ringbolt2013 Posted April 25, 2014 Share #571 Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) Just gotta love those primary sources! They answer a lot of questions but they leave out so much "common Knowledge" of the times. Makes for serious research!! Don't you agree?? The boat is a real work of art Ollie, Nicely done!!! Tom Edited April 25, 2014 by ringbolt2013 olliechristo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringbolt2013 Posted April 25, 2014 Share #572 Posted April 25, 2014 Since It will not let me add, I must post again 6 oars would be better.. the aft oarlocks are probably not used too much. Nice oars by the way!! Tom olliechristo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted April 25, 2014 Share #573 Posted April 25, 2014 I agree with Tom - six oars would be better - and stow them with the blades facing forward as with your test oar in the photo. John ringbolt2013 and olliechristo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliechristo Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share #574 Posted April 25, 2014 Yes tom research is key I'm learning.. Without internet I'm realising how great a tool it is... I do need to purchase some books though.. Bit slack on that... Excellent! They don't take long to make.. So will knock up two more... I realise they need to be lashed together. also wondering if they are lashed to seats also? To stop them being loose items.. You guys are such help.. Thanks :-) Bindy, Aussie048 and ringbolt2013 3 Quote Current and 1st build - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3958-hm-colonial-cutter-mermaid-by-ollie-modellers-shipyard/page-47 Second Build -http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6815-hmb-endeavour-by-oliver-al-kit-160-kit-bashrehash-second-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted April 25, 2014 Share #575 Posted April 25, 2014 Yep, lash 'em down, Ollie. John ringbolt2013 and olliechristo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted April 25, 2014 Share #576 Posted April 25, 2014 I go with the majority 6 if you can fit 8 so be it. Fantastic work and great attention to detail. David B ringbolt2013 and olliechristo 2 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringbolt2013 Posted April 26, 2014 Share #577 Posted April 26, 2014 Yup EVERYTHING was tied down!! After the storm you should understand why!! HE, HE! Tom olliechristo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliechristo Posted April 27, 2014 Author Share #578 Posted April 27, 2014 Hi all hope you all had a good weekend and managed to get some hobby time in..I got my oars done and.lashed down.. Shrouds are on their way.. Regards Oliver Bindy, WackoWolf, ringbolt2013 and 3 others 6 Quote Current and 1st build - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3958-hm-colonial-cutter-mermaid-by-ollie-modellers-shipyard/page-47 Second Build -http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6815-hmb-endeavour-by-oliver-al-kit-160-kit-bashrehash-second-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egkb Posted April 27, 2014 Share #579 Posted April 27, 2014 Hi Ollie, sorry for not looking in over the last few days, just that your Cutter had slipped off the page (over to page 2) and I hadn't noticed ! So you are gonna put the wee boat on the Stern Davits then, I thought she looked the Business on deck but I guess that's wot the Davits were there for All The Best Ollie Eamonn Have to say it again.. Snazzy Wee Boat you have there. olliechristo and ringbolt2013 2 Quote Current Build : HM Schooner Ballahoo In the Pipeline : HM Cutter Sherbourne, HM Mortar Convulsion, Emma C Berry & C18th English Longboat.. Eventually That Is..🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliechristo Posted April 27, 2014 Author Share #580 Posted April 27, 2014 Thanks so much buddy. I'm torn between davits and deck placement.. Im figuring it will display better on stern. Maybe get a bit lost amongst rigging.. Ahh the decisions.. I've thought about having her on deck and putting both canons on the show side, but not sure if that's a good idea in the real world of ships... Regards ollie ringbolt2013 and egkb 2 Quote Current and 1st build - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3958-hm-colonial-cutter-mermaid-by-ollie-modellers-shipyard/page-47 Second Build -http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6815-hmb-endeavour-by-oliver-al-kit-160-kit-bashrehash-second-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliluke Posted April 27, 2014 Share #581 Posted April 27, 2014 Stern davits gets my vote. Clean deck, cannons, a nice detail on the davits and probably correct (although I