tlee01 Posted September 6, 2021 Share #1 Posted September 6, 2021 This is my very first build. I always have been fascinated with model ships from the first time I saw a model in the Chart House restaurant in Christiansted USVI some 40 years ago to going down to the Seaport Museum in Philadelphia and watching some of the members of the Philadelphia Ship Model Society in the Ship Shack (before covid) build their models. A little about myself, just pasted my 64th birthday and looking forward to retiring in a couple of years. I am a mechanical engineer and a partner in a small engineering firm. The last 10 or so years I do more of running the company and really miss do designing and watch my design come to be. I am hoping this will full fill some of missing part of design. While not doing the design but figuring out the problems and challenges that come from building a model. In reading the build logs and seeing what people do is amazing. I was inspired by lraymo and following her as she did her first build. I have chosen the dory because of the Model Shipways Shipwright Series builds on each kit and I download the instruction and they seem clear. I have read about some of the instruction that come with some kits and rather have something clear in the beginning. nehemiah, ccoyle, Ryland Craze and 1 other 4 Quote Life is to short to be serious all the time. So, if you can't laugh at yourself, your not doing it right. Current Builds 18th Century Armed Longboat Finished Builds Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Lowell Grand Banks Dory Norwegian Sailing Pram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryland Craze Posted September 6, 2021 Share #2 Posted September 6, 2021 Welcome to Model Ship World. You have picked a good kit for your first wooden ship model kit. If you click on the "Lowell Grand Banks Dory" tag below the title at the top of this page, it will display all of the build logs on MSW of this kit. This kit builds into a very nice model. Good luck on your build. Quote Ryland Member - Hampton Roads Ship Model Society - Ship Model Society of New Jersey - Nautical Research Guild Current Build - Armed Virginia Sloop, 18th Century Longboat Completed Build - Medway Longboat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlee01 Posted September 9, 2021 Author Share #3 Posted September 9, 2021 The model has arrived and it was time for unboxing. Inventory complete. First mistake, I thought I bought the kit with to tolls included. So out to the local hoppy store for a x-acko knife, then Staples and finally Lowes and the following other supplies: Yellow glue Craft sticks (for sanding sticks) Clothing clips for clamping Sand paper Clamps Next created sanding sticks and off to build the bottom. Next revelation, my gluing technique was terrible and I can only go up from here. Is amazing how my mind envisions something and my hands are having trouble to create what I envision. But after multiple tries and then sanding the bottom is complete. Another benefit of doing a build log is I get to work on my macro photography. I need to work on this to. BenD, bruce d, GrandpaPhil and 2 others 5 Quote Life is to short to be serious all the time. So, if you can't laugh at yourself, your not doing it right. Current Builds 18th Century Armed Longboat Finished Builds Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Lowell Grand Banks Dory Norwegian Sailing Pram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted September 9, 2021 Share #4 Posted September 9, 2021 Well, you've made a good start. Looks like your gluing technique improved rapidly! Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlee01 Posted September 13, 2021 Author Share #5 Posted September 13, 2021 Wow, I now know what people say this is going to teach me patience. Thought I was on a roll, six bottom cleats, no problem. Then the stem, I thought my clamp set up was ok. I let it set up, remove the clamp and it’s not straight. Another discovery about myself, I need to use tweezers and a magnifier. My fingers can’t handle small parts and my 1.5x readers do not give me enough detail. Time for the isopropyl alcohol, separated the joint and tried again, better clamp up system. I have been a mechanical engineer for 40 years, time to think things on a small scale. I was still not happy with the transom. But three redo’s and I got it semi right. Then to the ribs, I am like a bull in a China shop, I snap to of the ribs placing them into the building bed. So, now I learned how to use CA for the impossible repairs using PVA. I found out the hard way about nail polish remover and wood stuck to my finger. But finally, the bottom of the boat is glued to the ribs. A very frustrating but rewarding weekend. Could of quick questions. 