Bryan Woods Posted October 9, 2023 Share #31 Posted October 9, 2023 I think you’ve done an excellent job, Commodore! The kit designer may have allowed a bit more space for the gains. You did so good you gained timber:-) robert952 and CommodoreErie 2 Quote Current builds: Le Martegaou- 1:80 - Billing Boats Back on the shelf: Gretel - Mamoli Nonsuch 30 - 1:24 - Model Shipway Completed builds: Mini Oseberg no 302 -Billing Boats Sea of Galilee boat Lowell Grand Banks dory, Norwegian sailing pram Muscongus bay lobster smack Peterboro Canoe- Midwest Captain John Smith’s shallop - Pavel Nikitin Chesapeake double kayak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodoreErie Posted October 12, 2023 Author Share #32 Posted October 12, 2023 And the outer hull is finished for the time being. Attached the skeg and the bilge keels. I had a hard time deciding where to place the keels in relation to the skeg, since the instructions left that a little ambiguous (stating just "place as shown"), and after some fiddling around decided on an overlap of 6 scale inches (actual measure 1/2"). Now that this section is done, I'll be building the daggerboard case and installing the frames. Bryan Woods 1 Quote In Shipyard: 1:12 Norwegian Sailing Pram Completed Builds: 1:24 Lowel Grand Banks Dory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorChaos Posted October 12, 2023 Share #33 Posted October 12, 2023 Last post had no pictures for me. Just labels. And I want to see! lol. Bryan Woods 1 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodoreErie Posted October 12, 2023 Author Share #34 Posted October 12, 2023 8 hours ago, MajorChaos said: Last post had no pictures for me. Just labels. And I want to see! lol. Hmm...they're showing up for me fine, not sure why the site is being weird. Here they are again: druxey, Bryan Woods, dvm27 and 5 others 8 Quote In Shipyard: 1:12 Norwegian Sailing Pram Completed Builds: 1:24 Lowel Grand Banks Dory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGibson Posted October 12, 2023 Share #35 Posted October 12, 2023 Looks really sharp, Commodore! Nice hull work! CommodoreErie 1 Quote Gregg Current Projects: Completed Projects: Waiting for Shipyard Clearance: Santa Maria Caravelle 1:48 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 - Model Shipways Yacht America Schooner 1851 1:64 - Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack 1:24 - Model Shipways RMS Titanic 1:300 - OcCre (Couldn't help myself when it was on sale) H.M. Schooner Ballahoo 1:64 - Caldercraft USS Constitution 1:76 - Model Shipways Bluenose 1921 1:64 - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodoreErie Posted October 13, 2023 Author Share #36 Posted October 13, 2023 Constructed the daggerboard trunk and installed it. The slot for it was about a 1/16 of an inch longer than the pegs, so I made the decision to shift it forward in the slot rather than try to finagle it to be in the middle, banking on 1/32" not mattering all that much either direction. I then filled in the 1/16" gap with wood putty. As an aside, wood putty is my best friend in this build. I applied some at the stern transom where the planks were a little gapped away. Next up is ticking the keel where the frames go. I read ahead that the model needs to be 3 3/4" at the widest point, and a scale inch or so more will make trouble with the thwarts. My model is currently 3 5/8" wide, but I'll check again with the frame installed. I don't see it being an issue, since I can make the thwarts smaller, but can't enlarge them. Bryan Woods, WizardOfOs, JacquesCousteau and 2 others 5 Quote In Shipyard: 1:12 Norwegian Sailing Pram Completed Builds: 1:24 Lowel Grand Banks Dory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodoreErie Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share #37 Posted October 15, 2023 Frames installed. The midship frame went on rather smoothly, the forward two less so. Once again, wood putty is my best friend. As an aside, I need to get better at sanding. WizardOfOs, Bryan Woods, JacquesCousteau and 2 others 5 Quote In Shipyard: 1:12 Norwegian Sailing Pram Completed Builds: 1:24 Lowel Grand Banks Dory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodoreErie Posted October 17, 2023 Author Share #38 Posted October 17, 2023 Inwales and stern cleats are installed. The