haven't the faintest idea). Go with your eye... for your decision, my eye heads aft. olliechristo and ringbolt2013 2 Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringbolt2013 Posted April 27, 2014 Share #582 Posted April 27, 2014 FYI If you go for the davits don't forget to lash that baby down!! Hanging from the blocks alone is a no no! Usually crossed ropes w/wolding to protect the boat from movement and chaffeing.....check it out in practical seamanship books! Deck would be the same Tom olliechristo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted April 27, 2014 Share #583 Posted April 27, 2014 Nicely done, Ollie. A good finishing detail might be a painter spliced to that ringbolt forward and coiled down in the bottom of the boat. John olliechristo and ringbolt2013 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bindy Posted April 27, 2014 Share #584 Posted April 27, 2014 I have no idea at all what is right and wrong about where and how to stow the boat, but I am absolutely positive it looks fantastic! olliechristo and ringbolt2013 2 Quote Completed Build: Bregante Il Leudo Merchant Launch - Mamoli - 1:72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliechristo Posted April 29, 2014 Author Share #585 Posted April 29, 2014 (edited) Thanks John,Tom, Alistair and Bindy :-) So.. I have finished my first scratch build ;-) I have added a painter and my first coiled rope. everything you see is hand crafted including the eye bolts which are my smallest yet, the thread had trouble going through. :-) they are tricky to get right though. Need some very pointy round pliers me thinks. All the bits are there to rig her on the davits but think I will get more done on the rigging before mounting. Regards Oliver Edited April 29, 2014 by olliechristo aliluke, dgbot, egkb and 2 others 5 Quote Current and 1st build - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3958-hm-colonial-cutter-mermaid-by-ollie-modellers-shipyard/page-47 Second Build -http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6815-hmb-endeavour-by-oliver-al-kit-160-kit-bashrehash-second-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted April 29, 2014 Share #586 Posted April 29, 2014 Terrific job on an interesting vessel. David b olliechristo and ringbolt2013 2 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted April 29, 2014 Share #587 Posted April 29, 2014 Well done, Ollie! John ringbolt2013 and olliechristo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringbolt2013 Posted April 29, 2014 Share #588 Posted April 29, 2014 SWEEEEET!! Tom olliechristo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliechristo Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share #589 Posted April 30, 2014 You lot are too kind! I have her mounted but can easily take.her off if annoying me.. Oliver Gregor, egkb, Aussie048 and 1 other 4 Quote Current and 1st build - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3958-hm-colonial-cutter-mermaid-by-ollie-modellers-shipyard/page-47 Second Build -http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6815-hmb-endeavour-by-oliver-al-kit-160-kit-bashrehash-second-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliechristo Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share #590 Posted April 30, 2014 I have also fitted my lower deadeye straps. Just need to get my canons rigged properly, and I can move on with shrouds.. :-) you can see the spacing jig I have made.. Ollie Aussie048, Mirabell61, ringbolt2013 and 2 others 5 Quote Current and 1st build - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3958-hm-colonial-cutter-mermaid-by-ollie-modellers-shipyard/page-47 Second Build -http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6815-hmb-endeavour-by-oliver-al-kit-160-kit-bashrehash-second-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliechristo Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share #591 Posted April 30, 2014 The strap angles were located by running cord from mast through channels.. Ollie Donny, egkb, dgbot and 3 others 6 Quote Current and 1st build - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3958-hm-colonial-cutter-mermaid-by-ollie-modellers-shipyard/page-47 Second Build -http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6815-hmb-endeavour-by-oliver-al-kit-160-kit-bashrehash-second-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted April 30, 2014 Share #592 Posted April 30, 2014 She's coming on very nicely Ollie, some great detail appearing - now onto that wonderful task (chore?) of rigging You may wish to hire some of Danny's (Dan Vad - HMS Vulture Scratch Build) trained rigging spiders cheers Pat ringbolt2013, Bindy, olliechristo