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Next up is vertical ladders. I need four for this model.

 

ladderkit.jpg.a9d6f0fa81e2bb4fc8b605e36a8a60be.jpgOne of the assembled ladders is shown here. It will go on the aft end of the main deckhouse, on the starboard side, from the main deck to the O1 level. Below it are the pieces of a "kit" for a longer ladder that will go on the port side of the O1 level deckhouse from the O1 level to the O2 level on top of the pilot house.

 

The ladder parts were cut from some 0.030 x 0.015 inch (0.76 x 0.38 mm) brass strip made by Special Shapes Company. They made many different small brass shapes, including "U", "H", "L", solid rectangular and round rods. Unfortunately they are no longer in business and I know of no other company that makes these parts.

 

I bought out the stock years ago from a local hardware store that was run out of business by big box hardware stores. I guess there isn't enough profit for the big store paper shufflers to bother stocking these things.

 

The actual cross section dimensions of the side pieces and rungs of vertical ladders in the US Navy were 1 3/4 x 3/4 inch (44 x 19 mm). That would be 0.036 x 0.016 inches (0.9 x 0.4 mm) at 1:48 scale, so the brass strip is just slightly undersize. All of the ladders on the MSIs had rungs spaced 12 inches (305 mm) vertically.  This was pretty common in the Navy. However, not all vertical ladders (ladder rungs, steps, etc.) were the spaced the same. When I made the CAD model of CLG-5 the blueprints often showed the spacing of the top rung below the upper deck, and the bottom rung above the lower deck. Then the blueprints said to space N number of rungs equally between the top and bottom rungs. This produced spacings from 11 to 15 inches (279 to 381 mm), although about 13 inches (330 mm) was the most common. The rungs were all 12 inches long (305 mm), although the blueprints show ladders were also built with 18 and 24 inch (457 and 610 mm) widths.

 

ladderjig1.jpg.3dfdb0e83048a9e0fbb9820210fdf54b.jpgI made this jig from scrap wood for assembling the vertical ladders. The 0.094 x 0.030 inch (2.4 x 0.76 mm) side basswood strips are spaced precisely at the outer dimension of the ladder sides 0.28 inches (0.25 + 0.015 + 0.015) or 7.1 mm. At the center are two wooden pieces spaced just over 0.015 inch apart, the narrow width of the ladder rungs. As you can see, the ladder rung is placed in this slot. Holes were cut through the base and wooden side strips to allow a soldering iron tip to contact the brass parts.

 

More basswood pieces were glued to the base spaced exactly 0.25 inch (6.35 mm) from the right hand center piece. Really only three of these spacer pieces are needed to assemble a ladder - the center one and one to either side. But the additional pieces serve to hold the assembly in place and show any spacing errors that might creep in. The gap between these spacer pieces and the outer side pieces is the narrow dimension thickness of the brass strips, 0.015 inch. The brass parts fit tightly between the wooden jig parts.

 

Each ladder rung was soldered on both ends to the side pieces. I placed a small drop of liquid flux in each joint and then touched the tinned tip to the joints briefly. I used a metal tool to hold the rung down until the solder hardened - otherwise it would try to lift out as the soldering iron tip was raised.

 

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The photo on the left above shows the correct way to assemble the ladders. First an end rung was soldered between the sides at the proper end position (this varies with each ladder). Then the assembly was lifted and moved so the rung was positioned one step to the right, tightly against the spacer strip. Then the second rung was soldered in place. The assembly was lifted again and moved one place to the right. Another rung was added and so on.

 

It is very important that this sequence is followed to ensure that the spacing of all rungs is equal. Starting at the middle (as shown in the right photo above) or trying to install the end rungs first and fill in the rest later will likely result in uneven spacing.

 

finishedladders.jpg.f6c46d2c3bac53b7843675eeb6b572f4.jpgAfter the ladders were assembled they were cleaned up with files, brushes and sandpaper to remove excess  solder. Then the ladder supports were soldered on. These were made from 0.005 inch (0.13 mm) brass strips cut from a large sheet to a scale 3 inch (0.0625 inch or 1.59 mm) width. The faces of the ladders were spaced 6 inches (152 mm) from the bulkhead surfaces. That is 0.125 inch (3.175 mm) at 1:48 scale. The long legs of the supports are 0.125 inch, and the mounting "feet" were 0.0625 inch.

