alross2 Posted May 15 #1 Posted May 15 This is an experiment. I'm developing a new kit that has exposed timberheads and am experimenting with laser-cut timberheads. In theory, the bulwarks and waterways will already be in place. The timberhead strips will be soaked for pliability forward and glued down to the bulwarks and waterways. I can see some potential issues but will find out once I get the bulwarks on the hull. mgatrost, catopower and GrandpaPhil 3
alross2 Posted June 4 Author #2 Posted June 4 Looks like the lasered timberheads will work. In practice, the bulwarks will be built first. The timberhead strip will be soaked and clamped to the inside of the bulwark to preform. Once it's formed and dry, the modeler will have to CAREFULLY sand the bottom of the timberheads with a sanding block to form a slight angle along the section of the bulwark that flares a bit outboard. This photo was of the initial fitting and the timberhead bottoms were not sanded. I was primarily seeing if the strip would survive the bending and gluing. I had to make some height adjustments to the strip and am currently soaking one to fit to another test hull. Yuh, I go through a lot of laser...😱 Canute, mgatrost, Paul Le Wol and 3 others 6
ccoyle Posted June 4 #3 Posted June 4 That is a lot of exposed timberheads! Have you hinted anywhere previously as to the identity of this new project? Paul Le Wol and Canute 2 Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Mitsubishi A6M5a,
alross2 Posted June 4 Author #4 Posted June 4 Well, for now we'll just describe it as a "West Coast lumber schooner"...😎 Canute, ccoyle, catopower and 1 other 3 1
ccoyle Posted June 4 #5 Posted June 4 Oh, please please please say CA Thayer!! Canute and mgatrost 2 Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Mitsubishi A6M5a,
alross2 Posted June 5 Author #6 Posted June 5 15 hours ago, ccoyle said: Oh, please please please say CA Thayer!! Chris, a skilled modeler such as yourself will be able to replicate the THAYER from this kit...😎 These are the revised timberheads on a new hull. They are clamped and drying out after soaking. I revised the planking sequence so that the top plank of the bulwarks is just a bit above the timberheads. The top plank will then be trimmed to the top of the timberheads establishing the correct sheer. catopower, mgatrost, Ryland Craze and 4 others 7
ccoyle Posted June 5 #7 Posted June 5 4 minutes ago, alross2 said: Chris, a skilled modeler such as yourself will be able to replicate the THAYER from this kit...😎 Any West Coast lumber schooner would be cool -- especially if it came from the Bendixsen yard. mgatrost, Nirvana and Canute 3 Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Mitsubishi A6M5a,
alross2 Posted June 5 Author #8 Posted June 5 The kit will include a jig to support the bulwarks while they are being built. The three holes in the jig match the spacing of the mast holes in the deck and the jig is held in place with 1/4" dowels, making removal easy when bulwark construction is completed mgatrost, Canute, Ryland Craze and 5 others 8
chris watton Posted June 5 #9 Posted June 5 I like pre cut timberheads for kits - the alternative is a very tedious job for the kit purchaser.... Nirvana, alross2, Canute and 2 others 5 Vanguard Models on Facebook
ccoyle Posted June 5 #10 Posted June 5 3 hours ago, alross2 said: The kit will include a jig to support the bulwarks while they are being built. Al, would you mind if I re-titled this topic to make it more apparent that it's a kit development thread? Canute, Nirvana and Ryland Craze 3 Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Mitsubishi A6M5a,
alross2 Posted June 5 Author #11 Posted June 5 (edited) Whatever you consider appropriate. Edited June 5 by alross2 Initially not well worded. ccoyle and Canute 2
catopower Posted June 5 #12 Posted June 5 Hi Al, I like the bulwarks planking jig. I've done something similar myself. On the timber head strips, are they plywood? I can imagine myself breaking off timber heads, trying to sand the bottom edge if they're not. Nirvana and Canute 2 Clare Hess He's a -> "HE" Current Builds: Yacht Mary, 1660 - An Inherited Build HMS Wolf, 1754 - Shipyard Laser Cut Kit Kitamaebune - 18th/19th Century Japanese Coastal Trade Ship Atakebune - Japanese Sengoku Period Warship
alross2 Posted June 5 Author #13 Posted June 5 3 minutes ago, catopower said: Hi Al, I like the bulwarks planking jig. I've done something similar myself. On the timber head strips, are they plywood? I can imagine myself breaking off timber heads, trying to sand the bottom edge if they're not. Right now, they are 1/8" basswood. I've installed both sides now and haven't experienced any splitting while sanding the bottoms of the timberheads. catopower, ccoyle, Nirvana and 1 other 4
ccoyle Posted June 5 #14 Posted June 5 1 hour ago, alross2 said: Whatever you consider appropriate. Done! I'd like to see this thread gain some traction. Canute, Ryland Craze, Nirvana and 1 other 4 Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Mitsubishi A6M5a,
alross2 Posted June 6 Author #15 Posted June 6 Timberheads are now installed on both sides and the bulwarks trimmed down to their tops. Worked out fine, no breakage when sanding the bottom of the timberheads prior to installation. Nirvana, Ryland Craze, Canute and 3 others 6
ccoyle Posted June 6 #16 Posted June 6 We can see now that this will be a POB design. Ryland Craze, Canute, catopower and 1 other 4 Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Mitsubishi A6M5a,
alross2 Posted June 6 Author #17 Posted June 6 Since Chris wanted to expand the scope of this thread, here's some basic info. Scale is 1/96, construction is plank on bulkhead. Construction is essentially the same as ALABAMA, KEARSARGE, NOTMAN, and WYOMING - poplar ply bulkheads on a central profile although this time the bulkheads are one-piece. Canute, Nirvana, chris watton and 7 others 10
alross2 Posted Tuesday at 05:47 PM Author #18 Posted Tuesday at 05:47 PM I'm getting too soft in my old age... These are the chock rails and cap rails for the aft section. There are about 24 cast stanchions, each of which has a pin on both ends. Rather than make the modeler measure and drill the holes for the stanchions, I've laser cut them in. The chock rail is 1/8" bass while the cap rail is .035" laserboard, the latter being far more robust than the original 1/32" basswood ones. GrandpaPhil, ccoyle, Paul Le Wol and 1 other 4
alross2 Posted 18 hours ago Author #19 Posted 18 hours ago Hull is now in primer so I can see all the "goobers" and take care of them. At the moment, I'm fitting out the main deck level of the forecastle as I won't be able to access that area once the raised forecastle deck is fitted. Ryland Craze, Nirvana, ccoyle and 6 others 9
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