1. Does leaving the joint soaking in alcohol weaken the wood. 2. How long typically do you let glue cure before working with it. I know it takes about 10 minutes to set, but I have been leaving the joint clamped overnight. Next on deck is fairing the ribs to fit the planks. bruce d 1 Quote Life is to short to be serious all the time. So, if you can't laugh at yourself, your not doing it right. Current Builds 18th Century Armed Longboat Finished Builds Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Lowell Grand Banks Dory Norwegian Sailing Pram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted September 13, 2021 Share #6 Posted September 13, 2021 Well, the first thing is to slow down. Enjoy the process. This is not a race! In answer to your questions: Alcohol will not weaken wood. However, if it is less than 95% alcohol, the water content will soak wood and it will need time to dry out again. PVA (white) glue sets in a few minutes and I'd only leave a joint clamped overnight in exceptional circumstances such as ensuring straightness. The water content in PVA may tend to warp small section wood parts. chris watton and bruce d 2 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlee01 Posted September 13, 2021 Author Share #7 Posted September 13, 2021 I do need to slow down, thanks for reminding me and the answers. I was using 70% rubbing alcohol and saw that the wood needed to dry out. I am starting to understand the difference between building a model than assembling a model. Interesting concept, there is a aspect of art in the building part, seeing how the lines are formed, rather than insert part A into part B. I am now reading and watching videos (all I can find) on fairing before I start that process. chris watton, Ryland Craze and druxey 3 Quote Life is to short to be serious all the time. So, if you can't laugh at yourself, your not doing it right. Current Builds 18th Century Armed Longboat Finished Builds Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Lowell Grand Banks Dory Norwegian Sailing Pram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted September 13, 2021 Share #8 Posted September 13, 2021 I'm glad that you have 'got' the difference! If you get 95% rubbing alcohol there's no need to wait for wood to dry out. If you are using 70%, there's nothing wrong with that except that you need to leave the wood to dry thoroughly before re-gluing the pieces. Ryland Craze 1 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlee01 Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share #9 Posted September 21, 2021 I just finished my first sanding of the hull and thought I would check in. Last I left I was building on the dining room table. Even though I had my pad down I turned quick and glue and water everywhere. After cleaning up I figured I buy a small table and continue in my home office. Back to the build. I am really enjoying this. Druxey you were right slow down and enjoy the project. Taking my time really looking at the lines when planking, cleaning the up right after, makes a nice-looking boat. My problem is I zero in on my mistake. Like the poor glue job where the shear plank meets the transom, which I did not see until I removed the overhang. I decided, instead of removing the shear plank I would place a small shim that I grounded down. I was so proud of myself, until I saw one shear plank was taller then the other at the transom. I will ponder on this one, while I continue to sand. But I do like how it looks. Ryland Craze, JpR62, druxey and 2 others 5 Quote Life is to short to be serious all the time. So, if you can't laugh at yourself, your not doing it right. Current Builds 18th Century Armed Longboat Finished Builds Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Lowell Grand Banks Dory Norwegian Sailing Pram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted September 21, 2021 Share #10 Posted September 21, 2021 I'm sure that you can adjust so that both sides are the same. A little careful sanding on the 'tall' side.... Also, any glue blobs can also be taken care of. Next gluing job, remove squeeze-out with a damp brush before it dries. Much less work! Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlee01 Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share #11 Posted September 21, 2021 So I like to shoot this idea out to correct my sheer plank problem, the one side is little more than a 1/16 lower than the other which causes the bow to look uneven at the top and same with the stern. If I raise the band on low side to match the other and adjust the gunwale and the cap on the low side to match the other, would that work and would it look right. I think in my minds eye it will but I would like to through that out to the ether and see what comes back. Quote Life is to short to be serious all the time. So, if you can't laugh at yourself, your not doing it right. Current Builds 18th Century Armed Longboat Finished Builds Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Lowell Grand Banks Dory Norwegian Sailing Pram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlee01 Posted October 5, 2021 Author Share #12 Posted October 5, 2021 Been awhile, finished sanding and painting, still need to touch up the gunwale where needed to cut it to finish the back to the transom. Next is to stain the thwarts and complete the oars nehemiah, Ryland Craze, Malazan and 4 others 7 Quote Life is to short to be serious all the time. So, if you can't laugh at yourself, your not doing it right. Current Builds 18th Century Armed Longboat Finished Builds Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Lowell Grand Banks Dory Norwegian Sailing Pram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted October 5, 2021 Share #13 Posted October 5, 2021 Nice, I’m about to order one tlee01 1 Quote John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlee01 Posted October 18, 2021 Author Share #14 Posted October 18, 2021 Finished actual construction and I am waiting for some smaller diameter rope, instead of what came with the kit. The rope that was supplied just didn’t seem to sale so some research showed the size of rope should have 1/8" of diameter for every 