and 1 other 4 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringbolt2013 Posted April 30, 2014 Share #593 Posted April 30, 2014 I love rigging it really separates the men from the boys. It shows the effort one wants to put into the ship. I've seen "outstanding" and some "not even a good try" rigging, I especially like the "I really tried" type the best! And believe me it shows! So I am expecting to see some good things from you!! GOOD LUCK!! Tom olliechristo and egkb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted May 1, 2014 Share #594 Posted May 1, 2014 She's coming along nicely, Ollie. Just a totally trivial point - did you know that for some totally unknown reason most boats stowed on stern davits are stowed with their bow to starboard? It's not a rule and it's not invariable practice, but it just seems that most boats are stowed that way! Re your deadeye spacer;- that's the type used by Harold Underhill, but I've found that a 'single hole' type spacer is a pest as the deadeyes keep trying to turn around the spacer while you're working on them. Try a 'two hole' type for comparison. Get a small scrap of wood and, using a deadeye as a jig, drill two small holes spaced so that they line up with the two parallel holes on the deadeye at each end, spaced so that the deadeyes will be the correct distance apart. glue short pieces of wire into the holes and the spacer can then work by holding two holes on each deadeye, preventing them from turning when you put tension on the shroud. John olliechristo and ringbolt2013 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliluke Posted May 1, 2014 Share #595 Posted May 1, 2014 Looking brilliant Ollie. I can't decide which side of the hull I prefer - they both look so good. The rigging of the boat off the stern davits looks spot on. A great model in every respect! Bindy, ringbolt2013 and olliechristo 3 Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted May 1, 2014 Share #596 Posted May 1, 2014 You are doing a great job Ollie. David B ringbolt2013 and olliechristo 2 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted May 1, 2014 Share #597 Posted May 1, 2014 Just catching up on your log - fantastic work Ollie. Though not expecting to achieve quite the same level of skill as you are working at, you've prompted me to consider resurrecting my own stalled Mermaid build. Thanks for taking us on this awesome journey with you. Cheers Leanne ringbolt2013 and olliechristo 2 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Mermaid 1817Next build: US Brig Syren...maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliechristo Posted May 8, 2014 Author Share #598 Posted May 8, 2014 Thanks each and every one of you . Yes it's a bit of a chore Banyan.. I.need those spiders.:-) I've been catching up on some other pastimes with some lovely winter sunshine.. Climbed some mountains, kayak down a stunning river. Beach and creeks.. John, thanks mate, I made up the spacing jig like you suggested because that really made a lot of sense to me... All my pictures show row boat as I have done. Interesting.. Alistair I can't decide either.. Think that the timber side just wins.. :-) Leanne, I really hope you get her back in action! I should be able to help with some issues if they arise with the building... Looking forward to it.. So I have procrastinated a lot with my canons rigging. The dinghy was a escape I think.. Okay whipped myself into action today and not far off having them done... Just have to decide how to tie them off and if I will do coiled ropes.. Much thanks. Oliver Aussie048, MarisStella.hr, ringbolt2013 and 6 others 9 Quote Current and 1st build - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3958-hm-colonial-cutter-mermaid-by-ollie-modellers-shipyard/page-47 Second Build -http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6815-hmb-endeavour-by-oliver-al-kit-160-kit-bashrehash-second-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bindy Posted May 9, 2014 Share #599 Posted May 9, 2014 Your other pastimes sound wonderful but I am glad you still got to your canon rigging as it looks just as good as the rest of your build! olliechristo 1 Quote Completed Build: Bregante Il Leudo Merchant Launch - Mamoli - 1:72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted May 9, 2014 Share #600 Posted May 9, 2014 You kayak down a beach? The gun tackles look like they're spread a bit far apart, mate. Attached to the bulwark a little closer to the sides of the guns would look better, if it can be done. John olliechristo and ringbolt2013 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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