 

Soldering the tiny pieces in place was a test of my patience. A drop of solder was placed on the mounting surface of the supports. I used a resistance soldering "tweezer" tool to pinch the support to the ladder side and then applied a brief current to melt the solder. This worked most of the time but a few of the pieces moved before the solder hardened and I had to remove them and start over.  But I finally got them all done.

 

 

The parts were washed with acetone to remove the solder flux and then painted with acrylic paint. After they are mounted to the deckhouses they will be painted again to touch up thin spots.

 

Before making the two ladders for the ship's mast I will need to replace the two wooden pieces at the center of the jig where the soldering is done. They became charred after repeated soldering. However, most of the black stuff you see in this area is solder flux residue. I had to clean the residue out a few times to be sure the new rung piece fit properly.

Edited by Dr PR

Phil

 

Current build: USS Cape MSI-2

Previous build: Vanguard Models 18 foot cutter

Previous build: Albatros topsail schooner

Previous build: USS Oklahoma City CLG-5 CAD model

 

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John,

 

Thanks.

 

Here are a few more details.

 

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This is my "jig" for making fire hoses, made from a piece of scrap wood.

 

The brass tube is the same diameter as the hose support in the hose racks.

 

The hoses are strips of cardboard about 0.065 inches  (1.7 mm) wide. The strips were mostly about 7 inches (178 mm) long, although there were a couple of 11 inch (279 mm) pieces. These represented 25 foot (7.6 m) and 50 foot (15.2 m) hoses.

 

The strips were wound back and forth around the tube. Then they were soaked in white school glue on the top part, leaving the lower "coils" free to hang loose. The glue eventually dried colorless.

 

 

 

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I experimented with several types and thicknesses of cardboard.  The larger hoses here are made of 0.024 inch (0.6 mm) thick card. The others were 0.012 inch ((0.3 mm) card.

 

The thicker material is actually closer to the color of the fire hose (as I recall), but it is a bit too thick. The hoses are too large for the hose racks. The more reddish brown 0.012 inch thick card made better size hoses.

 

The white card made nice assemblies, but even new hoses aren't quite that bright!

 

 

 

 

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Here are two hose racks on the aft end of the main deckhouse.  Two hoses were stacked on each hose rack. The hoses on the left are 50 foot 1 1/2 inch (38 mm) hoses, and the larger bundles on the right are 25 foot 2 1/2 inch (64 mm) hoses.

 

The hoses should have brass fittings on the ends but I don't know how I would open up the flattened paper strip to represent the round hose at the fitting. For now I am not going to worry about it.

 

The black dot at upper right is where the fire main comes through the bulkhead for one of the hydrant/strainer assemblies. I had to get the hoses installed before I could add other details to the aft end of the deckhouse.

 

 

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This is another detail for the aft end of the main deckhouse. It is the brow (gangway), and it was attached vertically to the bulkhead on the starboard side, inboard of the vertical ladder shown in an earlier post.

 

The brow was 6 feet (1.8 m) long and 2 feet (0.6 m) wide. When used for access to the ship it had four 3 foot (0.9 m) long stanchions with chains stretched between them on the sides of the brow.

 

The thing below the ruler is a holder for the stanchions. It will mount on the bulkhead beside the brow.

Edited by Dr PR

Phil

 

Current build: USS Cape MSI-2

Previous build: Vanguard Models 18 foot cutter

Previous build: Albatros topsail schooner

Previous build: USS Oklahoma City CLG-5 CAD model

 

Posted

John,

 

It was easy to get the hoses off and on the racks. Because the hose isn't looped around the rack, but is just draped over it, all you needed to do was pull on the hose and it slipped right off the rack without getting tangled. Putting it back on the rack took a bit longer.

 

The "U" shaped bracket that holds the hose below the rack was actually a three piece thing with a hinged bar over the hose and a locking pin on one end. Just pull the pin, swing the bar back out of the way and pull on the hose. The 1:48 scale model bar is 0.030 inch (0/8 mm), but the blueprints call for 0.021 inch (0.05 mm or 1" at 1:1 scale). I wasn't about to try making the hinges and locking pin at that scale.

