olliechristo Posted May 30, 2014 Author Share #691 Posted May 30, 2014 ... Aussie048, dgbot, ringbolt2013 and 1 other 4 Quote Current and 1st build - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3958-hm-colonial-cutter-mermaid-by-ollie-modellers-shipyard/page-47 Second Build -http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6815-hmb-endeavour-by-oliver-al-kit-160-kit-bashrehash-second-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted May 30, 2014 Share #692 Posted May 30, 2014 Ollie, The painting certainly shows just a single topmast shroud, but two were more common, so I think the kit manufacturer has just gone with the norm instead of doing a little basic research. The shrouds don't look too bad for height, but would either have been attached to a mast band or simply spliced over a step in the mast. Do you think it would be possible to fake a band out of paper around the eyes? If not - no big deal. John ringbolt2013 and egkb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliechristo Posted May 31, 2014 Author Share #693 Posted May 31, 2014 Yes I could do that I think John. So like the bands already on mast but not as wide i presume.. I can already envisage that is going to look much better.. Regards Ollie egkb and ringbolt2013 2 Quote Current and 1st build - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3958-hm-colonial-cutter-mermaid-by-ollie-modellers-shipyard/page-47 Second Build -http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6815-hmb-endeavour-by-oliver-al-kit-160-kit-bashrehash-second-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliluke Posted May 31, 2014 Share #694 Posted May 31, 2014 I see John's point about a band around the mast but heck...your rigging work is superb in every way and such details, while they might add to things, are just gilding the lily. ringbolt2013, KenW and olliechristo 3 Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted May 31, 2014 Share #695 Posted May 31, 2014 Yes, Ollie - just a narrow band. John ringbolt2013 and olliechristo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringbolt2013 Posted May 31, 2014 Share #696 Posted May 31, 2014 (edited) Yes Ollie....just a narrow band!! Tom Sorry ... Just had to stick my oar in! Edited May 31, 2014 by ringbolt2013 olliechristo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliechristo Posted May 31, 2014 Author Share #697 Posted May 31, 2014 (edited) Okay, band added, I think it looks good, gives a sense of strength. As narrow as i could without being impossible... Onwards with other little corrections. redoing anchor tackles.. want steel bands around blocks and rigged a bit higher and smaller eyebolts on catheads.. it was my first rigging so it was bound to look shabby as i progressed... Hope your all having a splendid weekend. Ollie.. Edited May 31, 2014 by olliechristo egkb, dgbot, aliluke and 3 others 6 Quote Current and 1st build - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3958-hm-colonial-cutter-mermaid-by-ollie-modellers-shipyard/page-47 Second Build -http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6815-hmb-endeavour-by-oliver-al-kit-160-kit-bashrehash-second-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringbolt2013 Posted May 31, 2014 Share #698 Posted May 31, 2014 Doing great Ollie ... Really!! Tom olliechristo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egkb Posted May 31, 2014 Share #699 Posted May 31, 2014 Have a great Week-End also Ollie (Tis a Bank Holliday W/End here.. Woo Hoo) Stay Well Eamonn olliechristo and ringbolt2013 2 Quote Current Build : HM Schooner Ballahoo In the Pipeline : HM Cutter Sherbourne, HM Mortar Convulsion, Emma C Berry & C18th English Longboat.. Eventually That Is..🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygothian Posted June 1, 2014 Share #700 Posted June 1, 2014 Amazing work Ollie. I've been away for a few months, and remember you starting this build. The level of detail and your ingenuity was extremely impressive. I see you have continued on your meticulous build. I am still finding the time to start my first build, despite still ordering more kits! 2 toddlers, a puppy great dane, moving house, working full time, and a wife who just had surgery doesn't leave me much time. ringbolt2013 and olliechristo 2 Quote Current Build - US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64 - 1st wood build Armed Virginia Sloop with complimentary 8x paint MS paint set - Model Shipways - Ordered 31st October 2013 Victory Cross Section - Corel - Ordered 15th October Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted June 2, 2014 Share #701 Posted June 2, 2014 That band is a great improvement, Ollie! John olliechristo and ringbolt2013 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliechristo Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share #702 Posted June 2, 2014 Thanks Tom, Eamm and Brian... Pygothian! Thought we had lost you. i'm glad you havnt lost the passion... Cheers mate.... John, im glad you suggested that .. Just have to figure out those grommets now.. think i will try splic a tiny eye bolt into top