stern cleats gave me a little but of trouble, but nothing too severe. Once I figured out how to clamp them, everything worked out. Bryan Woods, Ryland Craze, GGibson and 3 others 6 Quote In Shipyard: 1:12 Norwegian Sailing Pram Completed Builds: 1:24 Lowel Grand Banks Dory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert952 Posted October 17, 2023 Share #39 Posted October 17, 2023 I thought I had marked to follow this one. I have now. Nice job so far. Looking forward to watching the build. CommodoreErie 1 Quote ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Robert Chenoweth Current Build: Maine Peapod; Midwest Models; 1/14 scale. In the research department: Nothing at this time. Completed models (Links to galleries): Monitor and Merrimack; Metal Earth; 1:370 and 1:390 respectively. (Link to Build Log.) Shrimp Boat; Lindbergh; 1/60 scale (as commission for my brother - a tribute to a friend of his) North Carolina Shad Boat; half hull lift; scratch built. Scale: (I forgot). Done at a class at the NC Maritime Museum. Dinghy; Midwest Models; 1/12 scale (Does LEGO Ship in a Bottle count?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodoreErie Posted October 17, 2023 Author Share #40 Posted October 17, 2023 Before I put the thwart supports in, I wanted to jump ahead slightly and work on transoms, since they've been on my mind a fair bit. The bow transom went as well as I expected (that is to say, quite), but I'm hesitant on the stern. As stated earlier in my log, the planks at the stern rose above the line provided where the stern transom would be shaped by around 1/8". Now, my thought is to raise the line by that much, which if my math is correct would equate to having an extra 1.5" of transom if this were full scale, which on the real thing wouldn't matter too much I don't think, but I'm curious how it would look on the model. In any event, I'd welcome any thoughts on how yinz think this idea will work, if it will affect the rudder or anything like that, etc. before I make any cuts and shaping to the stern. robert952, WizardOfOs, JacquesCousteau and 1 other 4 Quote In Shipyard: 1:12 Norwegian Sailing Pram Completed Builds: 1:24 Lowel Grand Banks Dory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Woods Posted October 17, 2023 Share #41 Posted October 17, 2023 Hey Commodore, I think it will work fine. I’ve had a lot worse issues. Besides, all of us that are keeping up with your build, will be be the only ones that even know:-) robert952, JacquesCousteau and CommodoreErie 3 Quote Current builds: Le Martegaou- 1:80 - Billing Boats Back on the shelf: Gretel - Mamoli Nonsuch 30 - 1:24 - Model Shipway Completed builds: Mini Oseberg no 302 -Billing Boats Sea of Galilee boat Lowell Grand Banks dory, Norwegian sailing pram Muscongus bay lobster smack Peterboro Canoe- Midwest Captain John Smith’s shallop - Pavel Nikitin Chesapeake double kayak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorChaos Posted October 17, 2023 Share #42 Posted October 17, 2023 Shape the rear transom where it looks good and has good lines. Not a soul will know if its off. Yours is looking great! JacquesCousteau, robert952, SiriusVoyager and 2 others 5 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorChaos Posted October 17, 2023 Share #43 Posted October 17, 2023 Here is a good shot of how high the rudder fits, you'll have more trouble building the arm than you will worrying about if it will clear the transom haha. Its very fragile to fabricate. robert952, druxey, JacquesCousteau and 1 other 4 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodoreErie Posted October 20, 2023 Author Share #44 Posted October 20, 2023 Still need to put the soleboard cleats on, but things are coming along. I had a little bit of trouble with over-beveling some of the thwart frames, and again, wood putty is my best friend. If you've been following this build, you'll know I had worries about the transom. For a freehand sketch and a LOT of sanding with dull files, I think I did pretty alright. I might see about adjusting the skeg at some point. It's off just slightly enough to bug me. I know, I know, looks right is right, but I think I can make it look better. druxey, bobandlucy, Bryan Woods and 4 others 7 Quote In Shipyard: 1:12 Norwegian Sailing Pram Completed Builds: 1:24 Lowel Grand Banks