 

I should say it was usually easy to get the hoses ready for action. But in one firefighting school I had the folks running the class had prepared a damage control locker with a collection of parts where no two pieces would fit together! We had all had other fire fighting schools so on our first drill we went at it with confidence until we couldn't get anything to work. Then frustration turned to laughter when we realized this was a lesson telling us that we needed to be sure all our gear was ready to be used before we really needed it!

Phil

 

Current build: USS Cape MSI-2

Previous build: Vanguard Models 18 foot cutter

Previous build: Albatros topsail schooner

Previous build: USS Oklahoma City CLG-5 CAD model

 

Posted (edited)

More details.

 

washdownnozzles.jpg.d213b57677da8e8b365958b9ebec9743.jpgThese are probably the smallest details on the model. They are water washdown system spray heads. These are like the common indoor fire suppression system nozzles hanging from ceilings. They should have a base plate with four arms curving up to hold a spray deflection cone. But at less than a millimeter (0.039 inch) long and wide that isn't going to get modeled! The pipe was half inch inside diameter, so it was about 3/4 inch (19 mm) outside diameter. I used 0.015 inch (0.4 mm) brass rod for the 1:48 scale pipe. The nozzles are short pieces of 23 gauge hypodermic needle tubing.

 

Navy ships have washdown sprayers all over the topsides. If the ship is attacked with CBR weapons (chemical, biological or radiological) the washdown system is activated to wash contamination overboard. It would also be used if the ship sailed through fallout from nuclear blasts. You may have seen photos of ships steaming through a local cloud of fog -  that would be the washdown spray.

 

I have been installing lots of small details on the deck houses. Lights, ventilation hoods, firefighting equipment and the washdown sprayers.

 

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This is the aft end of the main deckhouse. You can see one of the washdown sprayers at the upper right.

 

The ladder is positioned below where there will be a gap in the life rails around the O1 level.

 

To the left of the ladder is where the brow and it's stanchions are stowed.

 

One of the two topside fire fighting stations is here, with the hydrant/strainer, two 2 1/2 inch (63 mm) hoses, and two 1 1/2 inch (38 mm) hoses.

 

 

 

Extension pipes with "spud" tip sprayers were mounted on the aft port side of the deck house. The spud tips were a brass ovoid with many small holes. Water sprayed out in a fine sheet of low velocity water fog. This was effective for suppressing flames.

 

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Here is the second fire fighting station on the forward side of the main deckhouse. In addition to the hydrant/strainer and two fire hoses, there are two extension pipes with spud tips stowed above.

 

Look closely and you will see another washdown nozzle below the deck beams over the hydrant/strainer.

Edited by Dr PR

Phil

 

Current build: USS Cape MSI-2

Previous build: Vanguard Models 18 foot cutter

Previous build: Albatros topsail schooner

Previous build: USS Oklahoma City CLG-5 CAD model

 

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Nice detailing!

 

 

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Respectfully

 

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Posted

Thanks for the likes and comments.

 

I am deciding what to do next. There are a few small details to add to the front of the main deckhouse, and then what? I want to finish the detailing of the deckhouses before starting on the main deck details. Here are options:

 

1. Bulwark around the open bridge and bridge equipment details. I want to make the bulwarks before I attach the O1 deckhouse to the main deckhouse.

2. Attach O1 level deckhouse to the main deckhouse.

3. Funnel on aft end of O1 level.

4. Life rails around the O1 level. The bulwark must be finished first, and funnel should be in place.

5. Mast.

6. Construct windows and awning supports on the bulwark. The awning supports can't be placed until the deckhouses are joined. These will be very tricky to make, and delicate.

7. Life rails for the O2 level. Also the searchlights, voice tube and other details. These will be delicate and should go on last.

 

Well, now that I have made the list it looks like the sequence should be as they are numbered! Bulwarks next! But I can also be making many of the detail parts (chairs, peloruses, searchlights, antennas, etc.) that will go on as construction progresses. The mast can be built at any time. It could also be the last piece attached to the deckhouses.