mast shroud.. Ok so i have been working away at bowsprit traveller which is now done.. added iron spectacle. I have fitted first yard.... do you guys think she is slung at an appropriate height? Next onto bowsprit guys and yard lifts, braces and halliards... Few pics to show you whats happening, really not far to go now!!! Ollie Aussie048, aliluke, KenW and 3 others 6 Quote Current and 1st build - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3958-hm-colonial-cutter-mermaid-by-ollie-modellers-shipyard/page-47 Second Build -http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6815-hmb-endeavour-by-oliver-al-kit-160-kit-bashrehash-second-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliechristo Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share #703 Posted June 2, 2014 Hers what the bowsrpit traveller ring that was supplied started out like, a fraction loose i think.. dgbot, KenW and ringbolt2013 3 Quote Current and 1st build - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3958-hm-colonial-cutter-mermaid-by-ollie-modellers-shipyard/page-47 Second Build -http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6815-hmb-endeavour-by-oliver-al-kit-160-kit-bashrehash-second-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egkb Posted June 2, 2014 Share #704 Posted June 2, 2014 Just a bit... yours is perfect E ringbolt2013 and olliechristo 2 Quote Current Build : HM Schooner Ballahoo In the Pipeline : HM Cutter Sherbourne, HM Mortar Convulsion, Emma C Berry & C18th English Longboat.. Eventually That Is..🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egkb Posted June 2, 2014 Share #705 Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) I've just reread my own comment Ollie.. 'Yours is Perfect' .. would appear that English me is not good the moment at ! .. E Dang!! Now I've just read it again and it sounds perfect.. Monday Morning's eh ? can't win ! Edited June 2, 2014 by egkb olliechristo and ringbolt2013 2 Quote Current Build : HM Schooner Ballahoo In the Pipeline : HM Cutter Sherbourne, HM Mortar Convulsion, Emma C Berry & C18th English Longboat.. Eventually That Is..🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliluke Posted June 2, 2014 Share #706 Posted June 2, 2014 Sharp as a tack Oliie. This has/is really turning into a wonderful model. Your first and second photos really capture that (not that your other pics don't). Great stuff. ringbolt2013, dgbot and olliechristo 3 Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringbolt2013 Posted June 2, 2014 Share #707 Posted June 2, 2014 Yours is very much as is supposed to be ... Just the right amount of space between the wood and ring! Once again spot on! Tom olliechristo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted June 3, 2014 Share #708 Posted June 3, 2014 That lower yard looks fine, Ollie - as does your traveller! To make the grommets, you could try simply splicing a small loop of thread into the shroud, rather than making an actual grommet. John olliechristo and ringbolt2013 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliechristo Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share #709 Posted June 3, 2014 Great thanks as always gang.. With some observation of historical pics, i came up with questions regarding the top yard.. John and myself decided via msg, the top yard was rigged "flying" Which means no foot-ropes and no lashing to mast. So I changed it up and have it rigged.. It was also decided that the Yard braces would pull fore and pull yard away from mast which is ok, but looks funny on a model, so I glued it and went a step further and put a brass pin through to hold it with some security.. The halliard is on but not reeved up yet.... ringbolt2013, egkb and KenW 3 Quote Current and 1st build - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3958-hm-colonial-cutter-mermaid-by-ollie-modellers-shipyard/page-47 Second Build -http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6815-hmb-endeavour-by-oliver-al-kit-160-kit-bashrehash-second-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliechristo Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share #710 Posted June 3, 2014 ther has also been small touches going on at the moment, like the ropes to open and close canon port lids.. A very small cleat was added inside bulwark.. dgbot, KenW and ringbolt2013 3 Quote Current and 1st build - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3958-hm-colonial-cutter-mermaid-by-ollie-modellers-shipyard/page-47 Second Build -http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6815-hmb-endeavour-by-oliver-al-kit-160-kit-bashrehash-second-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliechristo Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share #711 Posted June 3, 2014 Looking at the plans for main yard backstays and i see a clash... It appears the stays interfere with culverins.. Surely this is not right..? Warm regards and thanks again all.. Ollie dgbot and egkb 2 Quote Current and 1st build - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3958-hm-colonial-cutter-mermaid-by-ollie-modellers-shipyard/page-47 