luck on your Conny! No update for my Conny at the moment, I've added more deck planks but nothing worth showing. I have been spending a lot of time lately at the drafting table (read: computer) working on dwgs for my next build. Not at liberty yet to say what it is, but I hope it will be an interesting subject. I hope to work on a proof of concept during my 2 week Christmas break from work. I'll post more Conny pics this weekend. Again, thanks to everyone for looking in! Edited December 14, 2013 by cookster CaptainSteve and augie 2 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share #236 Posted January 4, 2014 Hi all, sorry I haven't posted in a while, had to get through Christmas and new years... Work on my Conny continues, I'm still deck planking. Will try to post some pics this weekend. I've also started on my new scratchbuild project, will post that in the scratch forum when I have enough content to post. My Christmas present finally arrived today, a Sherline 5400 mill and accessories. I took advantage of their Christmas sale and ordered right before Christmas. Now, I have to put it together, take some pics, then try to make something! I also got their "Tabletop Machining" book, just looking at the first few pages makes my mouth water. This should be an awesome book... I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas and will have a prosperous new year! WackoWolf and augie 2 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WackoWolf Posted January 4, 2014 Share #237 Posted January 4, 2014 I know you will have fun with you new toys. Glad to hear that you went with Sherline. Post pictures when you can and have fun. Quote Wacko Joe Go MSW :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted January 27, 2014 Author Share #238 Posted January 27, 2014 Well, it's been awhile since I posted, I've had many things to deal with lately that have kept me out of the shipyard. Even my scratchbuild of Essex is suffering, but at least on that one I have been working on my drawings. On Conny I have been adding deck planking slowly whenever i had time. I actually had forgotten where I was when I last posted so there's been more progress than I thought, although it is slow going. With that said, pics of current progress .... Dubz, HIPEXEC, mobbsie and 3 others 6 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted January 27, 2014 Share #239 Posted January 27, 2014 There is some seriously impressive work going here mate, I love every update. Keep it up Wes. Be Good mobbsie WackoWolf, CaptainSteve, augie and 1 other 4 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted January 28, 2014 Author Share #240 Posted January 28, 2014 Let me ask for your indulgence as I post a few gratuitous "here's my planking pics". I do think these look pretty cool, from a "crewman's" point of view. I also want to add again what a pleasure it is to use Jeff Hayes (Hobbymil) supplied boxwood deck planking. Makes all the difference in the world over basswood... rafine, mobbsie, CaptainSteve and 9 others 12 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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