Scotty W Posted February 3, 2023 #1 Posted February 3, 2023 My name is Scotty and I've started building the Artesania Latina 1805 Virginia Pilot Boat Swift. I purchased this kit for my father to build in 1984. He never tried and is long gone now. During our last move in 2021, I came across the kit which I still had and finally decided to give it a try in May of 2022. Countless hours of research got me past the planking which came out lovely. I got all the deck furniture built and have begun the masts. Spars went well but got to the boom crab-jaw which was a 3mm wide strip of brass that has to be bent around the mast and attached to the sides of the boom. Metal fatigue got to it after bending with needle nose pliers and it broke. I managed to get it installed in two pieces. When bending the first of two double crab-jaws that holds the flag mast to the main mast, I broke another one and doubt I can make it work. Now I must locate 1/8 x 1/64 brass strips and the proper tools to bend the curves and sharp angles without breaking them. That's where I'm stuck and also not sure how to drill tiny holes straight through the tiny round boom through the brass without an expensive mini drill press. Want to get to the scary blocks and rigging but stuck on bending brass strips to shape without breaking. Sigh. Thanks for having me! Knocklouder, Keith Black, JohnLea and 2 others 5 Quote
allanyed Posted February 3, 2023 #2 Posted February 3, 2023 Super warm welcome to MSW. Thank you for sharing your story with us! May I suggest you start a build log for your project text and photos. I would bet you will get more views and invaluable help should you request any. Allan Keith Black and Scotty W 2 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU
ccoyle Posted February 3, 2023 #3 Posted February 3, 2023 Welcome, Scotty, and do please start a build log! Your hull looks great. As for your boom jaws, I wouldn't bother with the brass strip. Jaws were normally built from wood. Have a look around the gallery or do an internet search for boom jaws and you should be able to find some examples. allanyed, Scotty W, Keith Black and 1 other 4 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
mtaylor Posted February 3, 2023 #4 Posted February 3, 2023 Knocklouder, Keith Black and Scotty W 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Knocklouder Posted February 3, 2023 #5 Posted February 3, 2023 Scotty, This is the place to be!!! Keith Black, Scotty W and mtaylor 3 Quote Start so you can Finish !! Finished: The Sea of Galilee Boat-Scott Miller-1:20 , Amati } Hannah Ship in a Bottle:Santa Maria : LA Pinta : La Nana : The Mayflower : Viking Ship Drakkar The King Of the Mississippi Artesania Latina 1:80 Current Build: Royal Yacht, Duchess of Kingston-Vanguard Models
Jim Lad Posted February 3, 2023 #6 Posted February 3, 2023 Hello Scotty, and a warm welcome to MSW from 'Down Under'. John mtaylor, Keith Black and Scotty W 3 Quote
Louie da fly Posted February 4, 2023 #7 Posted February 4, 2023 Hi Scotty and welcome to MSW. That's a very nice start you've made, particularly for a first-timer! Steven Keith Black, mtaylor and Scotty W 3 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht
Dziadeczek Posted February 4, 2023 #8 Posted February 4, 2023 Perhaps you should have preheated your brass strip to make it more pliable. Scotty W, mtaylor and Keith Black 3 Quote
Keith Black Posted February 4, 2023 #9 Posted February 4, 2023 Scotty, welcome to MSW. Glad to have you aboard. Scotty W 1 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration
Scotty W Posted February 4, 2023 Author #10 Posted February 4, 2023 Thank you all and you’re right, it was about 40 degrees F in my garage when I broke that piece. Duh! And I call myself an engineer. Slipping in my old age. I have new brass strips and better tools on the way for bending from MM and will do that work inside out of the cold of the Pacific NW from now on. Just duh, one of many duhs I’ve done and will do before this is done. I started my build log tonight with pics in the section where an 1805 boat would be. Hope to see you there. Thank you all! I’m gonna like it here, I can tell already. Teach me! I’m open to your ideas. mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote
Baker Posted February 4, 2023 #11 Posted February 4, 2023 Nice model And mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum
Scotty W Posted February 4, 2023 Author #12 Posted February 4, 2023 11 hours ago, allanyed said: Super warm welcome to MSW. Thank you for sharing your story with us! May I suggest you start a build log for your project text and photos. I would bet you will get more views and invaluable help should you request any. Allan Build log started in 1805 ships. Thanks for the suggestion. Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote
Louie da fly Posted February 4, 2023 #13 Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Scotty W said: Just duh, one of many duhs I’ve done and will do before this is done. Welcome to ship modelling! There'll be plenty more duhs along the way, but don't let it get you down. Even the best of us (and I certainly don't include myself among them!) still make mistakes. They just make more interesting ones (and perhaps not quite so many as us mere mortals). Oh, yeah 40 degrees F. That's 4 degrees in our money . . . Steven Edited February 4, 2023 by Louie da fly Keith Black, Scotty W and mtaylor 3 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht
Scotty W Posted February 4, 2023 Author #14 Posted February 4, 2023 29 minutes ago, Louie da fly said: Welcome to ship modelling! There'll be plenty more duhs along the way, but don't let it get you down. Even the best of us (and I certainly don't include myself among them!) still make mistakes. They just make more interesting ones (and perhaps not quite so many as us mere mortals). Oh, yeah 40 degrees F. That's 4 degrees in our money . . . Steven Brrrrrrr, c’mon Summer! The short 3 months we have of it here near Seattle, not the capitol of Washington. mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote
Louie da fly Posted February 4, 2023 #15 Posted February 4, 2023 It is summer where I live. Current temperature in Ballarat 15 degrees C (= 59 F). Unfortunately, Ballarat gets cold, even in summer, sometimes. Steven Keith Black 1 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht
New England Captain Posted February 12, 2023 #16 Posted February 12, 2023 Welcome to MSW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keith Black 1 Quote Current Wood Builds HMS Victory Cross Section Future Wood Builds 18th Century Longboat-Model Shipways America Cup Endeavour Kit-Amati 1/50 san Fransisco II Cross Section- Artesania Latina 1910 American Fishing Schooner Elsie-Model Shipways 1/100 Korean Turtle Warship
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