Phil

 

Current build: USS Cape MSI-2

Previous build: Vanguard Models 18 foot cutter

Previous build: Albatros topsail schooner

Previous build: USS Oklahoma City CLG-5 CAD model

 

Posted

Indeed, finding the right sequence of placing things on the model can cause a bit of headscratching, demanding foresight exercises, and imagining of possible interferences ... I tend to make the parts separately first and then paint and assemble everything.

 

Nice work so far, as others already said!

wefalck

 

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Posted

True, but the conflicts in this project are really simple compared to trying to figure out the proper belaying arrangement for the full rigging on a sailing ship. That can leave you cross eyed!!

Phil

 

Current build: USS Cape MSI-2

Previous build: Vanguard Models 18 foot cutter

Previous build: Albatros topsail schooner

Previous build: USS Oklahoma City CLG-5 CAD model

 

Posted (edited)

Roel,

 

US Navy ships are a lot like the early Ford Model T cars. Henry Ford said you could have any color you wanted as long as it is black. With Navy ships you get grey, grey or grey. They are not nearly as colorful as your Chaconia!

 

I have started on the bridge bulwarks. This will not be easy!

 

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I mentioned in an earlier post that there were no right angles in the main deckhouse. The sides aren't parallel, some of the decks follow the hull's sheer and have camber. The bridge bulwarks sit on that deckhouse and inherit all if it's oddball angles. But a new set of angles are added for the bulwarks.

 

Notice in the photo of the ship the O1 level bulwarks are angled with respect to the top of the pilot house. The bridge deck is parallel to the water (and the pilot house top) and has no camber or sheer. However the blueprints say the top and bottom of the bridge bulwarks must be parallel to both the sheer and the camber of the main deck. This is very obvious in the photo. This means the distance from the bridge deck to the top of the bulwarks is not constant, but varies from point to point!

 

 

bridgebulwark1.jpg.0420e31805953a46546513d252ed719b.jpgI have modeled the bulwarks in 3D CAD and then printed them in 2D. But these ideal pieces don't fit exactly on the model. My construction of the actual deckhouse had to be repeated several times and the result isn't as precise as the CAD model.

 

Here you can see I am making templates for the sections of the bulwark out of card stock. The green line shows the angle and elevation of the bridge deck. The red lines are parallel to the main deck sheer - looks like I bumped the side piece while setting up for the photos. But you can see how the top and bottom of the bulwark side piece are parallel to the main deck sheer.

 

The aft bottom of the side pieces is at the height of the after part of the O1 level deck (a step below the bridge deck) which has both sheer and camber. Then the pieces angle upward, following the line of the after part of the O1 deck, with the bottom edges converging at the bottom center of the front piece - at least they are supposed to!

 

What is really confounding is that the blueprints do not give any dimensions of the bulwarks except for the height of the front piece at the centerline, 53.7 inches (1.36 m). Measurements on the drawings indicate the forward and aft ends of the side piece are about 57.5 inches (1.46 m) high. How were the boatyard people supposed to build this thing? Basically all the blueprints tell us is "Here's the general idea fellows, have fun building it." But they did, and now I am trying to use card templates held together with painter's tape to figure out how to fit all of these pieces together.

 

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I think this is the third iteration of the card pieces. I get a better fit with each pass - sort of successive approximation. The front center piece is the only part with right angles - it is a true rectangle. The two front side pieces rest on the bridge deck, but are cut to fit down the deckhouse side where the deck overhangs the house sides. These are the really tricky parts. A few more iterations and I should get it right.

 

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Here you can also see the mast step on the O1 level. The mast fits into the square pocket at the bottom. The surrounding angled sides are to guide the foot of the mast into place when I am trying to place it blindly through the hole in the O2 level deck.

Edited by Dr PR

Phil

 

Current build: USS Cape MSI-2

Previous build: Vanguard Models 18 foot cutter

Previous build: Albatros topsail schooner

Previous build: USS Oklahoma City CLG-5 CAD model

 

Posted

Wow Phil!  There is a lot going on there.  The card templates look like they will serve you well.   I am adding that one to the "toolbox in my mind".

 

It is a cluttered toolbox.

Steve

 

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