Dory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGibson Posted October 20, 2023 Share #45 Posted October 20, 2023 Looking good, Commodore! I was hoping you'd be satisfied with the transom after we all gave you the "it'll be ok" encouragement. In this hobby, like many other things in our lives, we become our own toughest critics and naysayers. Carry on! SiriusVoyager, druxey and robert952 3 Quote Gregg Current Projects: Completed Projects: Waiting for Shipyard Clearance: Santa Maria Caravelle 1:48 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 - Model Shipways Yacht America Schooner 1851 1:64 - Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack 1:24 - Model Shipways RMS Titanic 1:300 - OcCre (Couldn't help myself when it was on sale) H.M. Schooner Ballahoo 1:64 - Caldercraft USS Constitution 1:76 - Model Shipways Bluenose 1921 1:64 - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodoreErie Posted October 22, 2023 Author Share #46 Posted October 22, 2023 Lot of stuff in one here. I got the gudgeon cut and attached, I unglued and reglued the skeg to make it more center, I lowered thwart frames B slightly, and I attached the floorboard cleats. For the measurements for those, I started with two each of 2 7/8", 2 3/4", and 1 7/16" and filed down to size from there. I had hoped to the slots cut for the backstays before I have to set the model down for a bit (long story short, I'll be on the tall ship LYNX for a month and won't be around to work on the pram), but I didn't have the saw blade. I'm hoping I can finish the oarlock pads, and maybe the rub rail. We shall see. JacquesCousteau, MajorChaos, Bryan Woods and 5 others 8 Quote In Shipyard: 1:12 Norwegian Sailing Pram Completed Builds: 1:24 Lowel Grand Banks Dory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodoreErie Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share #47 Posted November 21, 2023 Sorry about the hiatus, I've been on the tall ship LYNX for the past month and just got home yesterday. So, back to work. I got the slots for the stay plates cut, and fit the fore thwart. I like to think I learned a trick or two from the dory build, because I wasn't entirely happy with how those turned out, but I'm MUCH more please with this one. JacquesCousteau, WizardOfOs, robert952 and 3 others 6 Quote In Shipyard: 1:12 Norwegian Sailing Pram Completed Builds: 1:24 Lowel Grand Banks Dory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted November 21, 2023 Share #48 Posted November 21, 2023 Looking good! SiriusVoyager and robert952 2 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodoreErie Posted December 11, 2023 Author Share #49 Posted December 11, 2023 Took a while, but I got the rest of the thwarts fitted. I had to request some replacement parts from Model Expo (the knees were miscut) which took a little time. I also made a cover for the daggerboard case, which turned out rather well. Now that the thwarts are fitted, I can take them off and paint the hull. I'm doing dull red for the interior and warm white for the exterior. I also picked up some metallic brass to paint the bottom of the bilge keels, mimicking weather strips. Ryland Craze, JacquesCousteau, Bryan Woods and 5 others 8 Quote In Shipyard: 1:12 Norwegian Sailing Pram Completed Builds: 1:24 Lowel Grand Banks Dory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodoreErie Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share #50 Posted December 18, 2023 Primer applied and the outside of the hull painted. Interior will be copper red. Bryan Woods, JacquesCousteau, druxey and 4 others 7 Quote In Shipyard: 1:12 Norwegian Sailing Pram Completed Builds: 1:24 Lowel Grand Banks Dory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted December 19, 2023 Share #51 Posted December 19, 2023 Looking very good so far! robert952 1 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiriusVoyager Posted December 19, 2023 Share #52 Posted December 19, 2023 The amount of detail in your beveling and shaping of such small, thin pieces of wood to make everything fit together so perfectly is quite impressive. JacquesCousteau and robert952 2 Quote - Eric Drafting: Sultan Arab Dhow Finished: Norwegian Sailing Pram, Lowell Grand Banks Dory, Muscongus bay lobster smack, OcCre Palamos, San Francisco Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodoreErie