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What kind of wax? There is some discussion on wax here at MSW.  One thread can be found at https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34942-black-rigging-wax/#comment-1027227     According to the American Bee Journal, bees wax has a pH of 7 so is neutral thus a safe choice.  Others have stated that it is below 7 thus acidic.   https://americanbeejournal.com/beeswax/

 

Paraffin is on the alkaline side of neutral with a pH of 9 to 10 so maybe not a great choice. 

 

There are proponents and detractors of using wax.  It will waterproof the rope but if you use poly rope I am not sure there is any benefit.   

 

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The choices

Linen seems to be lost into the past. 

Cotton - limited lifespan - smaller fibers -smaller fuzz

Poly - seems to be winning the race.   As long as the model itself is plastic, any resistance to using man-made materials is moot.

 

Poly already is what a wax would provide.  Wax seems to me to be pointless.  If it is beeswax on it - I would question it ever case hardening to become NOT a dust magnet.

Paraffin  would change its phase with changes in room temp.  The semi liquid phase would also hold dust.

Renaissance wax will case harden as its organic solvent evaporates.   It is probably more positive than negative for linen and cotton.  It would offer no advantage with poly.

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HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error

HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing

HMS Beagle 1831 refiit  10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing

The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842
Flying Fish 1838  pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers
Porpose II  1836  brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
Vincennes  1825  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers assembled, need shaping
Peacock  1828  Sloop-of -War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Sea Gull  1838  pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly
Relief  1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly

Other

Portsmouth  1843  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Le Commerce de Marseilles  1788   118 cannons - POF framed

La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers

 

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seems the new way is polyester according to the experts in here. but the real question is what is your oldest ship rigged with?

 

i have 6 ships from the past 45-50 years on shelves, no case, all rigged with bees wax on cotton or linen that are still holding up very nicely.  they may be a bit brittle but what can you expect from the materials over all those years? 

 

so are there any poly rigged ship about 50 years old to attest to poly longevity?... if not, ill stick to natural fiber n wax.

 

proof is in the puddin.

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 Poly line is now being accepted by some museums. I've had poly line strung for over five years with no issue including stretch. If you're adverse to using poly line, I don't wanna see a drop of CA on your model. :)

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4 hours ago, Lost and Confused said:

Im using Amati rigging line from HIS model. Is that cotton, polyester, or what?

Take a match to it ( not too close ).  If it's poly it will melt, if it's natural fiber it will burn.

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