9' of boat with a minimum size of 3/8". This means a 20' boat should use 3/8" lines. There at a scale of 1:24 the rope should be around .02 inches (5mm). I ordered some from Ropes of Scale. Tracking said its cleared into the USA and should be here soon. I also decided to try my hand at building a lobster trap to go with the dory. I found some sketches on line for dimensions. It’s rough but I still have hopes in finishing it. My excuse in my mind is I want it to have a worn and weathered look so rough is good. I still have a few wood strakes to put across the cage and attach the “netting”. I am spending way too much time in Hobby Lobby or Michael’s. Some of the lessons learned 1. When I think, I am finished sanding I have just begun 2. Slow down, this is not a race, the age-old saying measure twice cut once has taken on a new meaning. Try to look at all angles of the build before I proceed. 3. Read the “instructions” a couple of times, read the build logs and look things up. Don’t guess, have a reason for what I do, prior to doing it. 4. My taping skills need vast improvement I never knew that when I thought I try my hand at this, how fun and sometimes frustrating it is realized how much I have to learn, but I look forward to learning more the next build. I have the Norwegian Sailing Pram ready as soon as I am finished the trap. Justin P., JpR62, BenD and 4 others 7 Quote Life is to short to be serious all the time. So, if you can't laugh at yourself, your not doing it right. Current Builds 18th Century Armed Longboat Finished Builds Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Lowell Grand Banks Dory Norwegian Sailing Pram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin P. Posted October 18, 2021 Share #15 Posted October 18, 2021 Looks like real clean work. That lobster trap is great…. The fun and frustrating bits go hand in hand! Quote Current: US Brig SYREN - Model Shipways - Scale 1:64 Completed: HMS TRITON - Cross Section - Scale 1:48 / Gallery Secret Vessel MOREL - Master Korabel - Scale 1:36 / Gallery 18th Century Armed Longboat - Model Shipways - Scale 1:24 / Gallery HMS BOUNTY Launch - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 / Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted October 18, 2021 Share #16 Posted October 18, 2021 What did you stain the oars and display stand with? I like the looks Quote John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlee01 Posted October 18, 2021 Author Share #17 Posted October 18, 2021 @Malazan Honey oak stain, two light coats on the stand one on the oars followed up with a satin poly wipe on coat Ryland Craze, Malazan and Justin P. 3 Quote Life is to short to be serious all the time. So, if you can't laugh at yourself, your not doing it right. Current Builds 18th Century Armed Longboat Finished Builds Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Lowell Grand Banks Dory Norwegian Sailing Pram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlee01 Posted October 23, 2021 Author Share #18 Posted October 23, 2021 I am going to say I am done with the Dory Finished off the lobster trap and the mooring rope. I tried my hand at weathering the trap, a undercoat of brown and a white wash afterward. I need to work on this. For the entrance to the trap I bent some wire through the netting, then cut the net out in the middle. I wrapped the wire in thread. I made a frame around the entrance and glued the netting in, afterward I glued a frame over the net. I decided to try a rope coil for the bow mooring and see I need to improve my technique. I thinking about making a buoy but I want to get on to the Pram One quick question how do I modify the title to indicate Finished? druxey, JpR62, Ryland Craze and 1 other 4 Quote Life is to short to be serious all the time. So, if you can't laugh at yourself, your not doing it right. Current Builds 18th Century Armed Longboat Finished Builds Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Lowell Grand Banks Dory Norwegian Sailing Pram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted October 23, 2021 Share #19 Posted October 23, 2021 Very nice work! Build log titles can only be edited from post #1. I've got this one covered for you. Cheers! tlee01 1 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted October 23, 2021 Share #20 Posted October 23, 2021 Well done. All you need now is the lobster! tlee01 1 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobandlucy Posted October 24, 2021 Share #21 Posted October 24, 2021 Good work! Nicer than mine, and I admire the lobster trap. You have a talent for this work, and I'm happy you have decided to continue with this series of instructional models. Bob tlee01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobandlucy Posted October 24, 2021 Share #22 Posted October 24, 2021 "I decided to try a rope coil for the bow mooring and see I need to improve my technique." Rope coil is perfect, what are you talking about? Bob tlee01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryland Craze Posted October 25, 2021 Share #23 Posted October 25, 2021 Beautiful model. Congratulations on finishing your Dory. tlee01 1 Quote Ryland Member - Hampton Roads Ship Model Society - Ship Model Society of New Jersey - Nautical Research Guild Current Build - Armed Virginia Sloop, 18th Century Longboat Completed Build - Medway Longboat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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