Posted April 3 Author Share #53 Posted April 3 (edited) Apologies for the LONG delay in updating, I've been in California for the past two months. I got the interior painted, just need to do some touch ups on the hull. I also used some brass paint on the bottom of the skeg fin and bilge keels to mimic weather strips. Edited April 3 by CommodoreErie druxey, Ryland Craze, GGibson and 3 others 6 Quote In Shipyard: 1:12 Norwegian Sailing Pram Completed Builds: 1:24 Lowel Grand Banks Dory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodoreErie Posted April 7 Author Share #54 Posted April 7 After sole boards and stern sheets installed. If you look closely enough, the sole boards aren't exactly even on the edges, but they pass well enough at first glance. Still, not terrible for shaping these by hand. MajorChaos, JacquesCousteau, robert952 and 2 others 5 Quote In Shipyard: 1:12 Norwegian Sailing Pram Completed Builds: 1:24 Lowel Grand Banks Dory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGibson Posted April 7 Share #55 Posted April 7 The boards look great! Do they have a stain on them now, or what are you planning? Quote Gregg Current Projects: Completed Projects: Waiting for Shipyard Clearance: Santa Maria Caravelle 1:48 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 - Model Shipways Yacht America Schooner 1851 1:64 - Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack 1:24 - Model Shipways RMS Titanic 1:300 - OcCre (Couldn't help myself when it was on sale) H.M. Schooner Ballahoo 1:64 - Caldercraft USS Constitution 1:76 - Model Shipways Bluenose 1921 1:64 - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodoreErie Posted April 7 Author Share #56 Posted April 7 2 minutes ago, GGibson said: The boards look great! Do they have a stain on them now, or what are you planning? I was going to leave them unfinished as is. I kind of like the look of them that way. Obviously if I was going full scale, I'd varnish them or something, but this works for the model. GGibson, Bryan Woods, JacquesCousteau and 1 other 4 Quote In Shipyard: 1:12 Norwegian Sailing Pram Completed Builds: 1:24 Lowel Grand Banks Dory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodoreErie Posted April 14 Author Share #57 Posted April 14 I'm still working on the sole boards, but a miscalculation led to some screw ups, and now I'm waiting on replacement parts. In the meantime, I'm moving onto some brass fittings. Currently I have the anchor point for the forestay attached. Took me four tries because I kept dropping the pipe cutoff and losing it in the carpet, so I'm happy there's so much extra. These pieces are held in place using CA glue as opposed to wood glue. Works pretty well. Semi-related pro tip, if you need to polish brass but don't have the right chemicals for it, toothpaste works in a pinch. druxey, SiriusVoyager, GGibson and 4 others 7 Quote In Shipyard: 1:12 Norwegian Sailing Pram Completed Builds: 1:24 Lowel Grand Banks Dory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodoreErie Posted April 15 Author Share #58 Posted April 15 I ended up changing out the nails that were supplied with the kit, since they're a bit too large (at least to my eye). Fortunately, I had a number of smaller brass nails from a previous failed kit, so I can use those now. They work pretty well. First picture is the backstay plate secured with the supplied nails, second is secured with the replacement pins. These work out great for the oarlock pads too. ccoyle, Ryland Craze, robert952 and 8 others 10 1 Quote In Shipyard: 1:12 Norwegian Sailing Pram Completed Builds: 1:24 Lowel Grand Banks Dory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorChaos Posted April 15 Share #59 Posted April 15 The nails in my kit were big as pencils! Looking good! robert952 and SiriusVoyager 2 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiriusVoyager Posted April 19 Share #60 Posted April 19 Looks amazing! I had the same issue with the nails. I ended up getting some brass sewing pins that worked well. robert952 1 Quote - Eric Drafting: Sultan Arab Dhow Finished: Norwegian Sailing Pram, Lowell Grand Banks Dory, Muscongus bay lobster smack, OcCre Palamos, San Francisco Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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