Second Build -http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6815-hmb-endeavour-by-oliver-al-kit-160-kit-bashrehash-second-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliechristo Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share #712 Posted June 3, 2014 this pic might show better what im concerned with, not great lighting... Also. Notice the board i have the ship on.. I cant believe i dint rig this up sooner.. I can spin her around and pick her up so much easier now.. Over and out,, Ollie ringbolt2013 and egkb 2 Quote Current and 1st build - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3958-hm-colonial-cutter-mermaid-by-ollie-modellers-shipyard/page-47 Second Build -http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6815-hmb-endeavour-by-oliver-al-kit-160-kit-bashrehash-second-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringbolt2013 Posted June 3, 2014 Share #713 Posted June 3, 2014 I think you are right Ollie ...I need to do some research on this too! olliechristo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auvergne Posted June 5, 2014 Share #714 Posted June 5, 2014 Ollie, Your work is so clean!! Time is of the essence, eh, I need to slow her down and quit putting in long days on the Xebec..Nicely crafted Ollie. ringbolt2013 and olliechristo 2 Quote Creativity Heart & Soul! Happy Model Ship Building Friends! John E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted June 5, 2014 Share #715 Posted June 5, 2014 Ollie, Sorry I missed your earlier post regarding the braces. Yes, they would certainly lead as far aft as possible. I doubt that a cutter like this would mount swivels on the rail - very unusual. Do any of the contemporary paintings show them? John ringbolt2013 and olliechristo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliechristo Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share #716 Posted June 5, 2014 (edited) Thanks guys.. John, I hadn't deviated from the kit much back at the rail stage.. I suppose they are not shown anywhere. I wonder how much detail is left off because it's a painting.. Sketch doesn't show these kinds of details either.. Which does make me wonder how the kit designer came up with it.. So the holes are drilled and don't really want to patch them.. pic shows acceptable angle I think without intruding on culverins.. Hmm decisions.. More posts on their way... Edited June 5, 2014 by olliechristo egkb, Aussie048 and ringbolt2013 3 Quote Current and 1st build - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3958-hm-colonial-cutter-mermaid-by-ollie-modellers-shipyard/page-47 Second Build -http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6815-hmb-endeavour-by-oliver-al-kit-160-kit-bashrehash-second-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliechristo Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share #717 Posted June 5, 2014 Ok some pictures.. I have finished backstays now the missing part arrived a few days ago and had it prepared.... And of course....... I did a clean up and the part turned up, i knew that was on the cards!!!! Any way, top sail halliard fitted also, preparing parts for bowsprit guys... ringbolt2013, Aussie048, egkb and 3 others 6 Quote Current and 1st build - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3958-hm-colonial-cutter-mermaid-by-ollie-modellers-shipyard/page-47 Second Build -http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6815-hmb-endeavour-by-oliver-al-kit-160-kit-bashrehash-second-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliechristo Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share #718 Posted June 5, 2014 some more rigging done ringbolt2013, Aussie048, MarisStella.hr and 3 others 6 Quote Current and 1st build - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3958-hm-colonial-cutter-mermaid-by-ollie-modellers-shipyard/page-47 Second Build -http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6815-hmb-endeavour-by-oliver-al-kit-160-kit-bashrehash-second-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliechristo Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share #719 Posted June 5, 2014 ... MarisStella.hr, BANYAN, ringbolt2013 and 6 others 9 Quote Current and 1st build - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3958-hm-colonial-cutter-mermaid-by-ollie-modellers-shipyard/page-47 Second Build -http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6815-hmb-endeavour-by-oliver-al-kit-160-kit-bashrehash-second-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringbolt2013 Posted June 5, 2014 Share #720 Posted June 5, 2014 Ollie ... The old paintings are surprisingly accurate except for minor rigging details. Swivels were usually movable all along the rail so...move em' And you can leave the mounting holes there with out filling them..."realistic use" type of thing....you could probably add some holes in other reasonable places for that purpose. She's looking good there Ollie, keep it up! Tom olliechristo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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